CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #12

[SCHMAE]

Somebody help me please. I was looking at 3 other cases last night. I cannot remember
the kids' names but I wanted to see updates this morning. When you go to home page, it just lists about 20 cases ... I don't know how to see what I saw last night, if that makes sense. Ugh... I'm unskilled at navigating a very busy site like this. Any ideas?

 

[Bravo]

Somebody help me please. I was looking at 3 other cases last night. I cannot remember
the kids' names but I wanted to see updates this morning. When you go to home page, it just lists about 20 cases ... I don't know how to see what I saw last night, if that makes sense. Ugh... I'm unskilled at navigating a very busy site like this. Any ideas?

Can you give some info about the cases. It might jog someone's memory.

 

[SCHMAE]

Can you give some info about the cases. It might jog someone's memory.

Well I did find one. The girl hiking with her family and wandered off.
She has been found safe. The other was a girl who was last
seen at school and they thought she was with an aunt en route
to her ' non custodial' mother in another city or state. The third
was an older girl who had taken off before , so might have
run away. tks !

The problem is there is a staggering number of missing people daily
It's amazing how fast the site can move things to the bottom because
newer cases are coming up every second. How sad

 

[YidArmyRach]

Another link that mentions blankets:

The next morning, Dylan was sleeping on the couch where Mark Redwine now sits and where Dylan's blankets still lie jumbled. Mark said he waited until 7:30 a.m. but still couldn't rouse his son, so he told him he would return about 11. When he got back at 11:30, his son's dirty cereal bowl was beside the sink. The television was on Nickelodeon. His son's fishing pole was gone. So was his black-and-gray backpack. A few articles of clothing were left behind on the couch.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder

So, surely there would be enough there for forensics to confirm they were recently worn/used by Dylan (along with fingerprints at the house) - so that should stop all the suggestions that something happened on the way from the airport and Dylan never even made it to Dad's house.

If LE knows from forensics that Dylan did indeed enter the house - surely they would be better saying so - to stop all the rumour and insinuation that MR did something to him on the drive home. But that doesn't match with the searches they are supposedly carrying out on the route home.

This case is so confusing - esp when next to no details whatsoever have been released.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Noboby here is outright accusing Dad of anything. We are simply following the path as the chips fall. Even though I'm leaning that way I am certainly open to other options.

 

[YidArmyRach]

how would the parent or relative of one of his friends know that he was there if no one had heard from Dylan? why would they drive half hour each way on an off chance?

how does anyone know that Dylan is home alone since the plans were for him to be at his mates at 6.30am?

Because the friends were contacted the previous night to cancel the Sunday night arrangement and to re-organize for 6.30am. Next morning Dylan doesn't turn up. The friends know he has landed, and is with MR and going to stay at MR's overnight. Therefore, they knew where he must be when he didn't turn up that morning.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Truer words were never spoken ''Those conclusions are not arrived at lightly or even comfortably,they have been arrived at because of what does and doesn't add up''

This is absolutely the worst of the scenarios and the one I hope is not the case, but it is a possibility and at this point I'd venture to say a ' probability' . But I don't think anyone has said 100% there is no other option than MR .

Even after learning about the family's past with alleged drinking, violence, etc. I thought maybe he did run away from this horrible home life.... I still think it's possible. I am still hoping he's somewhere breathing and walking and wondering how the heck he got so lost. It' s unlikely though and I know this.

Thanks, its true, a parent is the last person we ever want to believe has harmed their child, but we know all too often they have (not saying its a definite in this case as yet).

I think people need to ask themselves why we wouldn't be suspicious with what we know so far?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

So, surely there would be enough there for forensics to confirm they were recently worn/used by Dylan (along with fingerprints at the house) - so that should stop all the suggestions that something happened on the way from the airport and Dylan never even made it to Dad's house.

If LE knows from forensics that Dylan did indeed enter the house - surely they would be better saying so - to stop all the rumour and insinuation that MR did something to him on the drive home. But that doesn't match with the searches they are supposedly carrying out on the route home.

This case is so confusing - esp when next to no details whatsoever have been released.

The problem with that is Dylan has been to the house before so it wouldn't be odd for his prints to be on lots of things. He may have even used that blanket the last time he was there.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Something I have learned is pay very close attention to what LE does and doesn't do or say.

 

[Bravo]

Well I did find one. The girl hiking with her family and wandered off.
She has been found safe. The other was a girl who was last
seen at school and they thought she was with an aunt en route
to her ' non custodial' mother in another city or state. The third
was an older girl who had taken off before , so might have
run away. tks !

The problem is there is a staggering number of missing people daily
It's amazing how fast the site can move things to the bottom because
newer cases are coming up every second. How sad

Wish i could be of help. Not familiar with those cases. It is so very sad how many go missing. And those are the cases that make it here. Heartbreaking.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Because the friends were contacted the previous night to cancel the Sunday night arrangement and to re-organize for 6.30am. Next morning Dylan doesn't turn up. The friends know he has landed, and is with MR and going to stay at MR's overnight. Therefore, they knew where he must be when he didn't turn up that morning.

how do they know he is there? We don't know that they knew he had landed at all, for all we know they might have thought the be there tomorrow morning at 6.30am meant his flight had been changed again.
he could have been out with his dad doing things.

IMO a friends parent or relative is not going to do a one hour trip (there and back) on an offchance that Dylan might be there alone so they can take him.

 

[Bravo]

Something I have learned is pay very close attention to what LE does and doesn't do or say.

Yes sometimes actions speak louder than words.

 

[FlyerFan28]

I agree. I think it would be more likely to be old issues erupting and DR being in the line of fire, than anger at ER making him target DR out of spite.

Before I had determined which side of this case I would be looking at, I had come up with a thought about the phone and the disappearance. It no longer fits now, because it would have been pretty dumb under "my" circumstances to get the ipod and clothes from the backpack and bring them home with him... if it is his ipod and if they were clothes he brought with him that trip.

Anyway, I had thought that DR may have been disrespectful (?) because he wasn't going to his friend's that night. He could have sent the text saying he'd be there the next day, and then started arguing with his dad about it. After a while, he picked up his phone and said he was going to call his mother and say he wants to go home. MR grabbed the phone and threw it out the window telling him he wasn't calling anyone. DR, without really thinking, opened the door and jumped out to get his phone, landed on his head and either died or was close to it. MR knew what everybody would think so he put him back in the truck, found a place to hide him/his body and went home to figure out what to tell people.

If some of his stuff fell out of the backpack and he didn't notice it right away, and brought it inside once he did, does that work?

I agree with most of this but tend to think that MR brought his unconscious son home and disposed of his body the next day. That maybe DR died during the night. Or maybe I watch too much tv.

It would make his statements about Dylan going to sleep at 8pm and being 'out like a light' mostly truths.

 

[asyousay]

I honestly can not see him running away from home and not being found before now if that was the case .

 

[kkdj]

I agree with most of this but tend to think that MR brought his unconscious son home and disposed of his body the next day. That maybe DR died during the night. Or maybe I watch too much tv.

It would make his statements about Dylan going to sleep at 8pm and being 'out like a light' mostly truths.

I think if he would have passed at dads home during the night that cadaver dogs would have had a hit there.
Jmo

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

This thought has crossed my mind too. Even though it may be a little far reaching...what if MR was trying to be the 'cool Dad' and gave Dylan alcohol when they got home and something happened?

 

[TxJan1971]

I think if he would have passed at dads home during the night that cadaver dogs would have had a hit there.
Jmo

Were cadaver dogs taken to MR's house?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I think if he would have passed at dads home during the night that cadaver dogs would have had a hit there.
Jmo

True. But how do we know they didn't? They haven't released any info on what they found or didn't find at Dad's house.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Were cadaver dogs taken to MR's house?

One would assume....but I haven't heard about this one way or the other.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think you're reading what people are saying wrong, its not about accusing only Dad, we've all been over and over and over every little thing we know, we''ve played out all the anyone but the father theories and eventually come to our own conclusions as to what has happened to Dylan. Those conclusions are not arrived at lightly or even comfortably,they have been arrived at because of what does and doesn't add up, what LE has been and is doing, what we know for fact and also the current search between Durango and Vallecito.


We all want Dylan to be brought home, thats why we're here, but we need to be realistic too, he has been missing for almost 3 weeks and snow is about to start falling so time is now against us.

Thats the problem for me anyway. I havent seen any really facts that support guilt one way or the other for anyone.

But I do agree........I dont take my opinion lightly either. I am quite comforable with the decisions I make though but if something should come out that LE releases to steer me in a different direction I can change my opinion in a heartbeat.

My opinion is never set in stone in any case unless changes are announced by LE such as a change in status and LE specifically names a possible suspect or POI.

But in this case no suspect has been named much less a POI and Monday will be three weeks.

At this time I am still open to other possibilities except I never believed Dylan would run away and Im glad LE ruled that out. LE has not taken off the table from the get go though...."abduction' and I think they have a very valid reason for not ruling out that possibility.

IMO