CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #13

[TxJan1971]

Holy crap, that is the most informative and detailed timeline I have ever seen. You are absolutely amazing and I'm in complete awe!!


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Thank you! I believe my background as a manager/project manager makes this an easy task for me - I am totally used to doing these types of timelines/research/organizing. I've just expanded my fields to include "sleuthing crime" ...

 

[TxJan1971]

Holy crap, that is the most informative and detailed timeline I have ever seen. You are absolutely amazing and I'm in complete awe!!


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Again, if you think it would be helpful, please feel free to share with this group. I just don't know how/where, etc. Maybe Beach can post it somewhere.

 

[LotusPawprint]

LE cannot discuss anything about whether Dylan made it to MR's house...because if he didn't then they would have to name him as a suspect...not even POI

That is very simply stated and makes a heck of a lot of sense.


Hence minimal requests for public help, details on timelines, ruling out anyone, official definitive statements, etc.

Just looking for things to substantiate this. 11 1/2 hours is alot of potential time and territory to cover.

jmo.

 

[TxJan1971]

Ten agencies, including the La Plata County Sheriff's Office, the local police departments and the Red Cross gathered to further search with the community. Searchers hiked more than 60 miles of county roads looking for things Dylan may have thrown out of a car window.

They said it's possible he tried to escape or hide in areas of brush to keep warm.

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico...17707274/-/pj5977z/-/index.html#ixzz2EaAtTEty

For the tight-knit town that now has posters up everywhere, the thought of an abduction was completely unexpected, yet, investigators told Action 7 News that's exactly what they think happened.

Thanks for the updated information. I'll add it to my timeline.

 

[LaMer]

I had really hoped they would find some evidence, at least of the phone, yesterday. But the terrain out there is so rugged and dense. And a tossed item out the window of a vehicle, especially something with some weight to it such as a cell phone, really would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. And there appear to be so many desolute roads and laneways that run off that highway. There is no way they can all be checked. I hope all the people in the area are more vigilant when driving around those roads and check their own property thoroughly now that there has been such a large and obvious search of the area.

So we have MR going to Bayfield in the late afternoon/early evening on the Monday? When does it start getting dark there? I think it may be time to check the route between Vallecito and Bayfield...at least for possible evidence and missing items like a backpack.

It is interesting to me that MR first suggested the possibility that Dylan might have tried to make his way to Bayfield and then we later heard of the missing fishing pole and the Lake area was focused on. Which is odd because as someone has already pointed out, there seems to be a very large stream/river right across the street from where MR lives. Is there no access anywhere close where a young kid could go there and throw in a fishing rod? And there is likely no way that someone local did not travel the road between MR's home and the lake in the 45 minute span it would have taken Dylan to get to the lake and to have noticed a young boy walking along in shorts and a t-shirt on a cold morning and carrying a fishing pole. Or maybe someone did...and they offered him a lift?

But if someone did offer a ride to Dylan, whether he was out walking or hitching on the road or whether it was someone who knew that Dylan was there at the house alone, it still would be prudent to check the Vallecito to Bayfield route. I just wish they had decided to do these searches much earlier. And call in TES for assistance!

MOO

BBM

IIRC, The fishing pole had been a new one, a gift from MR? I cannot get past thinking about the 'fishing pole'! A Red Herring?

First off, any time my children come to visit, all else is cancelled! Attorney appmts can be rearranged, if anything is that important, a telephone call would work, why not? If MR had something to do for work, surely that could have been done later, or even if he dropped Dylan off first, forget about the extra miles or out of his way. I think most of us would have arranged heaven and earth for our children to accomodate their plans. About not being able to awake Dylan, so wait!!!!! Seems strange to me the mention of the fishing pole. Why? Were there other fishing poles in the residence? We have so many no one would ever know one had been missing, unless recently purchased and made a big deal of it.

Does anyone know if MR had shown proof of recently buying a fishing pole? Even if MR did, Doesn't mean it was in the house or he had even given it to Dylan.

Excuse for Dylan being gone, and a 'Red Herring'! imo

 

[scorekeeper]

Ten agencies, including the La Plata County Sheriff's Office, the local police departments and the Red Cross gathered to further search with the community. Searchers hiked more than 60 miles of county roads looking for things Dylan may have thrown out of a car window.

They said it's possible he tried to escape or hide in areas of brush to keep warm.

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico...17707274/-/pj5977z/-/index.html#ixzz2EaAtTEty

For the tight-knit town that now has posters up everywhere, the thought of an abduction was completely unexpected, yet, investigators told Action 7 News that's exactly what they think happened.

How long did it take LE to release photos of DR at Walmart? A few weeks?

Well, golly gee, if he was abducted, why the heck wait so freakin' long to release his picture from Walmart????

Why aren't LE and the PARENTS on national TV demanding information??

Why no amber alert or BOLO or at least a press conference??

JMO - Dylan was abducted from his mother by his father!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I agree! Looking at the intersection right in front of the house makes me wonder...could Dylan have been waiting in the driveway for his dad, maybe stepping out in the road looking for signs of him coming, when someone rolled up to that intersection and noticed him?

Yes.... With a For Sale sign across the street per posters on this thread...

certainly something to think about!

 

[cluciano63]

The fact that LE doesn't say whether Dylan spent the night at his father's house is disconcerting to me; do they even know?

 

[vasportsmom]

Again, if you think it would be helpful, please feel free to share with this group. I just don't know how/where, etc. Maybe Beach can post it somewhere.

I reported one of my posts and asked if it would be ok to share the link. It would be wonderful if everyone had access to it. There is so much info there and it is put together perfectly.


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[jjenny]

The fact that LE doesn't say whether Dylan spent the night at his father's house is disconcerting to me; do they even know?

I am not sure they know. Even if they didn't find any DNA, they can't rule it out. Especially considering they didn't search the house for 10 days. And if they did find some DNA or fingerprints, Dylan was there in September.

 

[Confusion]

Great post; thank you.

I think the article about Dylan's stepbrother is also important (for some reason my "search" feature isn't working?). It's the one with the picture of him with his new baby. IMO, it's important because the stepbrother talks about the broken relationship _he_ had with his father, and kind of cools (IMO) the speculation by some that Mrs. Redwine is responsible for the strained relationships between Dylan, Corey, and Mr. Redwine. This young man was from a different marriage.

Again, great post. How awful.

I just posted this in response to someone else's post, but I do think the article with Dylan's stepbrother should be reread, as it mentions the issues he had with his father as well. Not meaning that MR is guilty of anything; just that he seemed to have issues with managing his relationships with his sons.

Sorry if this has been clarified already, but where has anything been written about the stepbrother? I haven't even seen him or the stepsister mentioned anywhere. Are you meaning his half-brother? TIA

 

[tamild]

But if he was so impatient about dad, why didn't he call dad on his cell and ask when he was returning?

Why go stand out by the corner, without calling anyone and checking on rides?


He had one friend who lived just a few miles away. Why not contact him and ask if they were going into town that morning? Or call the other friends to see if he could get picked up?

IDK-Maybe because he believed his Dad when he said he'd be back at 11? I'm just thinking of my own kids in this scenario...I've seen them do the "caged animal walk" back and forth across the driveway waiting for my husband to get home to take them somewhere. They've learned that if they don't catch him before he gets in the house and gets his boots off, they are going to be waiting until he gets damned good and ready to go back out!

 

[Confusion]

I am not sure they know. Even if they didn't find any DNA, they can't rule it out. Especially considering they didn't search the house for 10 days. And if they did find some DNA or fingerprints, Dylan was there in September.

His house was searched earlier, but it was done without a search warrant.

 

[jjenny]

In a recent case I read about on the news a woman who was lost in the woods in N.CA said she slept in hollow tree trunks to keep warm. She survived for 5 days while her companion who went for help was found dead.

But the road from Durango to Vallecito lake is not exactly un-occupied. I fail to see why someone would sit near this road for days, instead of flagging down a car.

 

[vasportsmom]

Sorry if this has been clarified already, but where has anything been written about the stepbrother? I haven't even seen him or the stepsister mentioned anywhere. Are you meaning his half-brother? TIA

Yes, they mean Nick the half brother. The one that came up from Arizona early on.


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[jjenny]

His house was searched earlier, but it was done without a search warrant.

It doesn't appear any forensics were done during the first search.

 

[cluciano63]

I am not sure they know. Even if they didn't find any DNA, they can't rule it out. Especially considering they didn't search the house for 10 days. And if they did find some DNA or fingerprints, Dylan was there in September.

I agree, how could they prove conclusively he had been there on November 18-19th? Items of clothing prove nothing. DNA, fingerprints, not really proof, time-wise. Rumpled bedding, the same. The only way I can think of is if he called someone and said he was there, but that did not happen.

If in fact LE does not even know this much, how on earth can they ever solve this case? I am NOT saying the don't know, but if they don't, they can have no idea what they have here, IMO.

 

[PaulR]

Well, golly gee, if he was abducted, why the heck wait so freakin' long to release his picture from Walmart????

Why aren't LE and the PARENTS on national TV demanding information??

Why no amber alert or BOLO or at least a press conference??

JMO - Dylan was abducted from his mother by his father!

(1) Who knows? If they delayed releasing the photo because they think MR was involved, that logic no longer holds because... they've released the photo.

(2) ER was on national TV. Both parents have given interviews to newspapers and TV.

(3) Here is why no Amber Alert has been issued:
http://www.amberalert.gov/faqs.htm

What are the criteria for issuing AMBER Alerts?
...
Law enforcement must confirm that an abduction has taken place
There is sufficient descriptive information of child, captor, or captor's vehicle to issue an alert

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[beach]

VASPORTSMOM,
If upon receiving my timeline/keywords/links, etc., you or Beach feel that it would be helpful to post somewhere in this forum so others could easily search for things, please feel free to do so. It may be too lengthy but I'll let you/Beach or someone else decide.
Thanks again for your help in getting this to Beach.

You guys can post the link to your dropbox here as long as y'all are comfortable doing it.

Thank you so much everyone! I cannot tell you how impressed I am and even more appreciative!

 

[DylansMom34]

I think LE has information about Sunday night. I think its telling that they showed the airport and Walmart pictures and then had the media clarify that Dylan was last seen in the DC shirt (and not the Nike shirt originally reported). To me if they were certain that Dylan made it to Dad's house, they would just say so.