CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #14

[Passin' Me By]

Does anyone from WS ever contact a local reporter in these cases and say hey would you come visit with us and clear up some of your TYPO's etc, so we know what's really going on because we 're not sure after reading your articles?

Schmae..think you've been reading my mind. Thought to myself "is this case getting stranger or is the news reporting/articles becoming more evasive"? Then to top it off.. NG gets in the mix. IMHO, it is really difficult to take what is said on her show at 100% value because she bullies the answer she wants from people. For Dylan's sake, I hope someone out there puts together a properly written article which includes a time line (like TX's) in MSM.

 

[newsjunkie]

Sorry I used your post but I thought it was in the context of MR driving a truck.

No worries! Like I said, I just didn't want to leave you hangin'. For the other posters, it probably was in that context. I just added my RL experience to the conversation.

 

[packerdog]

Does anyone know if MR called his home phone or Dylan's cell from 7:30 am to 11:30 am while he was running errands Monday? If he didn't that would be very odd. He would have called to make sure he was up and had breakfast, took a shower, and if nothing else to be ready when he returned so that he could then drop him off at his friends house.

I also would think it odd that he didn't contact him being that it was the first day of their time together, keep in touch kinda thing. Maybe being sorry he had to run errands early that day. Did he find everything ok. If in fact he did call and got no answer he would or should have went home right away. This would also narrow down the timeline of what time he went missing. If he indeed made no contact during this time, why not?

 

[Bravo]

Does anyone know if MR called his home phone or Dylan's cell from 7:30 am to 11:30 am while he was running errands Monday? If he didn't that would be very odd. He would have called to make sure he was up and had breakfast, took a shower, and if nothing else to be ready when he returned so that he could then drop him off at his friends house.

I also would think it odd that he didn't contact him being that it was the first day of their time together, keep in touch kinda thing. Maybe being sorry he had to run errands early that day. Did he find everything ok. If in fact he did call and got no answer he would or should have went home right away. This would also narrow down the timeline of what time he went missing. If he indeed made no contact during this time, why not?

Only thing we do know is MR Stated he texted Dylan in the aft. when returning from errands. We have no other news on that. So far.

 

[FootballMom]

I thought I'd add an example of what a basic Pearltree resembles for a case that I follow. The real tree I have is against TOS due to the level of detail & connections but it took me less than 3 min to create this example.

The Pearls can be customized with photos, comments, news articles, etc... The maker of the tree can also "instruct" Pearltrees to add Pearls automatically on your behalf, if you like. Think of it as a "smart tree" that will pull and attach Pearls of information on your subject automatically.

You also have the option to share your tree or keep it private.

 

[SCHMAE]

Does anyone know if MR called his home phone or Dylan's cell from 7:30 am to 11:30 am while he was running errands Monday? If he didn't that would be very odd. He would have called to make sure he was up and had breakfast, took a shower, and if nothing else to be ready when he returned so that he could then drop him off at his friends house.

I also would think it odd that he didn't contact him being that it was the first day of their time together, keep in touch kinda thing. Maybe being sorry he had to run errands early that day. Did he find everything ok. If in fact he did call and got no answer he would or should have went home right away. This would also narrow down the timeline of what time he went missing. If he indeed made no contact during this time, why not?

This interest me : ''and if nothing else to be ready when he returned so that he could then drop him off at his friends house.''

Do we know that MR said he would take him to his friends later? All I really heard was he slept in, thus missing his ride. I was not aware that anyone said the ride would take place later. I say this because I live in the sticks and I'm pretty anal about doing all my 'errands' in one outing. If I go out, I'm doing it all then. If you want a ride to a friend's house then you go when I go because once I get back home, I will not " HAPPILY" go out again. This totally aggravates my 14 yr old but she knows that's how it is. " can we just get back out later'' is something she doesn't bother to ask anymore.
So could MR have said , ' if you don't get up now, you're ' missing' your ride' meaning this is the only time I'm going to drive that long way? Point being when Dylan woke up he might have known he blew it by sleeping in . So now it's up to him to find a ride to his friends' house OR stay home . Ponderings.

 

[tamild]

Does anyone know if MR called his home phone or Dylan's cell from 7:30 am to 11:30 am while he was running errands Monday? If he didn't that would be very odd. He would have called to make sure he was up and had breakfast, took a shower, and if nothing else to be ready when he returned so that he could then drop him off at his friends house.

I also would think it odd that he didn't contact him being that it was the first day of their time together, keep in touch kinda thing. Maybe being sorry he had to run errands early that day. Did he find everything ok. If in fact he did call and got no answer he would or should have went home right away. This would also narrow down the timeline of what time he went missing. If he indeed made no contact during this time, why not?

Good question. LE seems to have checked, though:
BBM

SGT. DAN BENDER, LA PLATA CTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE (via telephone): The investigators checked at the different locations that Mark Redwine said he was at during that time, including a meeting or two in Durango, I believe. And those were confirmed.

GRACE: OK. So his whereabouts are accounted for. Question. Sergeant, was there any activity on the home telephone or the computer while Dad was gone?

BENDER: Those are things that the investigators have looked into, and I don`t have that information.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1211/28/ng.01.html

 

[JustJeannie]

Does anyone know if MR called his home phone or Dylan's cell from 7:30 am to 11:30 am while he was running errands Monday? If he didn't that would be very odd. He would have called to make sure he was up and had breakfast, took a shower, and if nothing else to be ready when he returned so that he could then drop him off at his friends house.

I also would think it odd that he didn't contact him being that it was the first day of their time together, keep in touch kinda thing. Maybe being sorry he had to run errands early that day. Did he find everything ok. If in fact he did call and got no answer he would or should have went home right away. This would also narrow down the timeline of what time he went missing. If he indeed made no contact during this time, why not?

I can pretty much guarantee you my husband wouldn't call. By the time my boys were 13, he expected them to be at least semi-responsible, and he'd also figure they wouldn't want to be "babied" by his dad checking up on them, when he's only going to be gone a few hours. He'd figure, "I told him when I'd be home, until then, if he needs something he'll get in touch with me." And he'd expect them to get themselves up if they wanted a ride somewhere. That's just how he rolls, and I suspect a lot of dads are like that.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Does anyone know if MR called his home phone or Dylan's cell from 7:30 am to 11:30 am while he was running errands Monday? If he didn't that would be very odd. He would have called to make sure he was up and had breakfast, took a shower, and if nothing else to be ready when he returned so that he could then drop him off at his friends house.

I also would think it odd that he didn't contact him being that it was the first day of their time together, keep in touch kinda thing. Maybe being sorry he had to run errands early that day. Did he find everything ok. If in fact he did call and got no answer he would or should have went home right away. This would also narrow down the timeline of what time he went missing. If he indeed made no contact during this time, why not?

Good question and I'm sure LE knows the answer to this but they're not sharing.

 

[SCHMAE]

I can pretty much guarantee you my hsuband wouldn't call. By the time my boys were 13, he expected them to be at least semi-responsible, and he'd also figure they wouldn't want to be "babied" by his dad checking up on them, when he's only going to be gone a few hours. He'd figure, "I told him when I'd be home, until then, if he needs something he'll get in touch with me." And he'd expect them to get themselves up if they wanted a ride somewhere. That's just how he rolls, and I suspect a lot of dads are like that.

Totally agree with you here. Men do not feel the need to 'check in' nearly the way women do. No offense to men, it's just the way they're wired. Men don't check in with their friends the way women do. They just assume everything is ok if they haven't heard otherwise. Women seem to be more like 'lemme check in to be sure everything is ok' , abandoning the no news is good news rule ............. a rule that must have been created by a man, LOL !

 

[imamaze]

Okay, I know the parameters are confusing. I was able to restore the info regarding MH having 2 children from his first marriage. See my note in the edit line of your original post. That is as far as we're going to go as far as sleuthing MH. (We don't even need to use initials of his children from his first marriage as they are totally irrelevant to Dylan's case. Just trying to protect anonymity of any innocent non-players as best we can.)

Bumping...

 

[Darcyline]

I feel like I know a different species of man than others lol. I don't think I know a single man who would call their teenager to make sure they ate breakfast and were getting dressed. I would almost be more suspicious if he did try calling multiple times like in an attempt to seem innocent and ignorant of what has happened.
I do want to find this type of man though because sometimes it would be convenient to have a "keep in touch call and make sure someone has eaten breakfast" type guy!

I do wish we had full phone information though-everything (and throw in internet stuff too)

 

[Ransom]

This interest me : ''and if nothing else to be ready when he returned so that he could then drop him off at his friends house.''

Do we know that MR said he would take him to his friends later? All I really heard was he slept in, thus missing his ride. I was not aware that anyone said the ride would take place later. I say this because I live in the sticks and I'm pretty anal about doing all my 'errands' in one outing. If I go out, I'm doing it all then. If you want a ride to a friend's house then you go when I go because once I get back home, I will not " HAPPILY" go out again. This totally aggravates my 14 yr old but she knows that's how it is. " can we just get back out later'' is something she doesn't bother to ask anymore.
So could MR have said , ' if you don't get up now, you're ' missing' your ride' meaning this is the only time I'm going to drive that long way? Point being when Dylan woke up he might have known he blew it by sleeping in . So now it's up to him to find a ride to his friends' house OR stay home . Ponderings.

Yes. DR was supposed to go spend some days with his buds.

Here's the transcript and the video of MR talking to the reporter about DR, friends, T'day plans, etc.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8596261&postcount=31"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *Media , Maps & Timelines*[/ame]

R: Can you tell me about your plans for Thanksgiving?

M: Well, because he was with me for such a short period of time, we had touched on a few things. One of the things was we talked about going to my brother David's house in Castle Rock. Um, I know his friends were important to him so we were wanting to make sure he had adequate time with his friends. Um, you know basically the plan was Monday and Tuesday he would spend with his friends. Maybe Wednesday, you know we had talked a little bit about going bowling or doing something as an activity, not with just me and him, his friends included. Then we would have Thanksgiving day to ourselves. Or there was a possibility we would travel and get to my brother's house. So, you know, none of that ever got finalized. I mean, we were just focusing on the next day and what we were going to do and how that was going to take place. That's as far as we really ever got. You know, his friends are important to him and I certainly don't expect him to spend a whole week with me when he's got, he's grown up in this community and he's got tons of people who love and care about him.
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ETA: That's why his stuff was packed. IMO.

 

[PaulR]

Totally agree with you here. Men do not feel the need to 'check in' nearly the way women do. No offense to men, it's just the way they're wired. Men don't check in with their friends the way women do. They just assume everything is ok if they haven't heard otherwise. Women seem to be more like 'lemme check in to be sure everything is ok' , abandoning the no news is good news rule ............. a rule that must have been created by a man, LOL !

Obligatory comment from a male... this is accurate.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Agree.

Reading some of her FB postings are heartbreaking.

Regarding dragging ER through the mud-

I think people are actually intending just the opposite. I think what people are saying, is that ER has a history of some sort that some may find questionable. However, she is a good person. She is innocent and heartbroken. So making mistakes Or making poor decisions does not automatically mean you are a murderer. I think that is the only point people are trying to make.

 

[Bravo]

Every time i get frustrated with questions LE doesn't answer. I remind myself why. Because they don't "have" to. Doesn't make me any happier tho :banghead:

 

[tamild]

I feel like I know a different species of man than others lol. I don't think I know a single man who would call their teenager to make sure they ate breakfast and were getting dressed. I would almost be more suspicious if he did try calling multiple times like in an attempt to seem innocent and ignorant of what has happened.
I do want to find this type of man though because sometimes it would be convenient to have a "keep in touch call and make sure someone has eaten breakfast" type guy!

I do wish we had full phone information though-everything (and throw in internet stuff too)

BBM
My experience has been the same. I'm lucky if I can get my husband to even answer a call, let alone actually make one!

 

[Ransom]

Obligatory comment from a male... this is accurate.

This female is the same way. If I told you I would be back by a certain, I'll be back at that time. I'm not calling/texting anyone.

 

[asyousay]

Is the lack of INFO normal in a case like this ?

I personally find it strange that more is not being done to find him but i am from London in the U,K so i can only go by cases like The Soham Murders, Madeline McCann , James Bulger , Sarah Payne and a few more but everything stops and its 24/7 media on them cases. And of course the U,S is so very different as it very's state to state but even so , for me it looks like they are basically doing zilch to find this poor boy.

Just no new leads , no info to get the public looking and its quite shocking from an outsider looking in.

 

[Confusion]

You guys are getting slow, after more than 12 hours away from here, I had less than 200 unread posts to catch up on!

change my words to 'some people might think sleeping on a ....

but surely if it is true then why didn't he take action to at least protect the boys? police might not have been able to arrest but surely they could have given a warning? I know that can happen here.

and if it was an ongoing problem like his eventual complaint made it seem) then not taking any action at the time to protect the kids is negligent IMO

He said he removed the kids from school because of it (I think those were the words), but could he have just meant that he would pick them up and drive them home to make sure she didn't drive with them after drinking?

If my spouse is getting drunk and driving with my children in the car, and wouldn't stop because I told/asked him/her to, heck yeah, the children would come first, and LE would be involved.

I've seen nothing to indicate that he never talked to anyone about it. MOO


I'm glad that info about MH's other "children" has been mentioned.
I have part of a timeline that may be the final piece in driving Beach crazy! So far we have:

M & F married in 19** (Mike and first wife)
M & F divorced in 19** (Mike and first wife)
M & E married in 1988 (Mike & Elaine)
M & E divorced in 19** (Mike & Elaine)
M & E divorced in 1989 (Mark & E.)
M&E married in 1991 (Mark and Elaine)
M&E divorced in 2005 (Mark & Elaine)
M&E moved to a home together and are engaged (Mike & Elaine)