CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #14

[Seajay]

I give up trying to explain this. lol

Either people skip over posts and don't see it or new ones come in and don't read past posts or they don't want to accept the explanation.

ETA: Or they are posting and trying to get back to where they left off reading and miss a few posts, apparently like I did when I missed that ER was married to MH before and is now engaged to him again. :what: :blush:

 

[carole]

But there was a neighbor who saw her ex's car lurking nearby, correct? Or am I mis-remembering?

No, he wasn't a boyfriend

This is Shari's sister Dawn's website - it explains what happened - a very compelling read. Dawn went on to become a Miss South Carolina.

http://www.dawnsmithjordan.com/article_ROC.php

 

[Ransom]

How about divorce date for E and MH? :waitasec:

Haven't found that yet. Hubs took off with my MacBook Pro and I'm stuck using his worthless PC. lol

ETA: El Paso County COLORADO (not the town in Texas) is the location of Colorado Springs for everyone's info. that didn't bother to look that up.

 

[scorekeeper]

Sorry if I opened a can of worms but ...... lol. Would you like a pillow for your tush?

What other info do you want. I gave you marriage dates for E and MH and then for E and MR.

No can of worms but a pillow would be nice. :floorlaugh:

Wanted dates that Mark has been married; I gather he was married before he married Elaine, since he has other children besides CR and Dylan...

And also whether MH was married after his divorce from Elaine and before their now engagement...

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

This is like trying to figure out my ex-husband's family....:seeya:

 

[PaulR]

I found that odd too, if you were so concerned about your ex wife drinking and driving with the kids in the car wouldn't you report her to LE when you knew for fact she had been drinking.

For all we know he did. I don't think LE can arrest someone if they make a claim that their estranged ex-whatever is drinking and driving, since they didn't observe the behavior.

 

[cfreyja23]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/303598/339/Missing-boys-family-had-violent-history
at 1:32 the reporter states about the TRO granted to MR to prevent ER from drinking/driving with the kids in 2005.

In the printed article is that case and then moves to the 2 RO in July 2008 ... one ER against MR and the other MR against ER/CR in July. THOSE two were dismissed in Dec. 2008.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121203/NEWS01/121209881/0/SEARCH/Police-reveal-no-new-leads
Mark Redwine filed a restraining order against his son, Cory, and Elaine Redwine in July 2008. Elaine Redwine filed a restraining order against her ex-husband on the same date. Dylan was listed as a protected person in both orders. Both of the orders were dismissed in December 2008.

Thanks for the reply. What the article does not make clear, though a review of the civil records of that county would clarify, is whether the 2008 ROs were essentially what other jurisdictions call "protective (or protection) orders". It varies across the country. When I read that article, it appeared to me that all of the various restraining orders (and not what I would call "protection orders" which were attached to the divorce case (and became temporary injunctions in that suit), as it would be done in my state. In Texas, a protective order is very different than a restraining order in a divorce. The former is criminally enforceable, while the latter can be enforced civilly. I don't practice family law in Colorado, so I don't know whether they call criminally enforceable protective orders "restraining orders," but they are very different pretty much everywhere else in the country. The article does not make it clear whether the applications were filed under the divorce suit or as separate applications. Thanks for clarifying the dates. I still have no idea why anyone would refer to a criminal case for ER, as even a civil protection order is only quasi-criminal.
Btw, I've been verified with websleuths as an attorney. I'm not sure how to change that on my profile.

 

[OneLove]

Has Mark Redwine pointed any fingers? The interviews Ive seen he refuses to do that even though Elaine has tried to trash him in the media.

IMO

He hasn't accused Elaine of hurting or taking Dylan. But he has said that SHE is his problem. Hmmmm. NOT his missing son. Or other factors in his life that look like problems to many of us.

 

[Ransom]

Either people skip over posts and don't see it or new ones come in and don't read past posts or they don't want to accept the explanation.

Or I'm on ignore. lol.

 

[Confusion]

Oh my...this sounds like an running story on General Hospital. My husband's great great great grandfather was a polygamist. He had three wives and they all lived next door to each other. Each night, he would go up on the porch and roll out his mat towards the door. If that wife wanted him to stay, she would pull it in. If she didn't, she would roll it back out towards him and he would collect it and move on to the next wife! LOL Doesn't sound half bad! JK

I always thought he did it because he got in trouble for calling my mother by the wrong name and wanted to hedge his bets.

 

[Seajay]

No can of worms but a pillow would be nice. :floorlaugh:

Wanted dates that Mark has been married; I gather he was married before he married Elaine, since he has other children besides CR and Dylan...

And also whether MH was married after his divorce from Elaine and before their now engagement...

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

This is like trying to figure out my ex-husband's family....:seeya:

Did we establish that the dude she's engage to marry now is one and the same of who she was married to before she married MR???

 

[kkdj]

BBM!

I take what any ex says with a whole boatload of salt and then some!

I normally do too. But when a child is missing and one parent says unkind things publically, nationally, about the other, i take notice.
Who would do that, trying to cause the public to look at one person, if they didn't believe it to be true? Goodness! Her child is missing!
Anyway that's how I felt about ER statements.

 

[beach]

You mean Mike, Mark is the only one who has been approved.

Yes...MIKE. ER's first husband and current fiancee. whew


I warned you guys I couldn't keep spinning like this! :floorlaugh:



I'll go edit my original post before I confuse everybody else. sorry!

 

[shefner]

I don't know how much deeper I can go. I need a notebook.

 

[scorekeeper]

Did we establish that the dude she's engage to marry now is one and the same of who she was married to before she married MR???

yes, Ransom verified...

You perhaps missed that post...LOL

the thread has been moving quickly, hasn't it?:floorlaugh:

 

[FrayedKnot]

My head is spinning. Help me please.

Elaine was married to Mike

Elaine and Mike got divorced

Elaine married Mark

Elaine and Mark got divorced

Elaine is now engaged to Mike (that's seem strange to be engaged to a man you were once married too......)

IDK, I am now married to a man I was once engaged to. Twenty years ago. Before meeting and marrying my first husband.

It could happen.

 

[Seajay]

I normally do too. But when a child is missing and one parent says unkind things publically, nationally, about the other, i take notice.
Who would do that, trying to cause the public to look at one person, if they didn't believe it to be true? Goodness! Her child is missing!
Anyway that's how I felt about ER statements.

That made me wonder why she'd do something like that, accusing someone publically. Anger also is a good motivation. It sounds like there was a lot of that between them. IMO she struck the first blow. What IF he didn't have anything to do with it and all the focus is on him because of what she said, wasting precious time to be looking elsewhere?? What if she didn't think about that but said it because she was angry he didn't return her texts??? There is a whole lot of other reasons I can see her saying that that has nothing to do with her son missing. Just some observations I'm making and how I'm feeling about it.

 

[Angelo]

Yes I've seen her fiance at interviews (the first picture) and I've also read on the Find Dylan facebook page many references to him taking part in searches. I'd say he has been extremely involved in trying to find Dylan. Much more visible than Mark was those first several days. MOO

There is a pic of the fiance MH and CR on the FB page. Underneath the pic Find Missing Dylan Redwine wrote about MH. It says "he is the family's rock right now."

 

[scorekeeper]

Or I'm on ignore. lol.

Now you know better than that!! :seeya:

 

[cfreyja23]

I also wanted to point out that, depending on the state, protection orders (which are usually separate civil suits) can be very easy to apply for (as in California, where a pro se litigant could simply fill out a form and file it with a county clerk) or very difficult (as in my state, where it's hard to know what to do if you don't have an attorney). For all those people who said that the 2008 allegations were just a he said/she said situation, I have to agree, since the cases were both dismissed. On the other hand, I gave a lot of credence to their accusations because usually a protective order application (or even an emergency temorary injunction in a divorce) requires an affidavit stating the basis for the request--at least it does in this state. I'd like to think that most people would be very careful about lying in an affidavit. Just wanted to clear up why I believed their allegations.

 

[PaulR]

I normally do too. But when a child is missing and one parent says unkind things publically, nationally, about the other, i take notice.
Who would do that, trying to cause the public to look at one person, if they didn't believe it to be true? Goodness! Her child is missing!

For all I know she believes MR capable of doing it, but she lied on Nancy Grace. <modsnip>