CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #14

[Crosby87]

What if this was a fight?
Why would MR cover it up?


Why have we not seen any video of Dad in Walmart?

Good question. Wish I knew.

If MR & Dylan began to argue on the way to dad's place, MR may have decided to drive somewhere they could fight without attracting any attention.

MR certainly wouldn't want to admit he beat his child to death imo.

If LE don't find any signs of a struggle in MR's truck, this could be why.

 

[Annie1004]

I have worn myself out thinking about what could have happened to Dylan. Unfortunately, that pesky roadblock in our way is whether or not DR made it to MR's house on Sunday night. The lack of cell phone usage after 8:00 pm is quite disturbing, and I can't come up with a rational reason to explain that, even with the chance the cell phone just happened to die. IF DR was indeed at the house when MR left Monday morning, he could have been abducted or fallen into a ravine, mineshaft, cave, whatever on his own.

I get the feeling LE has not found any viable clues, although I am sure there is a lot we do not know. Is the community pushing for a presser or feeling impatient, too? As each day goes by, the feeling of helplessness increases.

Has dad been advised by his legal counsel to stop giving MSM interviews?

Sigh. Where are you, Dylan?

 

[Confusion]

I think any new ideas or speculation is great. Any direction to ponder. As I was reading I also thought about this. It has bothered me everyone talking about a fishing pole. MR distinctly said in his recount that he told LE DR's "rod" was missing. Now a fly rod is very different than a fishing pole. They are very expensive and can cost hundreds of dollars. So, what if a common thief was in the area and knowing MR was gone alot, he was breaking into the garage, storage area whatever, and DR heard him. Went out to investigate and encountered this person. The perp would not only take the fly rod, but probably the back pack and phone, and Dylan. He would head out and no telling where he drove. Just a thought and another possibility. jmo

I don't know how likely that is, or anything else for that matter, but there's also the possibility that they got it during the Labor Day visit and someone stole it while MR was working out of town. He may not have noticed it was gone until looking for DR if it were kept in a shed or garage or somewhere else he didn't pay attention to often. :waitasec:

 

[OneLove]

I think it's more because you tend to be called out by other posters if you present your opinions as facts.

This is true, and often people overlook the words you use to indicate an opinion, such as "I believe" or "I don't think it likely", or "my thoughts on it are". Heck, some folk even overlook " my opinion is".

A simple IMO can cover anything you've said, even if you've already said it. IMO.

 

[mck16]

Just north of Vallecito is the Weminuche Wilderness it is 488,210 acres large. All through the area north of hwy 160, there are roads leading up into it.
Whenever I am in the area i often remark it would be a great place to hide a body, where it would never be found.

But I was wondering if the area around the Vallecito creek has been searched. It makes more sense to me since it is closer to the house than the Lake is, if Dylan set out to do some fishing that that is where is set off to. Was the fishing pole, a fly pole?

In my post earlier I was basing my opinion on this quote: Mark Redwine said Sunday that he hadn't been able to find the boy's fishing rod.

To me a rod is very different than a pole and I know that a lot of the fishing in that area is "fly fishing". But as I said just another theory to think about.

Even if it was just a rod and reel they can be very expensive and could be a target for a thief. Just a thought.

 

[mck16]

I don't know how likely that is, or anything else for that matter, but there's also the possibility that they got it during the Labor Day visit and someone stole it while MR was working out of town. He may not have noticed it was gone until looking for DR if it were kept in a shed or garage or somewhere else he didn't pay attention to often. :waitasec:

I absolutely agree with you. jmo

 

[LotusPawprint]

In my post earlier I was basing my opinion on this quote: Mark Redwine said Sunday that he hadn't been able to find the boy's fishing rod.

To me a rod is very different than a pole and I know that a lot of the fishing in that area is "fly fishing". But as I said just another theory to think about.

Even if it was just a rod and reel they can be very expensive and could be a target for a thief. Just a thought.

This is the link where MR mentions the rod/pole.

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22063185

Mark Redwine said Sunday that he hadn't been able to find the boy's fishing rod.

"I question why it has taken this long to start scouring the lake because from Day One they have known it is likely he had a fishing pole with him," Redwine, 52, said.

Depends on if you count the first sentence as a direct quote "Mark Redwine said...... fishing rod" (not in quotes)

Is the reporter using that term interchangably with fishing pole?

Does it even matter?

Am I losing my sanity?

Did I have any to begin with?

Someone knows something...... where's Dylan???

 

[mck16]

Sorry! I didn't mean to insinaute you were making it up! I know he mentioned it, but he didn't say anything until the day LE happened to be searching the Lake, and it's never been mentioned again -- other than a few days later LE confirmed that the fishing pole found at the Lake was confirmed to be someone else's.

I think if a kid was abducted with a fishing pole, it may have been mentioned when describing him as what he had on his person. They can't even confirm what shirt he was definitively wearing, if he had a FISHING POLE I'd think that might help someone ID him. But my apologies to you, no bad intentions.

I don't think that is accurate, but maybe in a round about way it is. He said that he didn't understand why they were just now searching the lake because he told them the first day the rod was missing. So in that respect you are correct, but also, I don't think MR spoke to the public until they began to search the lake. To tell you the truth I am so totally confused as to when and what was said. Sorry and you can disregard this whole thing if you want. jmo

 

[OneLove]

Why would Dad report the fishing pole as missing if it weren't true?

I don't like thinking this is possible, in fact, it makes me ill, but he 'might', IMO, have reported it missing to direct searchers to search the lake. I 'believe' earlier articles stated that the area around the lake where a "live" Dylan might have been found was searched first, the first night even? So directing them later to go back and search the lake water itself seemed to ME, IMO, to be directing them to where they could only find a deceased Dylan. I have my opinions on why this might have been, but will save it until Dylan comes home. Or an arrest has been made.

IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO

 

[DylansMom34]

I'm pretty cynical about anyone having psychic abilities, but if there was ever a time I wish I had such abilities, it is when kids are missing.

 

[mck16]

This is the link where MR mentions the rod/pole.

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22063185



Depends on if you count the first sentence as a direct quote "Mark Redwine said...... fishing rod" (not in quotes)

Is the reporter using that term interchangably with fishing pole?

Does it even matter?
Am I losing my sanity?

Did I have any to begin with?

Someone knows something...... where's Dylan???

You are right and I guess it would only matter to a serious fisherman. There is a huge difference, but in this case it probably doesn't matter since no one believes him anyway. jmo

 

[LotusPawprint]

I don't think that is accurate, but maybe in a round about way it is. He said that he didn't understand why they were just now searching the lake because he told them the first day the rod was missing. So in that respect you are correct, but also, I don't think MR spoke to the public until they began to search the lake. To tell you the truth I am so totally confused as to when and what was said. Sorry and you can disregard this whole thing if you want. jmo

I understand what you're saying and it's important IMO. I don't think the fact that he was commenting to the public was the issue except that we got insight into what he knew and his communication w/LE.

He said that LE knew the fishing pole was missing from day 1, so that must have come from MR. And he couldn't understand why it took them a week (6 days?) for them to start scouring the lake. I'm trying to take a deep breath and step back from harping on him (it's hard, but I'm trying) but I'd think he would be open with them about his concerns if the fishing pole was missing the lake would be a logical place to search. No?
So the public comment doesn't bother me but it sounds like there wasn't great communication between MR and LE, maybe?

 

[SmoothOperator]

I do not why some posters are dragging ER names though the mud as she can not be guilty in any shape or form and by the sounds of her and Dylan was close .

She has had difficult times but it seems has turned her life around and that should be admired IMO

Unfortunately this is done in many cases.. why?.. (for this case specifically)..IMO its because some opinions are that MR is totally innocent(In the eyes of the law) and do not agree with the allowance of sleuthing and theorizing on possibilities of his involvement in Dylan's disappearance(but obviously this is not a court of law, nor do court standards apply when engaging in discussion on a MESSAGE BOARD) .. frustrated at the fact that the sleuthing and discussions of his involvement continue, IMO ER is attempted to be taken down the exact same path of sleuthing and discussing any negatives that can be found to attempt to somehow even the scoreboard..jmo..

make sense?..nope, it doesn't to me either tho, IMO I am able to clearly see the reason behind it being done..it doesn't make me in any way agree with it being done.. because the fact is as much as someone wants there to be an even/level playing field regarding MR and ER.. the fact is it is NOT LEVEL..NOR EVEN..AND NEVER WILL BE.. there is extremely good reason why one IS allowed by the rules for discussion and why one IS NOT and I'll certainly not waste space, breath, or time rehashing the obvious reasons why one is allowed and the other is not..

so, as I said Dylan's case is not unusual in the least in that regard due to the fact that it happens frequently in many cases where the opinions are split on who they believe is most likeliest involved and many times the opinion that falls on the side of the non sleuthable family member begin attempts at slipping in any negatives they can about the non sleuthable family member..

IMO that's exactly why it happens..jmo, tho

 

[Darcyline]

Wow I have seen no dragging her name through the mud or vicious attacks on ER-that is really strange and not up to Websleuths standards at all. Very bizarre-they must have been deleted before I saw them. My only complaint was her going to media to finger him, but only because that can or has hindered investigations before which can be very delicate. So, I understand in spirit why she did that, but hope that nothing she said affected the investigation negatively in any roundabout way.

Ultimately, Dylan is the goal here and what is important and I hope everyone remembers that.

 

[asyousay]

Wow I have seen no dragging her name through the mud or vicious attacks on ER-that is really strange and not up to Websleuths standards at all. Very bizarre-they must have been deleted before I saw them. My only complaint was her going to media to finger him, but only because that can or has hindered investigations before which can be very delicate. So, I understand in spirit why she did that, but hope that nothing she said affected the investigation negatively in any roundabout way.

Ultimately, Dylan is the goal here and what is important and I hope everyone remembers that.

I honestly do not blame her as she lashed out. She trusted him with there son and look at the outcome. I think if this had happened on her watch that MR would of been shouting from the roof tops ( IMO) . There divorce seemed to have a lot of mud slinging going on .

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.krdo.com/news/Officials-...case/-/417220/17730200/-/nglnh6z/-/index.html

Officials warn of ransom scam in missing boy case

Authorities say someone is trying to capitalize on a missing boy case in Durango and scam people out of money by sending messages via Facebook demanding ransom money.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Did a post go poof?

 

[cluciano63]

Some of you may recall that Desiree Young took some abuse on the boards for a while, from some posters, for various reasons, including giving up her two children to her exes, etc. It happens, even here at WS, at times. But it usually gets contained pretty quickly.

 

[Idon'tneedthesame]

Some of you may recall that Desiree Young took some abuse on the boards for a while, from some posters, for various reasons, including giving up her two children to her exes, etc. It happens, even here at WS, at times. But it usually gets contained pretty quickly.

It hasn't happened in this case.. Kind of disappointing.

 

[jennapuppy]

Some of you may recall that Desiree Young took some abuse on the boards for a while, from some posters, for various reasons, including giving up her two children to her exes, etc. It happens, even here at WS, at times. But it usually gets contained pretty quickly.

I've thought of Desiree Young a few times, and how she initially kept silent about her true feelings about Terri Horman in order to maintain a united front to the media. Of course, Kyron is still missing so, in retrospect, perhaps she wishes she had been vocal like ER.
moo