CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #15

[TxJan1971]

iPod removed from dad's house ......

Watch/listen to VIDEO
http://www.9news.com/news/article/302378/188/Missing-boys-father-denies-involvement

THANKS! I updated the timeline and will have VASportsmom repost soon...

 

[kai]

If father threw out the phone, broke the phone, etc, without doing anything to Dylan, why would he then text that phone Monday? It doesn't add up.

IF dad damaged the phone and worse he would want it to appear that "life was normal" and have an alibi created. Dad would continue to text, call, go to appointments etc... until Dylan was "discovered" missing.

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[jjenny]

We are discussing the scenario in which the phone was damaged but Dylan was fine when MR left for his errands on Monday.
Why would he text the phone in this scenario, if he knew it wasn't operational?

 

[FruitTingles]

I am 21 next month and I watch an hour and a half of Spongebob Squarepants on Nickelodeon each morning
IMO, It is possible for a 13 year old to be watching the Nickelodeon channel. It doesn't necessarily mean he was watching "Nick Jnr" which has the TV shows for 'very little kids' in which my 3 year old niece enjoys.

:twocents:

 

[Indy Anna]

IF dad damaged the phone and worse he would want it to appear that "life was normal" and have an alibi created. Dad would continue to text, call, go to appointments etc... until Dylan was "discovered" missing.

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IMO, not unless dad had done something more sinister than damage a phone. Why cover your tracks beforehand if you don't know you're son is going to disappear?

 

[jjenny]

I am 21 next month and I watch an hour and a half of Spongebob Squarepants on Nickelodeon each morning
IMO, It is possible for a 13 year old to be watching the Nickelodeon channel. It doesn't necessarily mean he was watching "Nick Jnr" which has the TV shows for 'very little kids' in which my 3 year old niece enjoys.

:twocents:

I agree, it is possible, but we only have MR's word that it happened at all.
Even if TV was left on when police showed up, it still doesn't prove Dylan was the one watching it to begin with.

 

[Seajay]

The problem I have with the idea of MR hiding Dylan to keep him from ER is why he would choose to employ the scheme within 12-15 hours of Dylan's visit. I don't know when Dylan was scheduled to return to CS but, assuming it was Saturday, wouldn't MR wait until Friday (the day before Dylan was scheduled to leave) and establish an alibi then? Most parental abductions do happen at the end of a visit when the parent fails to return the child to the other parent. MOO

Correct. But that didn't happen, Dylan didn't get to spend that time with MR. Or rather MR didn't get to spend that time with Dylan. So if he was disappeared in the beginning, it would make no sense for it to be Dad. Now on the other hand, there reverse could be true since he disappeared at the beginning of the visit.

 

[Seajay]

That WE know of... and if LE knows they sure wouldn't tell us!

That we know of, or even that LE knows about. Could be.

 

[Ransom]

THANKS! I updated the timeline and will have VASportsmom repost soon...

Good deal.

 

[Indy Anna]

Correct. But that didn't happen, Dylan didn't get to spend that time with MR. Or rather MR didn't get to spend that time with Dylan. So if he was disappeared in the beginning, it would make no sense for it to be Dad. Now on the other hand, there reverse could be true since he disappeared at the beginning of the visit.

Unless dad did something to Dylan in a fit of rage. I just don't think it's plausible that dad would have sent Dylan into hiding during his visit when they hadn't had much time to spend together. MOO

 

[tiredblondy]

Why would someone other than MR abduct Dylan and keep him in hiding? Do you think someone was trying to protect Dylan from his dad? If so, was Dylan afraid of his dad?

The problem I have with the idea of MR hiding Dylan to keep him from ER is why he would choose to employ the scheme within 12-15 hours of Dylan's visit. I don't know when Dylan was scheduled to return to CS but, assuming it was Saturday, wouldn't MR wait until Friday (the day before Dylan was scheduled to leave) and establish an alibi then? Most parental abductions do happen at the end of a visit when the parent fails to return the child to the other parent. But, if LE could verify from Dylan's friends that Dylan's visit with his dad was positive and with no forensic evidence to point to foul play, I think there would be less suspicion on MR in that case.

I would love to think that Dylan is hidden away somewhere safe and warm by friends, having the adventure of a lifetime. That's what I first suspected when I read about this case in the news. But, I think with all of the publicity, and knowing how devastated ER and CR are, that someone would have come forward by now.
MOO

I honestly don't think MR knows.

Remember this is just my train of thinking. I have to be able to rule out the planned disappearance or an outright abduction before I can consider MR at all. With what we know I cannot do that, no matter we thought at first and ER's verbal accusations.

When MR hired an attorney, it was stated in some article that he said he had hired an attorney to "watch his back". Think about that statement.

He has cooperated fully with LE, all his interviews were without an attorney and LE has never said, as they have in other cases when someone hires an attorney, we would like to talk to MR again. They have stated he is fully cooperating.I think if he was a suspect he would still be at the police station or there a whole lot more!

As far as this possibly being set up by kids, maybe they never expected all the publicity/media and now don't know what to do?


I cannot begin to fathom the why's but if what I think is true I hope there are dire consequences if any adults are involved no matter which of my scenarios listed above.

But if I am wrong I will eat my crow stew just as happily as I'm sitting on my fence...

strange case, strange LE response

 

[Eileen730]

We are discussing the scenario in which the phone was damaged but Dylan was fine when MR left for his errands on Monday.
Why would he text the phone in this scenario, if he knew it wasn't operational?

Well why wouldnt he hop on the computer at Dads house or use the phone to call his friends. Use dads cell phone to call them I think u can text with an ipod cant you or use social media.

He went off the radar sunday at 8pm as i see it!

 

[tiredblondy]

Dylan didn't even know he was going to be there on Monday until late Sunday, when his father told him it was too late to go to his friends at Bayfield. How was he going to pre-arrange anything?

He was planning to stay several days there. If he had another phone why couldn't he have set it up?

I cannot rule it out. I'm only coming from my perspective. I respect everyone's ideas and theories, mine is just still not focused on MR. Gotta go..

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I am just catching up, but saw the new article about nothing being found in MR's home. Glad they noted that he is still being cooperative. He may have shut down some to the media, but looks like he's still talking openly with LE. That's good, with the report of hiring an attorney, I was worried he'd clam up. I know it's unpopular to say anything positive, but that's one thing he's doing as I'd expect of him.

 

[jdmyangel]

Remember the flight was delayed for engine problems or something like that so DR came on sunday instead of a day or 2 before like MR was originally expecting him--therefore imo i could see that DR had plans to meet up with his friends Monday already before he left (since he was coming to see his dad earlier before the plane problems and change of flight)-maybe DR already had those plans in the works while at moms house, who knows-maybe DR thought since they might go near where his friends lived he'd try and slip in and have dad drop him off sunday night instead---and MR decides no and wanted to spend the evening whatever with his son--this also makes sense to me of why MR would have scheduled all his "errands" for Monday morning--he himself came into town a few days earlier--wasnt expecting Monday to be the first day with is son--but with the plane delay it was--however, MR already had the errands set up--i think that was good planning because DR was to be at his friends, and MR get his errands done so that he can spend the rest of the week with his son
all my opinion only (and i hope that doesnt sound like too much babble)

 

[gngr~snap]

I am 21 next month and I watch an hour and a half of Spongebob Squarepants on Nickelodeon each morning
IMO, It is possible for a 13 year old to be watching the Nickelodeon channel. It doesn't necessarily mean he was watching "Nick Jnr" which has the TV shows for 'very little kids' in which my 3 year old niece enjoys.

:twocents:

Good! I see you have a lil miss due!
Congrats! keep watching those cartoons... and in April you will have
even more reasons to watch!

I like SpongeBob too... But I am not a pre-pubescent testosterone elevating young male...

Who maybe did still like cartoons! I dunno! :twocents:


(I too will watch Blue and Dora MAYBE even "Barney" again...someday hopefully sooner than later... WHEN I have grandkids!)

The break was NICE!

 

[azgrandma]

Curious about this line of thought. So, if he obtained one (which I am assuming he could have done at any grocery store so he could have a "cooler" phone than his parents allowed) wouldn't his friends have that new number or mention to LE that Dylan called from two numbers?

Wondering what the theories are behind this.

I don't think he could get anything, not even a pay as you go phone because of his age. IDK

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Yes .. Yogi had a good scent article. They can track in amazing conditions with amazing results if they have a GOOD SCENT ARTICLE.

You can't explain to a dog WHICH scent to take off of a couch. But given a SPECIFIC scent .. dogs can track with amazing accuracy..

imo

I would have loved to see bloodhounds used both with the house as a starting point and Walmart as another. I think that would have been really good for the investigation on days 1-5!

 

[ICUDOUCME]

Remember the flight was delayed for engine problems or something like that so DR came on sunday instead of a day or 2 before like MR was originally expecting him--therefore imo i could see that DR had plans to meet up with his friends Monday already before he left (since he was coming to see his dad earlier before the plane problems and change of flight)-maybe DR already had those plans in the works while at moms house, who knows-maybe DR thought since they might go near where his friends lived he'd try and slip in and have dad drop him off sunday night instead---and MR decides no and wanted to spend the evening whatever with his son--this also makes sense to me of why MR would have scheduled all his "errands" for Monday morning--he himself came into town a few days earlier--wasnt expecting Monday to be the first day with is son--but with the plane delay it was--however, MR already had the errands set up--i think that was good planning because DR was to be at his friends, and MR get his errands done so that he can spend the rest of the week with his son
all my opinion only (and i hope that doesnt sound like too much babble)

I have to say your way of thinking does actually make good sense of how on earth MR would make appointments with his attorney and whatever else. It explains alot.

 

[jjenny]

I have to say your way of thinking does actually make good sense of how on earth MR would make appointments with his attorney and whatever else. It explains alot.

As far as I can tell, we don't know when exactly MR made this lawyer appointment.