CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #15

[jjenny]

Considering he did text her the night before to tell her that he arrived, why would she be concerned that he didn't text her in the morning? And I am pretty sure his friends claim that they did text him when he didn't show up on Monday. And why would his friends be concerned about him Sunday night? He did text them to let them known he won't be there Sunday.
And made plans for Monday instead.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

quibbling about the meaning of 'tech savvy' doesn't help us find Dylan, the definition of it can be different to each of us.

IMO we need to think age appropriate he knew how to send texts, use the computer and probably a variety of games, thats very tech savvy compared to someone who doesn't understand how to use a computer or who doesn't use a cell phone

 

[Indy Anna]

Here is the reference to the cadaver dogs following a scent to the lake:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...r-colorado-boy-who-vanished-during-dad-visit/

Police and volunteers searched a Colorado lake for a 13-year-old boy after cadaver dogs picked up a scent that led them to the edge of the water.
But the latest development in the week-long hunt Dylan Redwine failed to find the boy or his body.
Seven divers from New Mexico State Police searched Vallecito Lake through the weekend after the dogs followed the scent to the lake, according to KMGH.


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BBM

 

[SmoothOperator]

Smoking doesn't have to mean it burst into flames. I know that the cell phone I had would get extremely hot after just a few minutes of use. I didn't use it much, but my son had used it for a couple years before he got a different phone and carrier.

Nope smoking does not mean that it burst into flames and that was not my conclusion drawn..the only reason that I made any reference to flames was from reading mck16's post stating such(since my last post I believe she did reply that she agreed that the metaphor used was likely to NOT have been meant literally).. but it was not my conclusion drawn as to why I referenced flames..

Regardless I stand firmly by my opinion that the cell phone never had any smoke coming from it while the child had been texting..jmo.. and that the entire reference to smoking was clearly just a metaphor used to describe her son's burning up his cell phone with an immense amount of texting back and forth(which we all know for many teens is absolutely "the norm")..

 

[Confusion]

Considering he did text her the night before to tell her that he arrived, why would she be concerned that he didn't text her in the morning? And I am pretty sure his friends claim that they did text him when he didn't show up on Monday. And why would his friends be concerned about him Sunday night? He did text them to let them known he won't be there Sunday.
And made plans for Monday instead.

She said she sent a text to him asking if he was there and if his dad picked him up. He responded with Yes. As far as she knew, from what she said, he was going to spend Sunday night with a friend, so he should have sent a text saying which house he'd be sleeping at. If there's been anything published that says that his friends were concerned because he hadn't called or texted them I'd like to see it - do you have a link? TIA

 

[Seajay]

She said that he always sent a text to tell her where he had landed for the night, and he'd text her in the morning if he was up too late or didn't text the night before for some reason. If that is true, then why hadn't she called to check on him when she still hadn't heard from him after 4:30 pm? If he was constantly texting with his friends, why weren't they concerned about him Sunday night and why didn't they say they were concerned when he didn't text them that morning? Maybe he didn't text as much as she thought/said.

I have a friend who always said that to her someone was tech savvy if they knew how to set the clock on her vcr. We're almost to the point now where kids would say, "What's a vcr?"


She used past tense one of the first times she spoke to the press.


I don't think she knows what being tech savvy entails, or she wouldn't equate it to constantly sending texts or playing games on the computer.


Definitely

BBM: He couldn't have been texting and playing games all the time, he had to go to school at some point in there so he had to have long periods of time where he wasn't texting and playing games and stuff.

The term tech savvy is suggestive. To one person it could mean knowing their way around a computer and cell phone, to another it could be programming a computer and getting into the operating system and being able to contact NASA on a cell phone. It's subjective. To someone who knows less about electronics, someone who knows more would be considered "tech savvy." To someone who knows a lot about electronics, tech savvy to them could mean a rocket scientist.

 

[KALI]

If Dylan is still alive, I Think that would be a near miracle.
We are looking at three weeks, with nothing.
Something bad happened after he was picked up from the airport with his father and until 8 o'clock that night when his phone was no longer ever active. Period.
We may never know what happened to Dylan-but all odds and history point towards, he's no longer here on this earth.
My opinion.

 

[Salem]

Okay guys - don't start fighting and bickering now. It is late and everyone is getting tired and grumpy from the looks of it. Take it easy on each other. Explore the aspects of the case but don't try to convince anyone to see it your way, some will, some won't and other will think about it. Thinking will be the best part

Salem

 

[katydid23]

If scent dogs had trailed Dylan's scent trail from dad's house to the lake, we would have seen a very different investigation so far. I do not believe that ever happened. JMO

 

[mck16]

BBM: He couldn't have been texting and playing games all the time, he had to go to school at some point in there so he had to have long periods of time where he wasn't texting and playing games and stuff.

The term tech savvy is suggestive. To one person it could mean knowing their way around a computer and cell phone, to another it could be programming a computer and getting into the operating system and being able to contact NASA on a cell phone. It's subjective. To someone who knows less about electronics, someone who knows more would be considered "tech savvy." To someone who knows a lot about electronics, tech savvy to them could mean a rocket scientist.

You are right. She could have thought DR was tech savy, because she was not. If he had several FB accounts as some have said and commented that it was for the purpose of gaining points on FB games, she could think that made him tech savy. I consider myself tech savy, but I don't know how to set up accounts on FB to gain points for games. As you said there are many areas to be tech savy or expert in. jmo

 

[kkdj]

I have 2 tech savvy kids, 3 tech savvy grandkids, relevant according to their ages.
My son earns a great living with it, my daughter uses it in her industry, my first grandson looks up everything in the whole wide world, the other two look up homework, games, gifts, fashion, etc.
And all of them are outdoorsy....fishing, surfing, hiking, swimming, boating, camping, off roadi g, motorcycling, atving, you name it!

 

[Confusion]

quibbling about the meaning of 'tech savvy' doesn't help us find Dylan, the definition of it can be different to each of us.

IMO we need to think age appropriate he knew how to send texts, use the computer and probably a variety of games, thats very tech savvy compared to someone who doesn't understand how to use a computer or who doesn't use a cell phone

That sounds like it would be "tech savvy" to someone who probably used computers at work at least half the day, and is constantly sending and receiving texts from her son on her cell phone. When my sons were 13, I would have considered them to be tech-savvy. The older one had taught himself 3 programming languages by that age, knew how to find and use proxy servers (before the internet had been invented), and a lot of other things I had no idea how to do. The younger one wrote his first computer program before he started kindergarten; it was very simple, but it worked. Before he was 3, he could find the cassette with a game he wanted to play, put it in the player, load it, run it and play games, make music or pictures, and practice typing. By 13, he had helped me build one of his computers, was able to upgrade memory in it, replaced the modem and other repairs. I won't even start with the things they can do now that they're adults. Yes, tech savvy is relative.

 

[mck16]

If scent dogs had trailed Dylan's scent trail from dad's house to the lake, we would have seen a very different investigation so far. I do not believe that ever happened. JMO

I have not seen where anyone said they trailed DR's scent from dad's house. As a matter of fact there has been no report where they trailed it from only that they trailed it to the lake. Where did they pick it up I would like to know. jmo

 

[mck16]

That sounds like it would be "tech savvy" to someone who probably used computers at work at least half the day, and is constantly sending and receiving texts from her son on her cell phone. When my sons were 13, I would have considered them to be tech-savvy. The older one had taught himself 3 programming languages by that age, knew how to find and use proxy servers (before the internet had been invented), and a lot of other things I had no idea how to do. The younger one wrote his first computer program before he started kindergarten; it was very simple, but it worked. Before he was 3, he could find the cassette with a game he wanted to play, put it in the player, load it, run it and play games, make music or pictures, and practice typing. By 13, he had helped me build one of his computers, was able to upgrade memory in it, replaced the modem and other repairs. I won't even start with the things they can do now that they're adults. Yes, tech savvy is relative.

They are definitely tech savy. jmo

 

[kkdj]

Football, dancing, wrestling, gymnastics, etc.
And all are tech savvy, related to their age.

 

[momrids6]

Some interesting facts about the Redwine family. Elaine Redwine inherited their home near the Vallecito Reseivour.
During the time frame of the divorce of Elaine and Markn she sold said home to Mark for a very nominal amount, less than 20 dollars. He became the sole owner. She completed this action with a "quit claim" deed. Mark hired a restoration company for the home, at a later point in time the restoration company put a lien on the home for work that he did not pay for.
So where and how did I find this, easy, La Plata County records. Many legal transactions are a matter of public record.
So how would these facts figure into the current case, well not too much. But anyone quit claiming a deed to a home is could be very kind or desperate to sever all contact with the other party. Or there are many other possible reasons. It is a reflection of the relationship that Mark and Elaine had and could have some bearing on their missing child.

If you look at the same website, before that home was sold, there was a lien on the property.

 

[tiredblondy]

Well we could discuss what might be in his backpack?

This is what I think

Hoodie
1 pr jeans
long sleeved shirt
1 pr socks
underwear



:fence:

 

[Indy Anna]

I have not seen where anyone said they trailed DR's scent from dad's house. As a matter of fact there has been no report where they trailed it from only that they trailed it to the lake. Where did they pick it up I would like to know. jmo

Agreed, there's so little information about the trail the dogs followed. We discussed earlier that the scent they followed was not Dylan's specifically (that was before LE requested ER to bring articles of D's clothing from home), and the dogs were cadaver dogs, not tracking dogs, so they were picking up a scent of decomp. Most of the news articles I can find telling about the dogs said that they picked up a scent near the lake/dam or tell about the hits over the lake.

Question: Why were cadaver dogs used early on and tracking dogs not used?

ETA: There may have been SAR dogs searching at the beginning, too. At least, I guess that's what this means:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-bo...-disappearance/story?id=17813458#.UMhBm6xklM8

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"We had people in the air, on horseback, on ATVs, search dogs, and we got no clues from any of that," Bender said.
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This was from Nov. 26
Wish we had clarification on the dogs.

 

[Confusion]

Okay, I think I understand how it works now (I did go back and read the rules again. I hope I understood them correctly).

If you want to know more about the scent dogs (not cadaver dogs) tracking from MR's house, this page might help. The entry from Nov 21st.

Prayer Vigil for Dylan Redwine

 

[asyousay]

Most teenagers are tech savvy today. They are raised around computers and using mobile phones and so on.

Of course i am from the U.K so it could be different in tiny little towns in the U.S but i would not of thought so.

IMO