CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #15

[Confusion]

Most teenagers are tech savvy today. They are raised around computers and using mobile phones and so on.

Of course i am from the U.K so it could be different in tiny little towns in the U.S but i would not of thought so.

IMO

As I said, it is relative (I think someone else said it first). My 30 year old was raised on computers; he started at about 18 months playing games with his big brother. I think I may have said this somewhere here once before, but by the time he was about 2.5 years old if you asked him how to spell run, he'd say, "R-U-N enter!" A couple of my nieces also have kids who started around that age, although most that I know don't start until they're in school. I do know 13 year olds who barely know how to turn a computer on because they only use them in school and don't have to know much, but some of them can type a text faster on a phone than a lot of people can on a computer keyboard. I also knew one a few years ago who was amazed when the batteries went dead in his grandmother's remote and she changed the channel manually. He didn't know it could be done that way.

 

[FruitTingles]

Well we could discuss what might be in his backpack?

This is what I think

Hoodie
1 pr jeans
long sleeved shirt
1 pr socks
underwear



:fence:

If only we had something confirmed, just anything to go on

 

[tiredblondy]

Okay, I think I understand how it works now (I did go back and read the rules again. I hope I understood them correctly).

If you want to know more about the scent dogs (not cadaver dogs) tracking from MR's house, this page might help. The entry from Nov 21st.

Prayer Vigil for Dylan Redwine

Thanks so much. That was very informative! Nite all.

 

[Seajay]

I have 2 tech savvy kids, 3 tech savvy grandkids, relevant according to their ages.
My son earns a great living with it, my daughter uses it in her industry, my first grandson looks up everything in the whole wide world, the other two look up homework, games, gifts, fashion, etc.
And all of them are outdoorsy....fishing, surfing, hiking, swimming, boating, camping, off roadi g, motorcycling, atving, you name it!

My 3 year old granddaughter is "tech savvy." She taught me how to play Angry Birds. I played for about 2 months and couldn't get past the first level. One day I was playing when this 9 year old girl asked me if I was playing Angry Birds, I told her yeh, but I couldn't get past the first level. I told her my granddaughter taught me how to play but I didn't understand the concept of the game cuz she didn't explain it to me. The 9 year old girl says, "You gotta kill the pigs." I was like WHAT?? So I started aiming for the pigs and sure as shootin, I passed the first level. My 3 year old granddaughter did not tell me that part. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Allusonz]

Okay, I think I understand how it works now (I did go back and read the rules again. I hope I understood them correctly).

If you want to know more about the scent dogs (not cadaver dogs) tracking from MR's house, this page might help. The entry from Nov 21st.

Prayer Vigil for Dylan Redwine

So they are stating that he was tracked to these intersecting roads.

I had felt it odd that if they had not had an item for scent that they would of had someone retrieve an item immediately not 6 days later.

 

[Allusonz]

As I said, it is relative (I think someone else said it first). My 30 year old was raised on computers; he started at about 18 months playing games with his big brother. I think I may have said this somewhere here once before, but by the time he was about 2.5 years old if you asked him how to spell run, he'd say, "R-U-N enter!" A couple of my nieces also have kids who started around that age, although most that I know don't start until they're in school. I do know 13 year olds who barely know how to turn a computer on because they only use them in school and don't have to know much, but some of them can type a text faster on a phone than a lot of people can on a computer keyboard. I also knew one a few years ago who was amazed when the batteries went dead in his grandmother's remote and she changed the channel manually. He didn't know it could be done that way.

ER works as a financial aid office for a university/college. I would think under those conditions, and knowing the IT programs the way I do, that a financial aid officer would define someone as tech savvy if they understood the workings of computers. For example building, fixing, working with servers, programming much like you have stated above.

Dylan did not have his cell phone in the pictures of either the airport or walmart which I found odd.

I was concerned when my children were texting at 4000 texts a day and felt they were not involved in other things enough. I could not even imagine texting 10k or 30k texts in a month.

 

[Confusion]

So they are stating that he was tracked to these intersecting roads.

I had felt it odd that if they had not had an item for scent that they would of had someone retrieve an item immediately not 6 days later.

They also believed he had met someone who picked him up there, until he didn't contact anyone for so long.

 

[katydid23]

So they are stating that he was tracked to these intersecting roads.

I had felt it odd that if they had not had an item for scent that they would of had someone retrieve an item immediately not 6 days later.

I had read,[ and I hope someone recognizes this, so I can find where I first heard it,] that they had tracked ' a scent' in his neighborhood, but because they did not have any 'proper' scent items, they were not sure if it was verifiable. In other words, they may have used something that was not worn by him recently or was touched by others as well. And that is why ER was asked to bring items from home to use.

I am not too confident that they are certain about that scent trail at that intersection, because they have not focused a search there, or asked the public if they saw anything on that corner that morning, etc.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

They also believed he had met someone who picked him up there, until he didn't contact anyone for so long.

But what were they using as a source for Dylan's scent? That same article said Dylan took ALL of his belongings with him. And if he slept on the couch, then his bedding would have cross contamination.

So I don't know what they used for the dogs to follow his scent. I think they were just using a less than perfect item, because they did not have a proper source.

 

[Allusonz]

I had read,[ and I hope someone recognizes this, so I can find where I first heard it,] that they had tracked ' a scent' in his neighborhood, but because they did not have any 'proper' scent items, they were not sure if it was verifiable. In other words, they may have used something that was not worn by him recently or was touched by others as well. And that is why ER was asked to bring items from home to use.

I am not too confident that they are certain about that scent trail at that intersection, because they have not focused a search there, or asked the public if they saw anything on that corner that morning, etc.

JMO

I would still think that if they felt it was a contaminated item (ie not a clean scent item) that they would of easily been able to retrieve one.

Waiting 6 days to decide that the item was contaminated, would be a wast of not only LE resources, but any SAR dogs that may of been brought in.

For that matter they could of for all intents and purposes received permission for LE to retrieve something from the home of ER the first day, then it would be ready for the 2nd day. That is why am I am not personally convinced they did not have a good scent item.

As crazy as they may seem, the first thing that hit me was that LE wanted to take a quick peek at the home there. Very possible they wanted to confirm the trail, but then I think back to Benders' comments.

 

[Confusion]

I had read,[ and I hope someone recognizes this, so I can find where I first heard it,] that they had tracked ' a scent' in his neighborhood, but because they did not have any 'proper' scent items, they were not sure if it was verifiable. In other words, they may have used something that was not worn by him recently or was touched by others as well. And that is why ER was asked to bring items from home to use.

I am not too confident that they are certain about that scent trail at that intersection, because they have not focused a search there, or asked the public if they saw anything on that corner that morning, etc.

JMO

What they told her (they being one of the detectives) is that they lost his scent there. I'm not sure how they could lose it if they never had it. I don't know how they can release so little information and still have so many conflicting stories.

 

[katydid23]

What they told her (they being one of the detectives) is that they lost his scent there. I'm not sure how they could lose it if they never had it. I don't know how they can release so little information and still have so many conflicting stories.

But what did they use to track with?

 

[katydid23]

I would still think that if they felt it was a contaminated item (ie clean scent item) that they would of easily been able to retrieve one.

Waiting 6 days to decide that the item was contaminated, would be a wast of not only LE resources, but any SAR dogs that may of been brought in.

For that matter they could of for all intents and purposes received permission for LE to retrieve something from the home the first day, then it would be ready for the 2nd day. That is why am I am not personally convinced they did not have a good scent item.

As crazy as they may seem, the first thing that hit me was that LE wanted to take a quick peek at the home there. Very possible they wanted to confirm the trail, but then I think back to Benders' comments.

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But I don't think there was anything in the home that was suitable for a scent dog to use. They said that Dylan took all of his clothing with him. And if he slept on the couch, then that stuff was cross-contaminated. So what couyld they use for the dogs?

 

[Allusonz]

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But I don't think there was anything in the home that was suitable for a scent dog to use. They said that Dylan took all of his clothing with him. And if he slept on the couch, then that stuff was cross-contaminated. So what couyld they use for the dogs?

I don't recall LE stating that. I do recall ER making that statement. This would of been around the time they had the HRD dogs/sonar et al doing the lake searches.

 

[Confusion]

But what were they using as a source for Dylan's scent? That same article said Dylan took ALL of his belongings with him. And if he slept on the couch, then his bedding would have cross contamination.

So I don't know what they used for the dogs to follow his scent. I think they were just using a less than perfect item, because they did not have a proper source.

I only know what I read, and sometimes I'm not even sure about that. I can guess that they may have used the pillow he used (although it's probably not a clean scent if it's on the couch).

It does also say on there that for other reasons LE do/did not believe that someone had just tried to make it look like he took his stuff with him. It doesn't sound like they gave any clues to what else they knew that made them think that way.

 

[Confusion]

I don't recall LE stating that. I do recall ER making that statement. This would of been around the time they had the HRD dogs/sonar et al doing the lake searches.

Elaine said that she had to bring something from home, and I think it was on NG that clothes left at Mark's house were mentioned and she said she hadn't heard anything about them. She may have just assumed they needed something because they said he took everything with him. I find it all confusing and frustrating.

ETA: I think I remembered what the deal was, but I have no idea where I read it (I didn't see it on the prayer vigil page). I think I remember reading that they followed the scent for whatever distance and lost it, but weren't 100% sure it was HIS scent because they didn't have a clean scent to use. I think or MOO or something.

 

[Allusonz]

I only know what I read, and sometimes I'm not even sure about that. I can guess that they may have used the pillow he used (although it's probably not a clean scent if it's on the couch).

It does also say on there that for other reasons LE do/did not believe that someone had just tried to make it look like he took his stuff with him. It doesn't sound like they gave any clues to what else they knew that made them think that way.

Another observation.

I spend alot of time in the mountains, whether that is skiing watever.

Many times there are couches that can often be pulled out for sleeping, then it is pushed in again.

We must also remember that MR was away alot, which would not make this a typical home to my way of thinking with a million kids wandering in and out.

I have often wondered whether it was referred to as a couch (which it can be used for) but was also a pull out bed.

 

[Confusion]

I think I'm getting too close to 24 hours without sleep again. Maybe I'll go to bed and think about it more when my mind's halfway clear.

 

[Allusonz]

I think I'm getting too close to 24 hours without sleep again. Maybe I'll go to bed and think about it more when my mind's halfway clear.

Sleep Well. Think I am right behind you on that one. Was a long day today!

 

[katydid23]

I don't recall LE stating that. I do recall ER making that statement. This would of been around the time they had the HRD dogs/sonar et al doing the lake searches.

On the FB page, in the same paragraph, where they said the dogs lost a scent at that corner, the investigators also told her that ALL of Dylans belongings had been taken. So what could they have used for the scent dogs?