CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #17

[princessk]

Has it been said WHERE the last ping of the phone went off?

 

[Eileen730]

Have we ever heard LE confirm they were at McD's?

 

[Amster]

I am sure that your son does not have the same history as MR. Does your son have grown kids who are estranged from him? Has he been arrested for menacing and assault and child abuse? I doubt it. JMO

I would reply but why? Seems all the questions have been answered, all the hearsay declared the gospel truth, all the ex wives congratulated and adored and all non custodial parents......evil. (By the way, in Texas, the "non custodial" parent has just as many rights and responsibilities as the custodial parent. So, here at least, my son is not looked upon as inferior)

 

[Londonrraine]

Well now that's an interesting thought. Was it Dylan texting? I think ER would have an idea and I bet LE has asked that question.

You know I have thought quite a bit about Dylan hiding out. We are pretty sure he didn't want to be there and must have been mad he could not go to his friends right away.

Could he be somewhere...perhaps a cottage. I know...it sounds farfetched but it is the hope of finding him I hold onto.

Being a logical person probably a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of that happening.

I am sure if his friends knew they would be back and forth and LE would solve this mystery. Sigh...

I thought about this way back at the start. It was a text message. Could have been from anyone! It doesn't take genius to make a scornful face either.

It's hard for me to be objective in this case, i'm sorry to say. I've learned that divorce can bring out anger and hatred, beyond what I ever imagined possible. So...i'm keeping it all at bay.
On Friday, upon the news of Sandy Hooks' School shooting, I thought, "How awesome it would be for the world, for Dylan Redwine to appear on that day!" Now that's a miracle we all would love to see! And I hoped for that.
But,...I think I agree with Marc Klaas on this one.

 

[DylansMom34]

I think there is some feeling of absolutes and infkexibility on this thread. There are good NCP and good custodial parents. There are people who don't meet their obligations to their children and others who go above and beyond.

Are we focused on Dylans case only or are we pulling in feelings about someone in our llives who remind us of a person or situation in this caae?

So many people have said they are feeling attacked when they post. Can we all just not do that? This boy has everyone upset and we really all have these concerns for Dylan and whatever happened to him. Let's stop jumping on each other. I am going to try and do better for Dylan's sake.

 

[OtherEyes]

azgrandma...

I keep thinking of United Pipeline Systems where we now know MR works. When I looked at google maps, you can see that there appears to be long pipes and such outside on the grounds.
I know this may be an uncomfortable question but do you know if cadaver dogs were ever brought to sniff around all the many pipes out there? It's doubtful that MR would place him there but who knows if in a panic or not thinking clearly? IDK... Those pipes are so large.

Also this place of business is not far from the Nighthorse Reservoir. I keep thinking about that place as well as it is not yet used by the public from what I can recall and therefore may be a good spot to search as it would be known to MR being only 3.5 miles from his work site. I believe cadaver dogs need to search there as well.

I'm sorry if asking about cadaver dogs is sensitive but it should be done IMO. I would love nothing more than for Dylan to be alive! I just want him found soon!lease:

Distance from MR's workplace to nearest body of water only 3.5 miles away
http://goo.gl/maps/lqevI

Picture of pipes on grounds of work place
http://goo.gl/maps/4Px57

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

wow, what an extensive vacay. It seems odd now to me that he head zero plans for this thanksgiving week. I thought it was just because he wasn't the type to make plans or something. But I guess that's not the case.

But if you compare his way of dealing with his son's November visit, what a difference. He said ' maybe, they might go bowling one day' but other than that, he had nothing set up. They didnt even know what they were doing for Thanksgiving dinner, and that was the whole reason for the trip.

Also, didn't he once say that Dylan's plans to go to his friend's house " weren't set in stone" ? Because they do seem to be pretty solid plans after seeing the texts.

I would love to hear ER's (or someone who knows) version of this August "Trip to Paradise" to see if this really happened...

Or what did really happen...,anyway...

JMO

 

[Dee10]

Have we ever heard LE confirm they were at McD's?

No we haven't.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Although MR didn't tell us what Dylan did when he arrived at his house Sunday evening, ER said Dylan was in the habit of showering and dressing the night before, so he should have been ready to go Monday morning with his dad.

snipped

"Dylan was one of those kids that would take a shower and get dressed the night before and wake up the next morning and go to school already ready. But he didn’t like mornings. but he would always get up and go to school."

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/-1/news01&source=RSS

So there would have been towels.. Wash cloths... Maybe wet floor rugs for LE to use for dog searches?

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

But the phone was switched off at 8pm as that was the last ping so how could MR of seen the texts without the phone giving off a signal ???

I dont think MR ever looked at the phone.
I tend to think he smashed it! Or tossed it away!

All JMO

 

[TxJan1971]

Has it been said WHERE the last ping of the phone went off?

Not to my recollection... would love to know...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

For me personally this does not work for me .

As what are the odds that Dad does that and then Dylan is snatched ?

And if this did happen then why does MR not admit that he got angry and told Dylan to walk home ? , after all he is not guilty of anything besides losin his temper !

The odds are about the same as a boy disappearing from his non custodial parent who he hasn't seen in a few months...

JMO

 

[Darcyline]

The text messages really drove it home for me. I feel like you can read personality into them and it is just tragic when you can sense his friend becoming more and more concerned. I am seeing people saying the texts are fake, but it felt real to me on both sides. It just sucks.
Of course, the texts on Dylan's side stop pretty early so me thinking it was Dylan texting doesn't mean something didn't happen right after the last text.

 

[FootballMom]

ER never said this was a very old phone.

Ok - she didn't technically use the word "old" but it is certainly heavily implied, IMO...

REDWINE: "It`s extremely unusual for Dylan. I mean, you know, he wanted me to get him a smartphone so bad and in retrospect I wish I would have gotten him one quicker, but it was what I was going to get him for Christmas, what I`m going to get him for Christmas because he kind of outgrew his little -- his phone that he had. It was just a little flip phone. And he was just - - that thing was smoking by the time he was done."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

So then why not tell his dad ?

he had to keep in contact with his mum so if his phone stopped working then he would of had to have used the land-line or something and then would of meant speaking to MR you would of thought .

I get phones do break at inconvenient times but i do not buy him not whining to his dad that his phone has broken .

Perhaps he didn't know that it was dead until his dad had already gone to bed or left the next morning. If he didn't hear it ring or buzz he may not have even picked it up.

Not everyone checks their phone frequently to see if anyone has called or texted... some people do but even my prolific texting 15 year old son doesn't check his phone every 5 minutes. When my battery goes dead I don't always know it until many hours later after I realize I haven't heard from anyone for awhile. LOL

He may not have known his dad's cell phone or mom's work numbers by memory. I sometimes forget my own son's number and have to confirm it with him.

:fence:

 

[Dee10]

I dont think MR ever looked at the phone.
I tend to think he smashed it! Or tossed it away!

All JMO

I think smashed vs. turning-off. Turning it off would take patience. Throwing it out the window could have possibly damaged it to the point of shutting off. I think smashed is most likely. Just speculating on possibilities. I sincerely doubt the battery went dead forever.

 

[katydid23]

The text messages really drove it home for me. I feel like you can read personality into them and it is just tragic when you can sense his friend becoming more and more concerned. I am seeing people saying the texts are fake, but it felt real to me on both sides. It just sucks.
Of course, the texts on Dylan's side stop pretty early so me thinking it was Dylan texting doesn't mean something didn't happen right after the last text.

The texts feel real to me as well. I think Dylan really wanted to go to his friends house early the next morning. It makes me doubt dad's story that he was too tired to get up. Especially if he had been to bed early as stated. JMO

 

[mmmagique]

My son pays more child support than the court ordered. But, he's a dad so I guess that doesn't count. Really, really and truly, there are dads that are loving and responsible. My son has gone through pure hell dealing with his divorce. He adores his son, my grandson.....excuse me for not putting ex wives on pedestals or condemning all dads to hell. This is why I don't post much on this thread.

My brother also paid about double what actual support would have been. He basically made himself homeless doing so.

Remember, it's not always dads who are the NCPs. That door swings both ways.

 

[katydid23]

Ok - she didn't technically use the word "old" but it is certainly heavily implied, IMO...

REDWINE: "It`s extremely unusual for Dylan. I mean, you know, he wanted me to get him a smartphone so bad and in retrospect I wish I would have gotten him one quicker, but it was what I was going to get him for Christmas, what I`m going to get him for Christmas because he kind of outgrew his little -- his phone that he had. It was just a little flip phone. And he was just - - that thing was smoking by the time he was done."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html


Perhaps he didn't know that it was dead until his dad had already gone to bed or left the next morning. If he didn't hear it ring or buzz he may not have even picked it up.

Not everyone checks their phone frequently to see if anyone has called or texted... some people do but even my prolific texting 15 year old son doesn't check his phone every 5 minutes. When my battery goes dead I don't always know it until many hours later after I realize I haven't heard from anyone for awhile. LOL

He may not have known his dad's cell phone or mom's work numbers by memory. I sometimes forget my own son's number and have to confirm it with him.

:fence:

OK. so going with this scenario, his cell is dead. So what happens that morning when he gets up to eat his cereal? Does he check his phone then?

If it is dead, why doesn't he just plug it into the charger?

And if he needs to know the other numbers, he can see them if it is plugged in and charging, right?

So what happened to him?

 

[asyousay]

"if" MR did hurt Dylan what are the legal ramifications for Elaine and the judges that gave visitation rights?

Can anybody let me know if they are also be accountable for this if Dylan and Elaine both stated they did not want Dylan near 'MR'?!


Sorry If I have this wrong but I thought in a earlier thread I read that Dylan did not want to go and visit dad .

 

[mijamawi]

Hypothetical.....If there was something posted in MSM about, say ER, would we then be allowed to sleuth further?