CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #17

[shefner]

I think it looks like Dylan took some kind of hit to the eye in his baseball photo...but you know boys. It could be anything...a stray pitch, a fight with brother, a skateboard crash...you name it.

 

[white rabbit]

I just have to ask this question. Why is it so very difficult for some people to take a hard look at MR? I mean, really. There are at least 100 "possibilities" but they would ALL have to tie into each other in order to suggest that it could remotely happen the way some are attempting to explain it. Don't some of you find that mighty strange? Almost beyond the law of averages? Like, what if it was your 16-yr old kid who left at 9pm to go to the corner store and then came home at 3:00 am, with his clothes all messed up, an empty tank of gas (that was full when he left) accompanied by a "friend" and gave you a mile long list of explanations that would take you less than a minute to figure out were BS about what happened? The pieces don't fit. Your instincts tell you he is giving you a line of BS.....do you continue to fall in line and make excuses for his excuses? Or are you going to say enough is enough and call him on the BS?

what you and lotuspawprint said.

 

[shefner]

what you and lotuspawprint said.

Yeah...what y'all said.

 

[i8mypaint]

Okay, let's go with the phone died at around 8 pm on Sunday night.

1. Why didn't Dylan use his dad's phone to call/text his mom?
2. Why didn't Dylan use the computer to communicate with his friends?
3. Why didn't his dad get him a phone when he was out running his errands?
4. Why hasn't his dad mentioned the phone dying at all?

Okay, let's go with he wouldn't get up to go with his dad; when he did wake up and lounging around watching TV and eating cereal, he realizes his phone had bit the dust.

1. Why didn't Dylan use the computer to communicate with his friends?
2. Why didn't Dylan use the computer to communicate with his mom to see what he should do about his phone?
3. Why didn't Dylan wait on his dad and tell him about his phone?

I have a hard time with no phone activity or computer activity...maybe one but not both......just saying

Because he wasn't there....

 

[Kamille]

Have we seen this news video where at the end the reporter says that MR told them that investigators took a pair of Dylan's sweatpants, his Ipod and a Nerf football that he says they were tossing around on Sunday night?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfADjrfpFo"]Dylan's dad talks - YouTube[/ame]

 

[catswhiskers]

I just have to ask this question. Why is it so very difficult for some people to take a hard look at MR? I mean, really. There are at least 100 "possibilities" but they would ALL have to tie into each other in order to suggest that it could remotely happen the way some are attempting to explain it. Don't some of you find that mighty strange? Almost beyond the law of averages? Like, what if it was your 16-yr old kid who left at 9pm to go to the corner store and then came home at 3:00 am, with his clothes all messed up, an empty tank of gas (that was full when he left) accompanied by a "friend" and gave you a mile long list of explanations that would take you less than a minute to figure out were BS about what happened? The pieces don't fit. Your instincts tell you he is giving you a line of BS.....do you continue to fall in line and make excuses for his excuses? Or are you going to say enough is enough and call him on the BS?

BBM
Please don't assume that some of us aren't/haven't. We are all seeing the same information here - isn't it reasonable or even expected that thinking people can see things from different perspectives - given that none of us know what the truth actually is?
I'm feel I am one of the few people here you could be referring to - maybe not. But I am just respectfully tossing around other options that I see could be viable. I haven't posted angrily or ridiculed anyone else's ideas - even if I have been able to see what I think is a more logical alternative.

Sometimes we reach a point where without more info from LE, all we can offer to a discussion like this is how we would act, or in this case how our own families would act. I have a 13yo son, and another who has passed that age, plus an ex-husband, so have also drawn on my own experiences when thinking things through. I have also been a teacher for close to 30 years, and probably draw on that knowledge of kids and other families too.

Surely it doesn't wreck the whole discussion for others if there are even just a few people who don't mind continuing to follow different lines of enquiry and actively express those ideas or opinions here? Call me stubborn, but I am trying very hard to not just feel pressured into quitting the discussion because others feel I have nothing to offer.

 

[TxJan1971]

Have we seen this news video where at the end the reporter says that MR told them that investigators took a pair of Dylan's sweatpants, his Ipod and a Nerf football that he says they were tossing around on Sunday night?

Dylan's dad talks - YouTube

No. But thanks for sharing!!!!

 

[i8mypaint]

Have we seen this news video where at the end the reporter says that MR told them that investigators took a pair of Dylan's sweatpants, his Ipod and a Nerf football that he says they were tossing around on Sunday night?

Dylan's dad talks - YouTube

What?!?

 

[catswhiskers]

Have we seen this news video where at the end the reporter says that MR told them that investigators took a pair of Dylan's sweatpants, his Ipod and a Nerf football that he says they were tossing around on Sunday night?

I can't say that I have heard about the trackpants or the nerf football before this :waitasec:

 

[FootballMom]

I know what you are saying; I just do not believe that Dylan would not have told his father if it happened at 8pm, when phone usage ceased OR that Dylan would not have noticed that his phone had died as he was not done using it for the day, IMO. I do not believe that Dylan's phone died and he fell fast asleep for up to 12 hours at exactly the same moment. And to me, that is what would have had to happen, for him not to know if his phone was broken.

Sigh... it isn't just you... It seems like when I clarify one thing the other things I've clarified or stated previously get lost or forgotten in the meantime.

Ok... Dylan's phone/battery dies (for REAL dies).

Most people would assume their battery just needs to be charged so they will plug it in and wait for it to charge.

Most people know that it may not turn on for awhile so they don't bother trying it.

Most people don't check their phone every 5 minutes.

Going on the theory that the phone/battery died (like for REAL died)... we do not know what time that may have happened.

It could have happened at 8pm, 9pm 10pm, 11pm...1am, 3am, etc... but it's ultimate diagnosis was not determined until the next day (after dad left).

AND going back to my earlier post about assuming something nefarious by a parent who wants to spend time with their child they rarely get to see...

If dad had asked, "Dylan, please turn off the phone/put it away so we can spend some time together."

Then some folks might be saying, "AHA! How convenient for him to say that." If I was being accused by the public of my son's disappearance I'd be very scared to admit I asked him to shut off his phone after finding out it NEVER turned back on again.

If Dylan hadn't disappeared then the trip to Walmart, not wanting Dylan to go to his friends that night, the fishing pole, and asking him to turn off/put away the phone would likely be perceived in an entirely different light. Some might even say that he was making an effort to spend time with his son.

God I really hate to belabor the phone/battery point any further but I have actually had a couple of phones/batteries die under very similar circumstances. They either lost a charge completely and never turned on again or I turned them off myself but they wouldn't turn on again. Yes, between my son and I we have been through a number of cell phones.

I have no problem exploring the possibility that dad may have been involved but IMO there are even less who are exploring the possibility that he was not involved... but to be perfectly honest - I personally just have not seen anything concrete that would be enough to convince me that he was involved.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Have we seen this news video where at the end the reporter says that MR told them that investigators took a pair of Dylan's sweatpants, his Ipod and a Nerf football that he says they were tossing around on Sunday night?

What? Where were they throwing the nerf football around? I suppose it could have been in the house if this were true. But what could that prove or disprove?

 

[gngr~snap]

Oh OK! LOL I didn't get exactly what you meant.:floorlaugh:

If it died...like forever....then I think he would have definitely let his dad know. His dad had a house phone...and internet. I think Dylan would have freaked without that phone.

IMo if his phone died, died he would have called mama promptly freaking out!
whatever time of day or night.

 

[scorekeeper]

Oh OK! LOL I didn't get exactly what you meant.:floorlaugh:

If it died...like forever....then I think he would have definitely let his dad know. His dad had a house phone...and internet. I think Dylan would have freaked without that phone.

No doubt!! He would have been on the computer asking his friends if they had any old phone he could use/buy. I don't know how many phones my daughter bought in high school because she "broke" hers!

I also have a phone drawer - all the old phones go in there to be used when others "break/die".

Also, since dad presented a "non-eventful evening" (didn't say Dylan was upset about not seeing his friends Sunday night), why wouldn't he tell his dad about his phone? Or why wouldn't he use his dad's phone to call his mom?

Or why wouldn't he use the computer?

There's a big gap of story-telling time in dad's story....he didn't say a word about what they did when they got to his house....he only had the morning story (which he had all night to come up with...)

JMO

I agree with NC - his story has enough holes in it to be swiss cheese :seeya:

 

[Angelonline]

Could even be allergies. My daughter and grandson get dark circles under their eyes from allergies.

I'm thinking allergies as well.

 

[gngr~snap]

No doubt!! He would have been on the computer asking his friends if they had any old phone he could use/buy. I don't know how many phones my daughter bought in high school because she "broke" hers!

I also have a phone drawer - all the old phones go in there to be used when others "break/die".

Also, since dad presented a "non-eventful evening" (didn't say Dylan was upset about not seeing his friends Sunday night), why wouldn't he tell his dad about his phone? Or why wouldn't he use his dad's phone to call his mom?

Or why wouldn't he use the computer?

There's a big gap of story-telling time in dad's story....he didn't say a word about what they did when they got to his house....he only had the morning story (which he had all night to come up with...)

JMO

I agree with NC - his story has enough holes in it to be swiss cheese :seeya:

or as many as FISH net stockings....:seeya:

 

[ttcRider]

Have we seen this news video where at the end the reporter says that MR told them that investigators took a pair of Dylan's sweatpants, his Ipod and a Nerf football that he says they were tossing around on Sunday night?

Dylan's dad talks - YouTube

Not directed at you Kamille, I know you are just the messenger. LOL
How do you toss around a football in the dark?? :waitasec: ..besides, I thought he was tired from being up so late the night before and went straight to bed??

 

[Angelonline]

IMO MR keeps adding to the story and each time his story becomes more improbable to me. Also if Dylan were up tossing the football with dad then why didn't he notice his phone was broken? Did they toss it around in doors? Did they toss it in the dark? Sometimes I even wonder if MR or someone close to him is reading here because he keeps answering questions we have asked. Too bad the answers have all sent my hinky meter into orbit.....

 

[LotusPawprint]

Have we seen this news video where at the end the reporter says that MR told them that investigators took a pair of Dylan's sweatpants, his Ipod and a Nerf football that he says they were tossing around on Sunday night?

Dylan's dad talks - YouTube

No! Thank you for sharing.

So... he had sweatpants. Why wasn't he wearing those on that cold Monday morning?

That video was published on Nov. 30th (Thurs). Which was the day of the search warrant too. Do we think the investigators took Dylan's sweatpants, iPod, and football initially when they looked in the house after he went missing or after the search warrant?

Was this the iPod we heard was taken out from the search warrant? Why wouldn't Dylan have the iPod in his bag if he set out to wherever he was going (hitching a ride to his friends, fishing, etc)?

 

[Crosby87]

I have thought that Dylan looks a little dark around the eyes in a few of his photos - especially the first ones released on his Missing poster (with the shorter haircut). I figured this is just his colouring/complexion rather than injuries.
:moo:

No, I enlarged the picture and Dylan definitely has a black eye. His left eye is swollen and in the top left hand corner, you can see yellow so his eye is bruised.

When you enlarge the photo in this link, you can see it very clearly.

http://durangoherald.com/storyimage...662/EP/1/1/EP-121129662.jpg&maxw=650&maxh=550

 

[LotusPawprint]

Not directed at you Kamille, I know you are just the messenger. LOL
How do you toss around a football in the dark?? :waitasec: ..besides, I thought he was tired from being up so late the night before and went straight to bed??

I don't mean to blow your mind, but there are light up glow-in-the dark Nerf footballs. Yeah, for real. :great:



eta: Here, allow me:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nerf-Firevision-Sports-Football/20975671