CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #18

[LotusPawprint]

New poster here.

I agree that LE is holding this very close to the chest. Someone who I know who is LE and I respect greatly told me Sunday that it's "pointing towards the family." That is just his opinion of course because he is not directly involved. With the FBI there they would be a wealth of information to the local LE on what to look for and how to go about things and it seems they were called in pretty early on. They were there when they searched the house.

As to the trucks, if they found evidence, they may not know right now what they have but you can be darn sure they checked everything and documented it every which way so they have no reason not to return the vehicles to MR.

MR was probably observed closely those first few days and he may still be under surveillance. They may have some evidence that gives them some idea of who they suspect, but naming MR or anyone at this stage without anything concrete is just dumb. The main goal is the prosecution so they would hold off until they were sure they had a case. Without a body they have nothing. It wouldn't mean they weren't still looking at other avenues, at least I would hope so.

Here's hoping that there is still hope for a good ending.

:Welcome1:

Good points all around.

bbm - this reminded me of a few statements LE has made during the last month:

In response to questions about what specific direction his investigations are taking, Bender said: “We have not closed the door on anything. We do not comment about ongoing investigations until they’re brought to a conclusion.” 11/27

“The task force is gathering any form of information,” Bender said. “The information may not be applicable now, but could be in the future.” 11/28

“The investigation of Dylan’s disappearance is ongoing,” Bender said. “We won’t be revealing any list of what we find until it’s over.” 11/29

Dozens of items were flagged by searchers. Of those, 10 were collected by investigators "for future reference," according to the news release. 12/8

 

[FlyerFan28]

Because of the economic recession, Mark Redwine has been working out of the area and comes home to Vallecito when he can.
http://www.durangoherald.com/apps/p...h-through-adverse-time--&template=printpicart

Wonder where he stays during those trips?

 

[jjenny]

R*** said he texted and called Dylan’s phone all day but didn’t get replies.
http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...29756/0/HIV/Mystery-lingers-over-missing-teen

And? He texted a number of times through the day, and we don't know how many times he called.

 

[Simply Caustic]

In regards to why MR has not been named a suspect/POI....

Here in Chicago, I work in the criminal justice system for Cook County. I'm very familiar with the intricacies of criminal cases, and the (sometimes painfully slow) route they take through the system.

I am not well-versed in Colorado law. However, the POI/suspect debate is a national thing, IMO.

Here's a citation for those who like that kinda thing...

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"Normally, we do not publish the names of suspects until they’ve been charged with a crime. But in some major cases, such as this one, the information our reporters gather makes it clear to us that a “person of interest” is indeed a suspect and authorities are preparing to seek charges, even if those charges haven’t yet been filed. We were not the first media outlet to report the name and, although we had the name earlier, we did not publish it until he was arrested on a probation violation charge."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-it-would-you/2012/08/01/gJQAIipUOX_blog.html

It is fairly common practice to hold off on naming an actual POI, until it's deemed the best thing to do for an investigation. Naming a POI, essentially, starts the clock running: Why would they do that, at this juncture? IMO There's no reasonable reason to. They are not on anyone's timer right now, they can proceed with their investigation full steam ahead, without the barrage of b.s. that occurs once you've named a suspect - once you've officially limited the scope of your investigation to that one person.

MOO and all that.

 

[TxJan1971]

And? He texted a number of times through the day, and we don't know how many times he called.

And we also don't know if any of his 'other' friends texted or called him...

 

[mmmagique]

Mine too. Would that not just be the best if Dylan was found and he was ok.

I would very happily write a mea culpa to MR if it is found that he had nothing to do with Dylan's disappearance. ESPECIALLY if Dylan is found alive and well. That would be the most awesome ending ever.

 

[SCHMAE]

lets get rid of all the theories and assumptions and focus on what we do know

1, Dylan arrived at 5.40pm sunday evening

2. Dylan was seen at walmart in Durango sometime after that

3. Dylan texted his mom at 7.06pm

4. between 7.09pm and 8pm Dylan made arrangements by text to meet his friend R at 6.30am monday morning

5. Dylans last use of his phone was approximately 8pm sunday night

6. LE wanted videos taken between 6pm sunday night and 12 midday monday

7. MR said he left at 7.30am and that Dylan wouldn't get up.

anything else we know between those hours?

Is this strange ?
""5. Dylans last use of his phone was approximately 8pm sunday night

6. LE wanted videos taken between 6pm sunday night and 12 midday monday""

Why is LE looking from 6 pm......if they know via text that Dylan was still ok and apparently where he was supposed to be at 8 pm when he text the friend,, certainly at 7 when he texted mom. So why 6pm ?

 

[SCHMAE]

We all have seen cases around here where LE says there is no POI...right up until they arrest the husband or wife or father or mother. LE is very careful about naming suspects these days.

Is this because of lawsuits?
Does anyone know if an innocent parent or really any innocent POI was cleared when they arrest the real perp and later that SUED LE? For liable or slander or malicious 'attempted' prosecution or something?
I didn't think of that before , but I bet it is why they say no one is suspect/POI.

 

[Simply Caustic]

Is this strange ?
""5. Dylans last use of his phone was approximately 8pm sunday night

6. LE wanted videos taken between 6pm sunday night and 12 midday monday""

Why is LE looking from 6 pm......if they know via text that Dylan was still ok and apparently where he was supposed to be at 8 pm when he text the friend,, certainly at 7 when he texted mom. So why 6pm ?

I'd presume that they want to verify the veracity of what they've been told by MR about the particulars of the night (i.e., where they went, when, etc.) to see if it really went down as he said....

JMO

 

[scorekeeper]

If Dylan was abducted, wouldn't it be LE's responsiblity to notify the public and to keep his information "out there"? I mean their job is to "protect and serve".

So, if I lived in the area, I would probably be demanding some answers. There are approximately 51,917 people in La Plata County. Aren't any of them wanting to know if there is a child abductor in the area?

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/08/08067.html

 

[cluciano63]

If Dylan was abducted, wouldn't it be LE's responsiblity to notify the public and to keep his information "out there"? I mean their job is to "protect and serve".

So, if I lived in the area, I would probably be demanding some answers. There are approximately 51,917 people in La Plata County. Aren't any of them wanting to know if there is a child abductor in the area?

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/08/08067.html

This is how I feel, too. If LE believes there is even a 50% chance, or even less but still a chance, that Dylan was abducted by a random stranger, it is time to say so, IMO. They say they will not be talking about the case until it is "over"; what if it is never "over"? What if Dylan is never found and no one is ever arrested? Do they mean to simply never mention his name again?

 

[scorekeeper]

Is this strange ?
""5. Dylans last use of his phone was approximately 8pm sunday night

6. LE wanted videos taken between 6pm sunday night and 12 midday monday""

Why is LE looking from 6 pm......if they know via text that Dylan was still ok and apparently where he was supposed to be at 8 pm when he text the friend,, certainly at 7 when he texted mom. So why 6pm ?

BBM

possibly to verify where someone said they were at 6 pm?

 

[SCHMAE]

I'd presume that they want to verify the veracity of what they've been told by MR about the particulars of the night (i.e., where they went, when, etc.) to see if it really went down as he said....

JMO

Right and that request was PRIOR to us seeing the walmart pic, so it's possible that after the walmart trip was verified , that 6 pm timeline was no longer necessary. tks

 

[SCHMAE]

This is how I feel, too. If LE believes there is even a 50% chance, or even less but still a chance, that Dylan was abducted by a random stranger, it is time to say so, IMO. They say they will not be talking about the case until it is "over"; what if it is never "over"? What if Dylan is never found and no one is ever arrested? Do they mean to simply never mention his name again?

I gathered from their use of the term over and end, that they definitely think there is an ' over' to this investigation .

 

[Bravo]

Is this because of lawsuits?
Does anyone know if an innocent parent or really any innocent POI was cleared when they arrest the real perp and later that SUED LE? For liable or slander or malicious 'attempted' prosecution or something?
I didn't think of that before , but I bet it is why they say no one is suspect/POI.

Simply Caustic gives a great explanation upthread. "Once ya pick em the clocks a ticking" LOL Thanks SC for weighing in. Oh gosh i sound like NG :floorlaugh:

 

[Maude]

LE considers their first priority to any future case and will only give info to the family or public if;

1. They think it will bring in new tips
2. The public is in danger
3. It puts pressure on the perp.

It's frustrating to not have more info, but the more I see, the more I think they learned a very good lesson from the Jessica Ridgeway case. Remember, the CBI and Denver FBI field office are also working this one. I'm pretty sure I saw one of the same the FBI guys who searched AS house in the JR case when I saw footage of them searching MR's house.

 

[scorekeeper]

Simply Caustic gives a great explanation upthread. "Once ya pick em the clocks a ticking" LOL Thanks SC for weighing in. Oh gosh i sound like NG :floorlaugh:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

O/T all you need is your bangs pulled over and held in place by that fancy-looking bobbypin...

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[SCHMAE]

I find it odd that MR always says about walmart and getting somthing to eat, but I've not heard once about when they got back how he put groceries away or anything else about that night, or for that matter the morning other than what he said about trying to wake Dylan.

theres a glaring big gap between walmart and 7.30am IMO WHY

That doesn't concern me too much because I'm sure he told LE an hour by hour account of that time and as far as talking to the media about it, men are just not as DETAIL oriented as women are. I could see a man just giving what he deemed the important stuff,,,,,,,,,and probably even a little ' whose business is it what we did when we got home''. I think that's just male-ness. Sorry to the dudes here !

 

[cluciano63]

I gathered from their use of the term over and end, that they definitely think there is an ' over' to this investigation .

LE always gives that impression and I am sure they mean it. It was the same with Kyron, way back when, although he is seldom mentioned now, except in civil matters. Almost never by LE. And he is far from the only one.

 

[mmmagique]

This is how I feel, too. If LE believes there is even a 50% chance, or even less but still a chance, that Dylan was abducted by a random stranger, it is time to say so, IMO. They say they will not be talking about the case until it is "over"; what if it is never "over"? What if Dylan is never found and no one is ever arrested? Do they mean to simply never mention his name again?

I really hate to say this, but that is the impression I am getting. Someone got over on us, we don't want to talk about it. Hey, did you hear about the latest...?