CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #18

[ICUDOUCME]

I wonder if the reason MR calls Dylan by "the boy", "that boy" is because he views him as a possession? and maybe not his possession? Anyone have anything on this? I call my son boy in terms like "Good night boy, I love you." but nothing demeaning, and have never referred to him as that boy, or the boy.

 

[katydid23]

With Elaine's career being full time at a major University, I bet she gets a tuition discount for her children. My friend worked for USC for years and received a hefty tuition discount for her two kids.

I just find it odd that MR would be sitting on a savings account for college tuition, when he did not pay for his older sons college educations, AND his wife had a high paying job working for a University. JMO

 

[mijamawi]

This was discussed a lot in a previous thread. Where I'm from, we use that term a lot. My boys are called boy 1, boy 2, thing 1, thing 2, the boy, the boys, those boys, that boy, boy.

 

[scorekeeper]

I don't remember actually hearing anything where he said it. I think it was on a printed news story. I'll look for the link.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/-1/s

Also from that article:

Mark hadn’t heard much from his son lately, but that night the two hardly had a chance to talk about how Dylan liked his new home, he said.

Why not?
Does that mean Mark wasn't calling
or
Dylan wasn't returning his calls?

If Dylan wasn't returning his calls, I'm sure he probably became angry/upset. And having to go to court to get his visitations tells me that Dylan possibly didn't want to do "visits".

This Thanksgiving trip was the first one since the 2 alleged court hearings (Sept and Nov).

 

[asyousay]

Also from that article:

Mark hadn’t heard much from his son lately, but that night the two hardly had a chance to talk about how Dylan liked his new home, he said.

Why not?
Does that mean Mark wasn't calling
or
Dylan wasn't returning his calls?

If Dylan wasn't returning his calls, I'm sure he probably became angry/upset. And having to go to court to get his visitations tells me that Dylan possibly didn't want to do "visits".

This Thanksgiving trip was the first one since the 2 alleged court hearings (Sept and Nov).

I know some posters on here do not take Elaine's word for it but she did state Dylan did not want to go and visit if i remember rightly . So contact i would guess would be made by MR and not Dylan .

IMO

 

[azgrandma]

I didn't see any real pain or anguish on Mark's face during this interview and he is not grieving imo.

Agreed, no sadness at all, this is your son and you don't break down even once? The constant shaking his head 'no' is VERY disturbing.

R - Do you have anything directly to say to Dylan?
MR - Dylan my prayers are with you and I love you very much. He's the light of my life and he meant everything to me and I just want him home just like everyone else does. And and that's why we gotta keep searching for him because somebody knows something, we gotta find him and we gotta know that he's ok.
R - ............This is your platform today you can use this to get any message out that you want.
MR - I know. And I, I don't want the focus to be mainly on me, I want the focus to remain on Dylan cause that's where, that's the most important thing right now and you know if in the process of what's going on with the authorities and people handling this is to search my home, all they needed to do was ask, I would've willingly let them come in and do it. .................

I find it interesting when he shakes his head no and when he starts to break down (not really he just does that pretend cry)

"We were just focusing on the next day and how that was gonna take place"
Also, in the interview he says that Dylan wasn't the type of kid to get up at 630 if he doesn't have to but his friends are important.

So, if throughout the interview MR indicates that Dylan's friends are important to him and he planned on him seeing his friends, he was going to see his friends the next day, then why would he wait until 730 to try to wake him up?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I know I've seen a lot of comments about MR calling him 'that boy' but IMHO it doesn't mean much. I've heard that many times. My ex husband used to refer to his daughter as 'the kid' and it didn't mean anything. I think that's just how people in his family talked.

 

[Seajay]

This was discussed a lot in a previous thread. Where I'm from, we use that term a lot. My boys are called boy 1, boy 2, thing 1, thing 2, the boy, the boys, those boys, that boy, boy.

I called mine Brat 1 and Brat 2.

 

[katydid23]

Also from that article:

Mark hadn’t heard much from his son lately, but that night the two hardly had a chance to talk about how Dylan liked his new home, he said.

Why not?
Does that mean Mark wasn't calling
or
Dylan wasn't returning his calls?

If Dylan wasn't returning his calls, I'm sure he probably became angry/upset. And having to go to court to get his visitations tells me that Dylan possibly didn't want to do "visits".

This Thanksgiving trip was the first one since the 2 alleged court hearings (Sept and Nov).

And I am not sure why they hadn't had a chance to talk about how he liked his new house. He picked him up at 5:40, they drove for awhile, went to Walmart, went to McDonalds, had a long drive home, had time to toss the nerf ball around, and he even laid down in the living room. He was not talking or texting
on the cell during any time after 8 pm. So why didnt he have a chance to talk about his new home? Wouldn't that be one of the first things they talked about?

What did they talk about then? He said they had not had a chance to talk about their vacation plans yet either. Had not decided what to do on Thanksgiving or what to do the next few days. He even said that Monday's plans with friends were not etched in stone, even though they seemed pretty set.

So what did they talk about for their hour ride home? It was only 6 to 8 pm so it was not too late to talk, imo. What did they discuss if not their immediate vacation plans and not D's new house?

 

[SailorMoon]

My boys will do this (especially during holidays) unless I call them out on it. When I do - they get most indignant about how the clothes are still clean and why shouldn't they wear them again. And this will sometimes extend past 2 days in a row :/

Agree. And mine will have so much cat/dog hair that they resemble the animal itself.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

AZgrandma did MR call your son "that boy" or "the boy"?

 

[scorekeeper]

With Elaine's career being full time at a major University, I bet she gets a tuition discount for her children. My friend worked for USC for years and received a hefty tuition discount for her two kids.

I just find it odd that MR would be sitting on a savings account for college tuition, when he did not pay for his older sons college educations, AND his wife had a high paying job working for a University. JMO

And it is possible that Elaine has a college fund for Dylan also.

But for not paying your child support or being behind in payments, why would you have a college fund (except for possible tax purposes)? And any good financial planner will tell you if you have to choose between saving for retirement or college for your kids, you better be saving for retirement because students can get loans and grants for college...You can't really "borrow" money for retirement...sorry kinda' O/T

Perhaps MR was trying to say why would I do anything to my son, I was saving for his college.........

 

[mmmagique]

Agreed, no sadness at all, this is your son and you don't break down even once? The constant shaking his head 'no' is VERY disturbing.

R - Do you have anything directly to say to Dylan?
MR - Dylan my prayers are with you and I love you very much. He's the light of my life and he meant everything to me and I just want him home just like everyone else does. And and that's why we gotta keep searching for him because somebody knows something, we gotta find him and we gotta know that he's ok.
R - ............This is your platform today you can use this to get any message out that you want.
MR - I know. And I, I don't want the focus to be mainly on me, I want the focus to remain on Dylan cause that's where, that's the most important thing right now and you know if in the process of what's going on with the authorities and people handling this is to search my home, all they needed to do was ask, I would've willingly let them come in and do it. .................

I find it interesting when he shakes his head no and when he starts to break down (not really he just does that pretend cry)

"We were just focusing on the next day and how that was gonna take place"
Also, in the interview he says that Dylan wasn't the type of kid to get up at 630 if he doesn't have to but his friends are important.

So, if throughout the interview MR indicates that Dylan's friends are important to him and he planned on him seeing his friends, he was going to see his friends the next day, then why would he wait until 730 to try to wake him up?

Instead of begging people to keep an eye out, begging anyone who knows anything to PLEASE come forward, (when the interviewer tells him it's his platform to say anything he wants) he comes up with a whole speech about how the focus shouldn't be on him; it should be on Dylan. WHY didn't he make it about Dylan?

Just like Scott Peterson's interview, imo. (don't look at me...think about Lacie...*whistles*)

 

[mmmagique]

I know I've seen a lot of comments about MR calling him 'that boy' but IMHO it doesn't mean much. I've heard that many times. My ex husband used to refer to his daughter as 'the kid' and it didn't mean anything. I think that's just how people in his family talked.

I had a very good, very southern friend, and their family always called the babies "it". Not in a mean way, it was pretty adorable, as in "Awww....look at it trying to crawl" or "Look how cute it is" (you have to hear this in an adorable loving southern drawl.)

 

[asyousay]

My parents never called me " girl or it" . I was always called by my given name. Even tho when I annoyed my dad he used to say " I was the milkmans child and not his "

Maybe it's more of a American thing like calling dad Sir as I see this on u,s shows but it's never done by children in the u,k .

 

[azgrandma]

AZgrandma did MR call your son "that boy" or "the boy"?

never

 

[asyousay]

never

I hope you do not mind me asking this but do you think he is capable of planning something like this to make Elaine to suffer ?


Is power worth this much to MR ?

 

[Eileen730]

SOMEBODY needs to do something.

If the parents don't keep reaching out, if LE refuses to supply any more information, this will go cold quickly.

It's horrible of me, but I kind of wonder if LE wants the public to forget this, because they have no clue what to do or where to search for Dylan. Some others may want this to fade into the background as well. If they don't, now would be a good time to...do something, to say something, to get attention back to this missing 13 year old boy!

I dont for one second think LE wants the public to forget this.
I do think its next to impossible to find a needle in a Haystack.

I dont think LE thinks he was abducted. JMO

 

[ICUDOUCME]

I had a very good, very southern friend, and their family always called the babies "it". Not in a mean way, it was pretty adorable, as in "Awww....look at it trying to crawl" or "Look how cute it is" (you have to hear this in an adorable loving southern drawl.)

LOL not hard to do I have one :great:

 

[Eileen730]

My parents never called me " girl or it" . I was always called by my given name. Even tho when I annoyed my dad he used to say " I was the milkmans child and not his "

Maybe it's more of a American thing like calling dad Sir as I see this on u,s shows but it's never done by children in the u,k .

LOL I was call young lady a few times and when they said that i KNEW i was in trouble.