CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #18

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  • #1,061
I have watched to much criminal minds but what's to say anything that did transpire was not outside the vehicle . MR claims something is wrong with the car and pulls over and they both get out ... MOO .. IMO


Just a theory !
 
  • #1,062
Right. Whatever happened, IMO didn't happen IN either vehicle they searched.

I think they got out of the truck somewhere.
 
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I have watched to much criminal minds but what's to say anything that did transpire was not outside the vehicle . MR claims something is wrong with the car and pulls over and they both get out ... MOO .. IMO


Just a theory !

I think they having an argument and they got out of the truck. Dad could have taken his phone and was mad he was texting
stopped the truck jumped out and smashed the phone Dylan gets very angry at dad. They fight. This is not really a father son relationship remember as I see it they are pretty much strangers. Dad wants Dylans attention thus not letting him go to friends that night and possibly mad about texting.
I think Dad went back the next day before calling about a missing Dylan to clean up the scene... And I think this is why they want info from 6 pm sunday till 12 noon monday!
Just a theory tooo!
JMO
 
  • #1,064
I dont see Dylan as a pushover, to me he has that look that if pushed to far he will fight back JMO
 
  • #1,065
Again, we are all able to see things so differently. I watch that interview ( the "uncut" one that clearly is cut) every time someone else references it, just to see what I have missed - and I honestly don't see anything sinister. To me he seems like a dad who is just holding it together. He is red eyed, tired and drawn looking, and sounds sincere to me. I fear none of us would fare very well if we had our every word and nuance ( in one clip) dissected, quoted and analysed in such depth, and by so many.
I'm still preferring to look at what little is actually known and consider possibilities that don't point towards MR. What I am seeing are comments everywhere (not just here) that are based on the presumption that it's all about MR - even though IMO there is no real evidence or clues leading to anyone. MOO, but surely he can't just be guilty by default.
IMO a lot of things that have been tossed around as suggestions/ opinions have somehow morphed into facts. I have read them myself repeatedly and squirmed, and wondered how they have come to be quoted or tossed out there and simply accepted as known facts.
I keep checking in here because like everyone else I really want some news about Dylan, or something from LE to discuss - and I know new info makes it to these boards very quickly thanks to interested posters and their links. :) Right now I feel I've run out of puff though - it's become hard work for me because I am so uncomfortable. I can't get past the notion that we have no real evidence that MR is not a grieving dad.
:moo:


(Only just catching up. I'm totally wowed by the fact that we are still here.:waitasec:)
I just wanted to say: Catswhiskers - My thoughts exactly. Thank you :)
 
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I have some ideas about what I think may have happened to Dylan...but geez...I don't even care if I'm right or wrong. I just want to know. I want to know where he is. I want to know what happened and who did it--whoever it is, they need to be punished.

I hate to think of him, dead or alive, out there in the snow. I just want Dylan to come home.

Please...come home, Dylan. We've grown to love you....
 
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I have some ideas about what I think may have happened to Dylan...but geez...I don't even care if I'm right or wrong. I just want to know. I want to know where he is. I want to know what happened and who did it--whoever it is, they need to be punished.

I hate to think of him, dead or alive, out there in the snow. I just want Dylan to come home.

Please...come home, Dylan. We've grown to love you....

I'm the same, I have some ideas but they don't matter. The only thing that matters, the overwhelming necessity is finding Dylan, as someone put it in an interview, "he's thirteen, he should be home"

Whatever's happened to him and whoever is responsible for his disappearance I just wish they would have a heart and let his family know where he is.
 
  • #1,069
I am surprised that Elaine is not doing more to spread the message about Dylan to the public ( just from what i can compare from other cases where parents seem to use the media more) .. so is that a ominous sign do people think ?
 
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I am surprised that Elaine is not doing more to spread the message about Dylan to the public ( just from what i can compare from other cases where parents seem to use the media more) .. so is that a ominous sign do people think ?

It's not good. And I do agree that it's quite unusual to see the entire family be so circumspect about getting the message out. Kind of like the Isobel Celis disappearance.
 
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If you don't mind me asking, AZGrandma, how long were y'all together? How long has it been since you've had a conversation with MR. I respect the fact that you've come here and shed some light on MR, but I honestly can't take your opinion as unbiased. It would be like taking the word of an Oklahoma Sooner's opinion of a Texas Longhorn. Too much history to be objective. JMO

I certainly understand and respect your opinion. Let me say this, there is no love lost and there is no anger. There comes a point in your life when you have to say, that was then and this is now and what happened happened. I always go back to the saying that every man divorced a B and every woman divorced a B. Neither of us were perfect and both made mistakes along the way. I have gotten past it, over it and through it many many years ago. So that you are aware, there has been no contact for about 9 years.
 
  • #1,072
Taking Dylan away from his extended family & friends in CS so he could spend the holidays with his dad doesn't seem fair to Dylan and I don't see any good in it.


Why is it not fair? His dad has the right to see his son, and Dylan should want to see his father. The courts seem to believe that the child should be with the NCP on some holidays, and that's how it works in most divorces. It may not seem fair to you, but we don't know for a fact that he didn't want to go. Maybe he didn't, but that's the sad thing about divorce, sometimes the child gets put in the middle of the fight between the parents and that is what causes most of the problems. Kids should not be forced to choose between their parents.
 
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Why is it not fair? His dad has the right to see his son, and Dylan should want to see his father. The courts seem to believe that the child should be with the NCP on some holidays, and that's how it works in most divorces. It may not seem fair to you, but we don't know for a fact that he didn't want to go. Maybe he didn't, but that's the sad thing about divorce, sometimes the child gets put in the middle of the fight between the parents and that is what causes most of the problems. Kids should not be forced to choose between their parents.

But from what Elaine has said Dylan did not want to go and i do not see why she would make that up. She spends all the time with Dylan so one would think she knew what her son was thinking and feeling .

Also why would he want to leave his mum , brother and family to spend it with his dad by themselves?


My parents split up when i was a baby and i never had a choice in who i got to live with . So i went with my mum but i still spent weekends with my dad and my brother , cousins and that side of the family ( who lived with my dad as he was older so he got to pick who to live with) .
I only started to realize when i was older how selfless she had been around the holidays for me. She always spent Christmas alone ( no family ) as i went with my dad and his extended family for the holidays and she turned around in my teen years when i pointed out she must be lonely and said
" Why would i want you to spend it with me when you always had so much fun with your dad and his family , as long as i was having a good time she put her needs second" .. To me that is a great parent.

Of course she wanted me for Christmas but she knew that i would have more fun with my cousins and other kids than spending it with just her.

The mind boggles that to point score that MR may of wanted Dylan for Thanksgiving IMO.
 
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This brings up a point that's been stuck in my mind too. I've read it's roughly 5-6 hour drive from his Mom's house to his Dad's, or at least to Durango where the airport is. Given the airport check in time, searches, possibly changing planes (can't recall if he had to do this or not), it seems like it'd make more sense for one of the parents to drive him, or for them to meet mid-way somewhere. I realize it's kind of a long drive round-trip but it still seems like it'd be both more convenient and cheaper to drive.

Or meet somewhere mid-way, which would reduce each one's drive time down to 3 hours at the most. We did that a couple times to exchange kids when his daughter lived with us. She would spend Christmas with her mother, and the son would spend it with us. The trip would take up most of the day, but it was better than flying.
 
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I think mom has already said what she suspects happened on Sunday night. So it would be phony for her to go on the air and talk to random kidnappers, imo.

That's true. But in other cases, some parents have been highly ridiculed for not making a public plea, or only pleading once. I don't understand why those same people aren't at least questioning why she hasn't done so now.

I'm not criticizing her at all, and it doesn't matter to me whether she's on t.v. every night or not, because IMO those public pleas don't seem to make any difference and they rarely bring the child home. My only question is, she seems to be so sure that MR did something to Dylan, "got rid of him" I think were her words. Where is that hope like most moms have for their missing child? How could a mother NOT have hope that her child could still be alive somewhere? What makes her so sure, apparently, that he is dead at the hands of his father? I don't get that. Sorry.
 
  • #1,076
It all comes down to us not knows what LE has or doesn't have. Knows or doesn't know. In the Katrina Smith case, once they got forensics from the car, they caught their man. Everyone was so sure that Clint Heichel disappeared and murdered Whitney. None was really looking at anyone else. I feel that's the case here.

Respectfully snipped and BBM.

JMO :moo: but I don't agree that everyone was sure that Clint Heichel was guilty. I know of myself and many, many other posters that followed Whitney's case that were keeping an open mind but really felt that Clint had nothing to do with his wife's disappearance. Likewise, I am trying to keep that same open mind to any and all possibilities in Dylan's case.

:cow:
 
  • #1,077
If Mom truly believes Dad responsible perhaps her hope is that Dad has hidden Dylan somewhere.
 
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Respectfully snipped and BBM.

JMO :moo: but I don't agree that everyone was sure that Clint Heichel was guilty. I know of myself and many, many other posters that followed Whitney's case that were keeping an open mind but really felt that Clint had nothing to do with his wife's disappearance. Likewise, I am trying to keep that same open mind to any and all possibilities in Dylan's case.

:cow:

I too never once looked at Clint. There was nothing there. IMO
 
  • #1,079
If Mom truly believes Dad responsible perhaps her hope is that Dad has hidden Dylan somewhere.

I doubt that , or she may of thought that originally (moo)

Dylan has sadly been gone over a month now and there is absolutely no sign of Dylan at all . I fear the worse and I am sure I am not the only one .

IMO
 
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I doubt that , or she may of thought that originally (moo)

Dylan has sadly been gone over a month now and there is absolutely no sign of Dylan at all . I fear the worse and I am sure I am not the only one .

IMO

I fear the worst too. I am just speaking to whatever glimmer of hope Elaine may be hanging on to. If she still is as you say.
 
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