CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #19

[kkdj]

How can they prove Dylan was last seen or went missing from the house , when nobody else apart from MR can verify this ?

I'm willing to listen with any evidence they have! Always have been!
We here have been left to deducing from what little we have been told. Basically Dylan landed, went to walmart. Both ex-wives are suspicious of dad.
Dad has history, his story and demeanor doesnt feel right.
No trace of Dylan. Bottom line.

 

[kkdj]

How can they prove Dylan was last seen or went missing from the house , when nobody else apart from MR can verify this ?

Precisely!

 

[nikb]

I have been in the contracting business for many years. We preliminary the job and give conditional releases upon billing and unconditional releases upon payment. If we don't get paid we lien the project. And every subcontractor does the same.

I'm so glad to see you post this! I was trying to clarify and understood it in my mind but trying to put to "paper"/screen just wasn't wasn't working at all. Thanks for explaining it so well.

 

[Seajay]

I have been in the contracting business for many years. We preliminary the job and give conditional releases upon billing and unconditional releases upon payment. If we don't get paid we lien the project. And every subcontractor does the same.

Yup. The contractor is suppose to pay the subcontractor. My friend ended up paying the subcontractor directly so they didn't come back on him for non-payment.

 

[cluciano63]

If LE has not been able to verify MR's reports of what happened by now, how will they ever be able to do so? If they do not know for sure if Dylan was at the house already, I doubt they ever will. Even if he was at the house, that does not really help LE verify what happened, since they can know very little for sure as to what took place between 8pm on Sunday and whatever time they can pick up MR's alibi on Monday.

I feel as though MR will remain in this place forever; under suspicion, unable to be cleared but also not able to be proven to have done anything to Dylan. Even if Dylan is eventually found.

I don't want to lump him in with some other parents under suspicion in other cases, but it is kind of the same; even if Ayla Reynolds is found someday, what if nothing can be proven as to how she got there? Or Hailey Dunn, or even Kyron? I fear that none of these cases can ever be proven, after a certain amount of time passes.

 

[Seajay]

If LE has not been able to verify MR's reports of why happened by now, how will they ever be able to do so? If they do not know for sure if Dylan was at the house already, I doubt they ever will. Even if he was at the house, that does not really help LE verify what happened, since they can know very little for sure as to what took place between 8pm on Sunday and whatever time they can pick up MR's alibi on Monday.

I feel as though MR will remain in this place forever; under suspicion, unable to be cleared but also not able to be proven to have done anything to Dylan. Even if Dylan is eventually found.

I don't want to lump him in with some other parents under suspicion in other cases, but it is kind of the same; even if Ayla Reynolds is found someday, what if nothing can be proven as to how she got there? Or Hailey Dunn, or even Kyron? I fear that none of these cases can ever be proven, after a certain amount of time passes.

We don't know what the results of the forensic tests were on Mark's home and vehicles. If they found Dylan's DNA at Mark's, say on a tooth brush or spoon or bowl, and on the bedding on the couch, that pretty much tells them he was there, that he had cereal at some point, and that he possibly slept on that couch on those sheets. So there is ways for them to know if Dylan was there or not, and slept there or not and ate there or not. We just don't know what LE found in their testing. So it can be verified Dylan was there.

And we have no way or knowing what other tips they were given, pictures or sightings of Dylan they just haven't told us about. Until LE starts talking, I don't think we can discount a lot of things. IMO

 

[cluciano63]

We don't know what the results of the forensic tests were on Mark's home and vehicles. If they found Dylan's DNA at Mark's, say on a tooth brush or spoon or bowl, and on the bedding on the couch, that pretty much tells them he was there, that he had cereal at some point, and that he possibly slept on that couch on those sheets. So there is ways for them to know if Dylan was there or not, and slept there or not and ate there or not. We just don't know what LE found in their testing. So it can be verified Dylan was there.

And we have no way or knowing what other tips they were given, pictures or sightings of Dylan they just haven't told us about. Until LE starts talking, I don't think we can discount a lot of things. IMO

Even if they have proof he was there, that isn't going to help much at this point, IMO. Yes, I thought of a toothbrush, but if he packed up all of his things, he may have taken it with him. And it seems they did not do more than a visual search until 10 days or so later, so probably food dishes were put away, etc.

The silence from LE combined with the inability or at least LE not making a point to rule out MR makes me believe that LE knows very little that will be helpful in locating Dylan. Even if they have gleaned out a few facts. It is 5 weeks now, for crying out loud.

 

[demetra]

I am still waiting on evidence,DNA,or forensic results pointing to MR. All those things rumored in his past a manipulator, alcoholic,domestic violence,that info came from exes there's two sides to every story.Nothing about MR being the last one to see him sounds strange he was sleeping in his home when he left,So far his errands and whereabouts have been verified,could MR have harmed him, i don't know but what i do know is i have seen no evidence released to suggest that by LE.

 

[cluciano63]

I am still waiting on evidence,DNA,or forensic results pointing to MR. All those things rumored in his past a manipulator, alcoholic,domestic violence,that info came from exes there's two sides to every story.Nothing about MR being the last one to see him sounds strange he was sleeping in his home when he left,So far his errands and whereabouts have been verified,could MR have harmed him, i don't know but what i do know is i have seen no evidence released to suggest that by LE.

I would think they probably have whatever forensics back that they will get. Didn't they say nothing helpful came from the search of the house? And returned the trucks, as far as we know? So where else can they get forensics without finding Dylan and maybe not even then.

I apologize for being so pessimistic but I have been attached to many, many cases here and they remain in limbo, some for a few years now, and many started out with some degree of hope and promise. And turned into a whole lot of silence.

 

[demetra]

I would think they probably have whatever forensics back that they will get. Didn't they say nothing helpful came from the search of the house? And returned the trucks, as far as we know? So where else can they get forensics without finding Dylan and maybe not even then.

I apologize for being so pessimistic but I have been attached to many, many cases here and they remain in limbo, some for a few years now, and many started out with some degree of hope and promise. And turned into a whole lot of silence.

I understand your point. The reason I cant go with MR is because yes in my eyes right now everything they have searched hasn't provided nothing at least nothing we know of, so how can i possibly see him harming DR without proof? and at this point i seen none.

 

[cluciano63]

I understand your point. The reason I cant go with MR is because yes in my eyes right now everything they have searched hasn't provided nothing at least nothing we know of, so how can i possibly see him harming DR without proof? and at this point i seen none.

I am not pointing any fingers at MR; I have no idea what to think as to what happened to Dylan. My fear is that LE does not either. It doesn't matter what I think.

 

[cluciano63]

I understand your point. The reason I cant go with MR is because yes in my eyes right now everything they have searched hasn't provided nothing at least nothing we know of, so how can i possibly see him harming DR without proof? and at this point i seen none.

I am not pointing any fingers at MR; I have no idea what to think as to what happened to Dylan. My fear is that LE does not either. It doesn't matter what I think.

 

[demetra]

I am not pointing any fingers at MR; I have no idea what to think as to what happened to Dylan. My fear is that LE does not either. It doesn't matter what I think.

I didn't mean to say i think your pointing fingers,I apologize maybe i worded it wrong what i was saying is i don't see MR harming DR until i see evidence that's all,again i apologize.

 

[katydid23]

I don't think that finding Dylan's DNA on the couch or a toothbrush means anything. He was there for a week in September. So his DNA and hair and trace evidence and prints are probably there, but who knows if the were left in November or September?

 

[YidArmyRach]

How can they prove Dylan was last seen or went missing from the house , when nobody else apart from MR can verify this ?

Perhaps fingerprints on cereal box, milk carton? After all, these items won't have been around the last time he was home. So if MR said he found a used cereal bowl, then Dylan's prints should be on everything he touched. I would have thought that there would be fingerprints on other items which Dylan would have touched, which would have cleaned prior to his arrival this time - bathroom, toilet seat, basin etc?

 

[catswhiskers]

I would think they probably have whatever forensics back that they will get. Didn't they say nothing helpful came from the search of the house? And returned the trucks, as far as we know? So where else can they get forensics without finding Dylan and maybe not even then.

I apologize for being so pessimistic but I have been attached to many, many cases here and they remain in limbo, some for a few years now, and many started out with some degree of hope and promise. And turned into a whole lot of silence.

BBM I don't think any info was released about the home/vehicle search results (I could be wrong - it's getting to be hard work checking and rechecking links all the time!) IIRC it was only a couple of days ago that we found out (via FB) that the trucks had been returned to MR pretty quickly. Seeing LE have said MR isn't a suspect more than once (yikes again - I think that's right) I'm guessing they don't need to announce that his story checks out after all? Anyway, I thought it was the most recent large scale ground search that LE said yielded nothing helpful.

 

[kkdj]

I'm so glad to see you post this! I was trying to clarify and understood it in my mind but trying to put to "paper"/screen just wasn't wasn't working at all. Thanks for explaining it so well.

To clarify further, there are "progress payments" that clarify the unconditional releases/current conditional releases of payments. We don't get paid, we don't give unconditional releases for that draw period and lien the project. It's quite simple actually and every sub has the same rights as long as they prelien the job.

 

[katydid23]

Perhaps fingerprints on cereal box, milk carton? After all, these items won't have been around the last time he was home. So if MR said he found a used cereal bowl, then Dylan's prints should be on everything he touched. I would have thought that there would be fingerprints on other items which Dylan would have touched, which would have cleaned prior to his arrival this time - bathroom, toilet seat, basin etc?

I don't think the milk carton would have been around by the time they did they served the search warrant. IIRC, it was 14 days later? The cereal box was likely still around, but I wonder if it is easy to lift prints from a porous surface like that. I hope they checked that out.

 

[JustCryssy]

I don't think the milk carton would have been around by the time they did they served the search warrant. IIRC, it was 14 days later? The cereal box was likely still around, but I wonder if it is easy to lift prints from a porous surface like that. I hope they checked that out.

Not trying to sound quippy, but when was the last time a single man threw out a milk carton?
:waitasec:

 

[SCHMAE]

How can they prove Dylan was last seen or went missing from the house , when nobody else apart from MR can verify this ?

Dna / hair from where he slept or on the cereal bowl and possibly his prints LAST on the door know, like laying on top of MR's prints !