CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #19

[Flutterflies]

Yes, it was due to work, per Elaine on NG on December 3rd -

GRACE: (snipped by me) Did they get along?

(Elaine) REDWINE: Yes. I mean, I just don`t think -- you know, we had joint parenting time. And because, you know, Mark had to earn a living and we live in a small community, he was on the road a lot. So he didn`t spend a lot of time with Dylan in the three years prior to Dylan moving to Colorado Springs. So I just don`t think he knew Dylan all that well.

"So he didn`t spend a lot of time with Dylan in the three years prior to Dylan moving"

Jumping off your post … I wonder about MR's relationship with Dylan prior to "the three years prior to Dylan moving" ? three years prior MR had work obligations but what about the years before the three years, if that makes any sense.

 

[Seajay]

I remember in Sierra Lamar's case we were looking sideways at her dad, and rightfully so, because he had done time for molestation. But he passed his poly and he was very vocal about his past, and his innocence in her disappearance. And MOST important, LE came out and strongly professed his innocence as well.

And they publicly ruled out her mother and the live in boyfriend too.

But I don't see that happening the same way here at all.

And I bet no one believed him and tore apart what he said until there was proof he didn't do anything to her.

 

[DylansMom34]

Christmas Eve tomorrow. I'm so fortunate that my Dylan is home, in fact, I can hear him upstairs humming Christmas songs (very very off tune). Each gift I wrapped and wrote "to: Dylan" on the gift tags, made me think about a mom an hour south of me, writing "to: Dylan" on gift tags that may never be received by her Dylan. My strongest Christmas wish this year is for the person who is responsible for what happened to Dylan to realize that Dylan deserves to be found and to finally do the right thing. If this is a person, as I suspect, who should have compassion and love for this child, please please do the right thing and make the call, tell someone what happened and where he is!!

 

[scorekeeper]

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine?filter=2

some lady is saying that her preacher saw a kid that looked like Dylan.

why are they posting this on FB?

 

[DylansMom34]

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine?filter=2

some lady is saying that her preacher saw a kid that looked like Dylan.

why are they posting this on FB?

That page seems to have its fair share of attention seekers. It makes me critical of any post where someone "knows" something or has supposedly seen something.

 

[katydid23]

And I bet no one believed him and tore apart what he said until there was proof he didn't do anything to her.

Not really because he was not the last one seen with her and she went missing from Mom's house and not his. And he was at work when she disappeared.

People were more suspicious of mom's live in boyfriend because he left for work, from that house, just a half an hour or so before she went missing. So people theorized that he may have doubled back. And he is a contractor, so we wondered if he had a solid alibi or not.

But LE was very vocal from the start that the entire family was CLEARED. They did not just say they were cooperative or were NOT POI's. They said CLEARED.

I would like to hear LE say that in this case too.

 

[DylansMom34]

IMO, the LE on this particular case would probably prefer to clear everyone in Dylan's family and probably most members of the family could be cleared but why make it obvious who isn't cleared? I think that is really the reason none have been cleared...

MOO

 

[Seajay]

Not really because he was not the last one seen with her and she went missing from Mom's house and not his. And he was at work when she disappeared.

People were more suspicious of mom's live in boyfriend because he left for work, from that house, just a half an hour or so before she went missing. So people theorized that he may have doubled back. And he is a contractor, so we wondered if he had a solid alibi or not.

But LE was very vocal from the start that the entire family was CLEARED. They did not just say they were cooperative or were NOT POI's. They said CLEARED.

I would like to hear LE say that in this case too.

So would I and I imagine that anyone in the crosshairs of the public would like that to happen as well. LE just isn't doing any of that in this case. I have no idea why as has been discussed here numerous times.

 

[Dee10]

So would I and I imagine that anyone in the crosshairs of the public would like that to happen as well. LE just isn't doing any of that in this case. I have no idea why as has been discussed here numerous times.

I would also add this as another red flag in this case.

 

[cluciano63]

They were very quick in ruling out scenarios.

 

[Seajay]

They were very quick in ruling out scenarios.

Yet they have still left some things on the table. I'm not happy with that because it would mean that Dylan is either being sexually assaulted by someone or he's dead. Neither of those choices sit well with me.

I'd rather believe what I believe and hope that he's live and being taken care of. Maybe that's why I hang onto it so tight because I don't want Dylan to be dead or with some sexual deviant.

 

[cluciano63]

Yet they have still left some things on the table. I'm not happy with that because it would mean that Dylan is either being sexually assaulted by someone or he's dead. Neither of those choices sit well with me.

I'd rather believe what I believe and hope that he's live and being taken care of. Maybe that's why I hang onto it so tight because I don't want Dylan to be dead or with some sexual deviant.

Well...not that I believe it, but if he was kidnapped by family and is being hidden, I guess that falls under the LE options too.

 

[katydid23]

Yet they have still left some things on the table. I'm not happy with that because it would mean that Dylan is either being sexually assaulted by someone or he's dead. Neither of those choices sit well with me.

I'd rather believe what I believe and hope that he's live and being taken care of. Maybe that's why I hang onto it so tight because I don't want Dylan to be dead or with some sexual deviant.

NONE of us want him to be dead or to be held hostage by a deviant. But just because I don't want that to be the reality, it does not change the potential reality from one of possible worst case scenarios.

 

[scorekeeper]

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine?filter=2

Elaine put a post up.

I can't even imagine the heartache......

 

[mijamawi]

question for everyone to think about. if someone said to the media that they 'wouldn't be surprised if you had done something to someone' what would your reaction be?

would it be to ignore what they said or to refute what they said

IMO I'd be screaming loud and clear from the rooftops that I was innocent

Yep and if MR was screaming from the rooftops, many would say he's volunteering too much info or is putting too much emphasis on himself being innocent. Guy.can't.win.period.

I wonder if any media has asked him. I have so little faith in media today, what seems obvious to us is often not to the reporters. I think I would have been going minute by minute in an OCD kind of way, if I were the parent of a missing child and had a chance to say what took place the last day.

Again, if he went minute by minute publicly (and he may have already to LE) people would say how convenient it was that he remembered everything so clearly...minute by minute.

"So he didn`t spend a lot of time with Dylan in the three years prior to Dylan moving"

Jumping off your post … I wonder about MR's relationship with Dylan prior to "the three years prior to Dylan moving" ? three years prior MR had work obligations but what about the years before the three years, if that makes any sense.

When did they divorce? He could have been with both parents 6 years ago.

 

[Angelonline]

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine?filter=2

Elaine put a post up.

I can't even imagine the heartache......

The link just leads me to the fb page and not the single post. I cannot find her post on that page from my tablet can someone paraphrase. Also paraphrase what someone said about their preacher seeing someone who looked like Dylan. Please and thank you.

 

[mijamawi]

The link just leads me to the fb page and not the single post. I cannot find her post on that page from my tablet can someone paraphrase. Also paraphrase what someone said about their preacher seeing someone who looked like Dylan. Please and thank you.

Elaine said thank you for all the love and support and talks about how Dylan should be home trying to figure out his Christmas presents by shaking them or finding them before Christmas.

The other post was someone said they saw Dylan at a skatepark in Farmington.

 

[scorekeeper]

Elaine is thanking everyone for their support. Talking about how hard the Christmas season is (missing Dylan looking for his presents, shaking his presents, him taking his money to buy gifts)....grateful for all the prayers...

some lady said a lady came into her store and said her preacher saw Dylan skateboarding in Farmington. wanting to know if it was true....other posters gave her the numbers to call.....

 

[catswhiskers]

I'm not a NG fan - promise! But I keep going back to her transcripts because at least they are word for word what ER actually said. And I'm not quoting them as criticism of ER - just as viable "facts"

GRACE: Now, you didn`t hear from him since he touched down 7:06 PM. You didn`t hear from him the next morning. What did you make of that at the time?
REDWINE: You know, I didn`t really think anything of it just because, you know, when he`s been with his dad here before, which was over Labor Day weekend was the most recent since we`ve moved -- you know, he kind of did his own thing as far as with his friends. And so I would text him and be, like, you know, Are you having fun? And it wouldn`t be a prescribed time. It would just kind of be more throughout the day, just me, you know, telling him I loved him and just kind of reaching out to him.

To me that sounds like this recent trip and the Labour Day weekend weren't isolated visits. My ex visits with our sons every weekend (he rarely takes them away to sleep over at his place though) and I think he doesn't know them very well anymore - definitely not as well as I do at least!

REDWINE: Well, not necessarily going to sleep, but he would let me know where he landed for the night. So like, if he was hanging around with his friends in Bayfield, you know, he would let me know what friend he was sleeping with that night or whatever the case may be.

IMO if MR had said anything like that - implying that he didn't necessarily know where Dylan was going to be spending the night until a phone call was made - people would have been screaming what a lousy parent he was.

 

[mck16]

I'm not a NG fan - promise! But I keep going back to her transcripts because at least they are word for word what ER actually said. And I'm not quoting them as criticism of ER - just as viable "facts"

GRACE: Now, you didn`t hear from him since he touched down 7:06 PM. You didn`t hear from him the next morning. What did you make of that at the time?
REDWINE: You know, I didn`t really think anything of it just because, you know, when he`s been with his dad here before, which was over Labor Day weekend was the most recent since we`ve moved -- you know, he kind of did his own thing as far as with his friends. And so I would text him and be, like, you know, Are you having fun? And it wouldn`t be a prescribed time. It would just kind of be more throughout the day, just me, you know, telling him I loved him and just kind of reaching out to him.

To me that sounds like this recent trip and the Labour Day weekend weren't isolated visits. My ex visits with our sons every weekend (he rarely takes them away to sleep over at his place though) and I think he doesn't know them very well anymore - definitely not as well as I do at least!

REDWINE: Well, not necessarily going to sleep, but he would let me know where he landed for the night. So like, if he was hanging around with his friends in Bayfield, you know, he would let me know what friend he was sleeping with that night or whatever the case may be.

IMO if MR had said anything like that - implying that he didn't necessarily know where Dylan was going to be spending the night until a phone call was made - people would have been screaming what a lousy parent he was.

And just an observation, but if this was his normal routine when he was at his Dad's, it can be understood why MR wasn't immediately concerned when he returned home and DR wasn't there.