CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #19

[TGIRecovered]

It happened 28 years ago in roughly the same area as where Dylan went missing. 14 year old boy went out to walk his dog and never came home. No trace of him. No one saw anything. Never been found.

Of course that long ago there were probably even less houses in that area than there are now so less people to see anything (though also more likely that a stranger to the area would stick out). But my point is it does happen in America, sad to say.

If they never found the boy and no one saw anything, how do you know that he was snatched by a stranger? Do you remember the boy's name ? Maybe a link to any news articles about it? Thanks!

 

[cluciano63]

Dylan not magically reappearing for Christmas takes away, for me, the .0001 chance that a parent had been "hiding" him.

 

[Kimster]

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[Darcyline]

I don't think someone would have had to stalk the house. Almost every case on Websleuths (well, every random case) seems like someone just got "lucky"-Happening across an opportunity. Unfortunately, not every child abduction is the result of long-planning, stalking, and lurking in corners. If they were all like that then I think cases would be easier to solve. I just can't completely say a stranger or acquaintance abduction is literally impossible at this point.

I also think the cabin is being made to sound more remote than it is. He did have neighbors or houses somewhat close. It wasn't like he was 30+ miles away from any civilization.

I think LE is doing a good job at least from what we know so far. Tunnel vision for LE is BAD. It has led to criminals getting away and led to innocent people being prosecuted. The fact that they had different task forces doing different jobs and looking into different possibilities is a good thing. But, what do you do when no theory pans out and you don't have any evidence? It must be terribly frustrating for all involved. I am sure LE (and me too) expected some lead to pan out pretty quickly. An RSO, a disgruntled relative, his Dad. I have a sinking feeling none have. I don't have that feeling like in other cases where they know who did it and just don't quite have the evidence.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

A random crazy person grabbing a child walking/riding a bike down a street in a neighborhood is very different than taking a child in a house in the woods.

This person would have had to stalk MR's house, wait for Dylan to arrive, wait for MR to leave than have to sneak in, grab Dylan, gather all of Dylan's stuff and leave no trace...Oh.. and stolen a fishing pole as an after thought.

The only way they would have known that Dylan was in there was if they knew MR or Dylan's friends... and in that case, they aren't random strangers.

Sorry... it just doesn't fit this case.
JMO..

Wonder what kinda pole Dylan had? If it was a fly fishing pole it would be worth money. As for maybe robbery, but it turned out to be more of take a kid, who happened to be sitting there waiting for dad with his backpack on. Robberies don't always take place at night, usually more often than not during times people would be at work. Also criminal actions are usually because of opertunity and it being easy. Maybe there was someone at the area down CR500 that was fishing, or getting firewood...and for some reason saw MR leave his home. These are just theories I am throwing around, I could see something of this sort happening.

 

[Darcyline]

Does MR lock his doors when he leaves? Has that ever been asked or clarified?

 

[cluciano63]

Wonder what kinda pole Dylan had? If it was a fly fishing pole it would be worth money. As for maybe robbery, but it turned out to be more of take a kid, who happened to be sitting there waiting for dad with his backpack on. Robberies don't always take place at night, usually more often than not during times people would be at work. Also criminal actions are usually because of opertunity and it being easy. Maybe there was someone at the area down CR500 that was fishing, or getting firewood...and for some reason saw MR leave his home. These are just theories I am throwing around, I could see something of this sort happening.

I am not sure if you think a thief would also take Dylan? Seems very unlikely to me. Even car jackers usually drop off any children who were in vehicle. No offense to parents, but I wouldn't think many people want a teenage boy, if they were after a fishing pole, etc.

 

[dlc]

Does MR lock his doors when he leaves? Has that ever been asked or clarified?

I asked that wayyyy back, but got no response.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

Very interesting stuff about this BB fellow.
One thing his victim age......13 to 18. How old is BB , do we know?
I only ask because were he a 20 yr old and his victim 17.8 at the time, then
one would wonder about a statutory case, but that would NOT involve kidnapping,
would it? Or an ankle monitor, would it? RSO's tend to stick with one basic age of
victim ( sickos ) so that he previously victimized a 13 to 18 yrs old, then you could assume that is his preferred age group.... meaning he would almost always go for
a victim within that age group. Also as for the ankle monitors, they are only
guidelines. No one sits and monitors them all day long. They are specifically for
if a felon ends up missing,t hey can find them, correct? It's not as if someone gets
a beeping alert that RSO #132 has crossed into the next county. But I wonder if
they 'store' the info on the monitors. Say could they if they wanted to see if this
guys' monitor had him near Durango near Thanksgiving, or not. Does anyone know?
Also do we know if he was in or out of jail at that time? Super strange because
his suicide begs a question........... ' whats the matter rso ' ? If he knew that he
got caught again for another crime or a worse crime, that he would never get out
of prison, that's a reason to suicide.

ETA ... Also on the one hand ,it seems a viable person to look into, it's horrible if so
because A) like posted above, he can never say where Dylan is and B ) in order for
him to KNOW he would be life in prison, he must have done the unthinkable So
while resolution is a good thing, I hope this fellow's not involved.

They do not store this type of information. As I stated before several of my family had these things on, one of them worked, would say she was at work, and then go get drunk at the local bar, several times went out of the county once to a funeral she wasn't suppost to attend as per her PO. Many times to her friends houses to drink. Then she cut this thing off, stayed in the area for about a week, and then ran off to another city, she ran for over 8 years before they caught her. I lived in the home she was in when she cut that monitor off her ankle, and the PO only came in our home one time, and that was to put the monitor on her leg...she was on that thing for over a year. Doing all kinds of things that should of set that sucker off, causing alarm to the PO, but it was three weeks before PO showed after she cut the monitor off.

 

[vasportsmom]

ER has a new post up on the Facebook page if it hasn't been mentioned yet.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

I am not sure if you think a thief would also take Dylan? Seems very unlikely to me. Even car jackers usually drop off any children who were in vehicle. No offense to parents, but I wouldn't think many people want a teenage boy, if they were after a fishing pole, etc.

I understand, I am just thinking that if like this BB fellow if he already had done things with children, and kidnapping, as well as burglary, would it not be possiable? I hate the what if's but I also feel like it could fit into this situation.

 

[Redux]

If they never found the boy and no one saw anything, how do you know that he was snatched by a stranger? Do you remember the boy's name ? Maybe a link to any news articles about it? Thanks!

His name was Christopher James Harvey. It's been classified as a nonfamily abduction. He took his dog for a walk, the dog came back but he didn't. There's not a lot of info out there that I could find on it, but I did read one article that said that though they couldn't 100% rule out that he had just gone hiking and gotten lost, they didn't think it likely (for some reason that I can't recall ATM). I'll post a link in a bit - heading home in a snowstorm right now.

 

[scorekeeper]

His name was Christopher James Harvey. It's been classified as a nonfamily abduction. He took his dog for a walk, the dog came back but he didn't. There's not a lot of info out there that I could find on it, but I did read one article that said that though they couldn't 100% rule out that he had just gone hiking and gotten lost, they didn't think it likely (for some reason that I can't recall ATM). I'll post a link in a bit - heading home in a snowstorm right now.

Be careful - it's a mess out there! Hope you get home safely.

 

[jjenny]

I am not sure if you think a thief would also take Dylan? Seems very unlikely to me. Even car jackers usually drop off any children who were in vehicle. No offense to parents, but I wouldn't think many people want a teenage boy, if they were after a fishing pole, etc.

ITA. Robbers don't take 13 year old teenagers with them.

 

[Darcyline]

ITA. Robbers don't take 13 year old teenagers with them.

If they are just robbers, no. I have looked up enough RSO records that most of them have other charges-robbery and rape or domestic violence and rape or drug problems and rape. Unfortunately, criminals rarely seem to sit in nice neat boxes or categories.

 

[Jasper52]

His name was Christopher James Harvey. It's been classified as a nonfamily abduction. He took his dog for a walk, the dog came back but he didn't. There's not a lot of info out there that I could find on it, but I did read one article that said that though they couldn't 100% rule out that he had just gone hiking and gotten lost, they didn't think it likely (for some reason that I can't recall ATM). I'll post a link in a bit - heading home in a snowstorm right now.

Redux, there are some interesting comments about CJH following this article and video here: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/10/50-people-in-50-days-searching-for-a-9-year-old-boy/

It's also interesting to note the dates after the comments!

ETA: Christopher James Harvey: http://doenetwork.org/cases/42dmco.html

 

[vasportsmom]

ITA. Robbers don't take 13 year old teenagers with them.

If they do I have a 12yo & his 13yo best friend that are driving me nuts and making my migraine much, much worse.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

Does anyone else see that the report of BB and his ankle monitor not working come on a day that he was reported to have not reported to his PO, sound strange that they would find that on the day he was to report...To me they weren't checking it, who knows how long he had not had it on. JMO

As for them having all the different offences yes I agree criminals have many different ones, but to me that just means given the opportunity to do these things they would...and yes even all at once. They don't care they are braking the law, or how many.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

Also if BB was to report on say the same time frame every month, that would mean he was to of reported probably right before Dylan went missing, and if he removed that ankle monitor right after then he could of been at large at that time. We just don't know, and couldn't unless LE looks at this.

 

[vasportsmom]

Does anyone else see that the report of BB and his ankle monitor not working come on a day that he was reported to have not reported to his PO, sound strange that they would find that on the day he was to report...To me they weren't checking it, who knows how long he had not had it on. JMO

As for them having all the different offences yes I agree criminals have many different ones, but to me that just means given the opportunity to do these things they would...and yes even all at once. They don't care they are braking the law, or how many.

I read that as he cut the bracelet off on the same day he failed to report.