CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #21

[packerdog]

There were comments on the FDR FaceBook saying that he claims to have called Dylan three times that morning.

Oh Wow, so he didn't rush home to find out why he didn't answer/ I wonder which phone he called.

 

[white rabbit]

The texts between Dylan and Ryan were provided to MSM by Ryan and his family. LE had nothing to do with that. Now if MR wanted to provide his texts to Dylan to the media I'm sure they would be more than happy to publish those too. It's not a matter of LE allowing it or not.

i think my point was lost somewhere at the end of 2012...lol...

i understand that, i agree, i get it, et cetera...

 

[Confusion]

I said in my first comment about it that even I thought it pretty unlikely. I'm just offering another scenario to the loads we've already presented. Every scenario seems unlikely at this point because there is no evidence pointing to anything, so whenever we do find out what happened ( if we do ) I bet we are like WOW that is so unlikely/coincidental etc.
I thought this scenario would explain why no 'crime scene' per se, no evidence in the truck or at home of any foul play happening.

Sorry, I wasn't accusing you of saying he had. There have just been a lot of people who have said it. I knew I was going to screw that post up, even though I changed it at least 3 times before posting it. I guess I'd just like to see a scenario that didn't involve a murderous parent, I don't know.

 

[PaulR]

It was a short flight so i doubt it would of worn him out.

Short flight, but...

I think this was the flight that was supposed to arrive at 5pm but instead arrived at 6pm, right? That would have left Colorado Springs at 1:40pm, transfer in Denver.

So:

Arrive at airport at 12:30 (hour before flight to check in, get through security, etc.)
Short (46 min) flight to Denver
Hour and 15 minute layover in Denver
Depending on how the flight was delayed, an additional hour either in the airport or on the plane
Hour + 11m flight to Durango
Arrives at 6pm

5 and a half hours in airports and on airplanes could have worn him out. Connections just *kill* me, as I have to sit around in an airport with nothing to do. If he had to wait for the plane to Durango, he would have been sitting in DEN for two hours.

 

[vasportsmom]

ER didn't talk to the press until Friday.

Why is that relevant? This is not an either/or between the 2 parents. Elaine's innocence is a separate issue than the speculations about Mark and I don't understand the need to act as if that isn't the case. Only one parent was the last to see this child and only that parent had opportunity to disappear him. That is why only one parent was opened up for sleuthing purposes by admin so why is everything becoming a comparison between the two?

 

[Angelonline]

I tend to question the sanity of people who walk around with a smile on their face at all times, especially in the Walmarts.
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snipped by me
You would probably view me as insane then, because unless I'm asleep or sick then I'm most likely smiling. Lol. :seeya:

 

[PaulR]

Why is that relevant?

It's every bit as relevant as MR not talking to the press until Sunday.

That is, not at all.

:seeya:

 

[DylansMom34]

ER didn't talk to the press until Friday.

Yes, true. Here is the link of the report of her interview and the heart wrenching picture of Elaine and Cory.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/‘He-would-have-called’--

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22063185MR was quoted in this story the day of the search of the reservoir. Seems his first statement where he was quoted was critical of the law enforcement response to the missing fishing pole.

MR's actual first public appearance where anyone reported seeing him was at the vigil on Tuesday, November 27 and I believe that was his first interview as well. He declined to be interviewed the next day, saying he wishes to have attention only focused on Dylan and not on himself.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...2/Dylan-Redwine-did-not-run-away-police-say--

 

[asyousay]

Short flight, but...

I think this was the flight that was supposed to arrive at 5pm but instead arrived at 6pm, right? That would have left Colorado Springs at 1:40pm, transfer in Denver.

So:

Arrive at airport at 12:30 (hour before flight to check in, get through security, etc.)
Short (46 min) flight to Denver
Hour and 15 minute layover in Denver
Depending on how the flight was delayed, an additional hour either in the airport or on the plane
Hour + 11m flight to Durango
Arrives at 6pm

5 and a half hours in airports and on airplanes could have worn him out. Connections just *kill* me, as I have to sit around in an airport with nothing to do. If he had to wait for the plane to Durango, he would have been sitting in DEN for two hours.

The mind boggles at this kind of travel when is it not all still Colorado ?. Being from the U,k and such a small country you guys catch planes like we catch the train

It makes me smile in a good way. So i assumed Dylan caught one flight but he caught 2 and had to wait around in between them ?

 

[Eileen730]

Well YES I'm sure it is a crime. But in his own mind he may not view it as such.
I have friends whose dad, a heavy drinker, often pulled over on the highway and told them to get out of the car if they were arguing with him or each other and he was tired of hearing it. He would come back for them in half an hour or so. I'm sure that was a crime. But he didn't even INTEND for them to die. They were teens and if something had happened to them when they were walking on the highway it would surely be his fault, negligence or something. But I don't know that it would be murder, more like negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter or something.

But if he did do something like this and then covered it up and told LE he saw him that morning and he wasnt there when he came back well that there is a very big crime Lying to Law enforcement! I think if you left a child out in the wilderness its a crime and not reporting it is worse.

 

[DylansMom34]

IMHO anytime that Elaine has been interviewed, has written any letters or posts on the facebook, or that she has spoken in any public manner, her message has been primarily the concern for Dylan and desire to have him found. She did stray slightly when she voiced her concerns about her fears of MR.

On the flip side, MR has consented to few interviews and again IMHO there has been little as far as any visible concern or worry about Dylan. Now maybe he just isn't a person who expresses emotion. But there does appear to be a stark difference in the concern and worry expressed by Elaine and the lack thereof from MR. Again MOO IMO

 

[vasportsmom]

It's every bit as relevant as MR not talking to the press until Sunday.

That is, not at all.

:seeya:

Mark was the last known person to see a missing child. He's the only person known to have had contact with that child for a period of nearly 24 hours before he was reported missing. Everything he says and does becomes relevant in the search for answers. The same can not be said for Elaine. Apples & oranges.

ETA: I'm not trying to direct the discussion, just understand it. It seems to me that if one thinks MR is innocent then their time would be better spent sleuthing possible alternate scenarios rather than simply deflecting suspicion back on Elaine. Maybe I'm just confused or missing a major point.

 

[scorekeeper]

Yes, true. Here is the link of the report of her interview and the heart wrenching picture of Elaine and Cory.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/‘He-would-have-called’--

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22063185MR was quoted in this story the day of the search of the reservoir. Seems his first statement where he was quoted was critical of the law enforcement response to the missing fishing pole.

MR's actual first public appearance where anyone reported seeing him was at the vigil on Tuesday, November 27 and I believe that was his first interview as well. He declined to be interviewed the next day, saying he wishes to have attention only focused on Dylan and not on himself.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...2/Dylan-Redwine-did-not-run-away-police-say--

Thanks! I was in the process of finding the articles! :seeya:

 

[TxLady2]

Maybe the press has not sought him out for an interview. Maybe there is nothing new to tell the press. Bottom line is, he doesn't have to speak to them at all. It means nothing if he does or doesn't, because that is not indication of guilt, just that for whatever reason, he has not been interviewed.
Ever stop to think that maybe he's returned to work? Just like Elaine has? People have bills to pay, and interviews with reporters don't pay anything, last I heard.

 

[kkdj]

Well YES I'm sure it is a crime. But in his own mind he may not view it as such.
I have friends whose dad, a heavy drinker, often pulled over on the highway and told them to get out of the car if they were arguing with him or each other and he was tired of hearing it. He would come back for them in half an hour or so. I'm sure that was a crime. But he didn't even INTEND for them to die. They were teens and if something had happened to them when they were walking on the highway it would surely be his fault, negligence or something. But I don't know that it would be murder, more like negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter or something.

Right. Now if MR were teaching him a lesson, then went back and couldn't find him, I would think he would have immediately come clean about that. Then maybe Dylan could hAve been found. Imo

 

[mck16]

Mark was the last known person to see a missing child. He's the only person known to have had contact with that child for a period of nearly 24 hours before he was reported missing. Everything he says and does becomes relevant in the search for answers. The same can not be said for Elaine. Apples & oranges.

Keyword is 'known'. Your statement is true based on the opinion MR did something to make DR disappear. But, we do not know this is the case as a fact. jmo

 

[asyousay]

Maybe the press has not sought him out for an interview. Maybe there is nothing new to tell the press. Bottom line is, he doesn't have to speak to them at all. It means nothing if he does or doesn't, because that is not indication of guilt, just that for whatever reason, he has not been interviewed.
Ever stop to think that maybe he's returned to work? Just like Elaine has? People have bills to pay, and interviews with reporters don't pay anything, last I heard.

Has Elaine gone back to work as does she not work at a university so they would not of been back until this week/next week?. And she did not go back till the university would of broken up for Xmas i would of thought .

How do we know she has gone back to work?

 

[SCHMAE]

Sorry, I wasn't accusing you of saying he had. There have just been a lot of people who have said it. I knew I was going to screw that post up, even though I changed it at least 3 times before posting it. I guess I'd just like to see a scenario that didn't involve a murderous parent, I don't know.

Well I've offered two such points. Just for u !
In one, a travelling ,yet unknown to LE perp, has been victimizing people
all over the country but they haven't tied him to any yet because he's
still on the loose. Hes' sneaky and basically invisible and no one knows
he even exists basically because he's always on the move.
In the second, a possible acquaintance of MR who knew him well
enough to know DR would be visiting and took advantage of MR's
morning outings.
I'm open to anything at this point.
COME HOME BABY BOY !

 

[white rabbit]

hey i just thought of something (yes it was painful lol).

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ast-seen-night-before-he-was-reported-missing

"People taking part in the search should meet at 8:30 a.m.at the Edgemont Ranch picnic area. The location is on the south side of the 5300 block of County Road 240, just east of Edgemont Ranch and just west of the intersection with County Road 240 and County Road 234."

i've been citing 246 or 243 as possible 'alternate routes' that evening. why did they focus on that particular intersection? because it's hardly halfway in between.

was that the location of a last ping? from either dylan's or MR's cell phone?

this was probably discussed in one of the many threads but TIA if anyone can shed light.

 

[Confusion]

Mark was the last known person to see a missing child. He's the only person known to have had contact with that child for a period of nearly 24 hours before he was reported missing. Everything he says and does becomes relevant in the search for answers. The same can not be said for Elaine. Apples & oranges.

Maybe. Somebody somewhere knows if someone else had contact with him, and who. I can't think of a better way to frame someone for a crime than to commit one when he/she would seem to be the only person who could possibly commit it. I'd prefer to see someone do it by sneaking into a motel room completely unseen and stealing the tv while the actual guest there was asleep, and I have no reason to think that anyone would want to frame MR for murder or anything else. I'm just saying something, and as soon as I figure it out, I'll tell you what it is. :dunno: :blushing:
MOO