CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #22

[vasportsmom]

Is there any type of sex that is appropriate to have on the front lawn with your wife and children as an audience?

 

[popsicle]

I would say it's a pretty safe assumption based on the incident of him having sex with a woman in the yard while his wife and children watched. This is based on my own experiences being around alcoholics. Most occasional drinkers would not do such a thing....a drunk would. He was not a 20 year old partying college student when this happened. He was a grown man with a wife and children.

That is just not a safe assumption to make at all. imo

 

[Confusion]

Well his ex wife called him a 'daily drinker'. I believe her.

Does it really matter what type of sex he was having? Seriously??

Which ex-wife? As far as I know, neither one has spent a lot of time with him outside of a courtroom since they divorced; then again, what do I know? I didn't say what type of sex, I said definition of sex; either way, I made my point and won't argue about it.

 

[Eileen730]

It was absolutely disgusting, but it wasn't life threatening as was what ER did. And we are talking an act of murder by MR. that is the point I was trying to make. jmo

Er was not pulled over by LE she was accused by MR.
Now did it happen we dont know How many times did Dad drive while under the influence with his kids we dont know
the sex thing and being beat by his son tells us there was more going on than the sex in the yard!

JMO

 

[mck16]

That confuses me more than anything. I get erring on the side of caution and not being willing to lay blame at Mark's feet just yet. I do not get trashing Elaine in an attempt to justify Mark's behavior. What is the purpose? Elaine could be any number of horrible things but that doesn't change the fact that she was nowhere around when Dylan disappeared off the face of the Earth.

Does talking about facts that have been presented here constitute trashing ER. I don't think so, I am just saying report all the facts of this case and compare apples to apples. Just because you can sleuth MR doesn't mean you can only point out the bad that has been reported on him. And if someone tries to bring up anything else or make a comparison people get all bent out of shape. jmo

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

That confuses me more than anything. I get erring on the side of caution and not being willing to lay blame at Mark's feet just yet. I do not get trashing Elaine in an attempt to justify Mark's behavior. What is the purpose? Elaine could be any number of horrible things but that doesn't change the fact that she was nowhere around when Dylan disappeared off the face of the Earth.

I'm not trashing Elaine at all. I look at all the evidence we have on everyone.

 

[vasportsmom]

I'm not trashing Elaine at all. I look at all the evidence we have on everyone.

Oh no, I know you weren't. I was more commiserating with you.

 

[mck16]

Er was not pulled over by LE she was accused by MR.
Now did it happen we dont know How many times did Dad drive while under the influence with his kids we dont know
the sex thing and being beat by his son tells us there was more going on than the sex in the yard!

JMO

Is there anything in my post that says or implies she was pulled over? And I think being beat by his son is disgusting as well. What was he on? I don't know how many times MR drove under the influence with his kids, that was not my point. I wish people would stop being so on the defense and realize some people are only commenting on the facts that have been presented. There may be more facts out there that have not even been posted here because we can't sleuth anyone but MR. jmo

 

[Tonto]

What evidence?

What evidence do you have that points to MR as a suspect in any way?

We dont even know if what hes said is truth about that morning.

And we don't know if it isn't the truth.

As I see it there is NO evidence at all.

Exactly. Which begs the question - Why are we allowed to accuse a father of killing his son when he is a bona fide victim unless or until LE says otherwise?

What we do know is his cell phone stopped at 8 pm sunday!

And there are hundreds of explanations for how this came to be that doesn't implicate MR.

Fair enough. Luckily my ego is anything but fragile and I'm not here for pats on the back.

No idea what you mean about your ego. I was just pointing out the inconsistency with regard to your standards of scrutiny in this case.

 

[absentia]

does anyone know if MR flew DR in on a round trip or one way ticket for thanksgiving? in MR's video, he says that in Sept. DR came on a round trip ticket, as if that was different this time. But then he just babbled a bit about direct vs. connecting flights, almost to deflect attention from something he brought up accidentally.

 

[katydid23]

But kids do all behave differently with their phones. My 2 are off to spend a few days with their grandmother tomorrow, and these posts have just reminded me that neither of them will have their phones charged for the trip. In fact I can guarantee there will be a mad search of bedrooms in the morning when I raise the subject! I don't mind that they aren't obsessed with their phones - but I am paying monthly fees for the darn things that rarely see the light of day! :doh:

But we have been told that Dylan was a 'prolific texter' and we saw some evidence of that with his friends released texts.

 

[dlc]

are you quite sure about that being accurate?

IIRC that accusation was thrown supposedly two years later.

but something I noticed was that it said two years ago when they lived in Denver.

When did they move from Denver and would Dylan have been at school then?

Thank you for pointing this out. I do think it's important to remember (IMO) that MR didn't accuse ER of this until two years later. If the accusation is true (and it may be, who knows), this presumably means he was okay with her drinking and driving them around for two years, which just doesn't seem reasonable to me. Very puzzling.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Er was not pulled over by LE she was accused by MR.
Now did it happen we dont know How many times did Dad drive while under the influence with his kids we dont know
the sex thing and being beat by his son tells us there was more going on than the sex in the yard!

JMO

we do know that MR had at least one charge against him for child abuse (without injury)

maybe he was drink driving?

 

[absentia]

I would say it's a pretty safe assumption based on the incident of him having sex with a woman in the yard while his wife and children watched. This is based on my own experiences being around alcoholics. Most occasional drinkers would not do such a thing....a drunk would. He was not a 20 year old partying college student when this happened. He was a grown man with a wife and children.

whoa. I had not heard that one.<modsnip>

 

[rebeccaeee]

does anyone know if MR flew DR in on a round trip or one way ticket for thanksgiving? in MR's video, he says that in Sept. DR came on a round trip ticket, as if that was different this time. But then he just babbled a bit about direct vs. connecting flights, almost to deflect attention from something he brought up accidentally.

Discussed this previously. Seems that he may have misspoke about the ticket, menaing non stop, not one way. Discrepancy about non stop vs flight with stops. ER preferred non stop flights for Dylan so MR has made a big deal about this flight being like that. However, I do not think any of this has been proven with receipts or comments from LE or family.

 

[vasportsmom]

Is it a fact that Elaine drove drunk (w/or w/o the kids) or do we just have one statement from Mark claiming that? I don't recall seeing that info verified but I tend to miss a ton.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I am not accusing MR of anything. I am only looking into possible scenario's. He was the last person to see Dylan (as far as we know) so it only makes sense to consider the possibility that he did something. And it is a POSSIBILITY. Do I know for a fact he did something? Of course not! But do I think it's possible? Absolutely I do!

 

[absentia]

That is just not a safe assumption to make at all. imo

It does not mean he was a drunk, but it does mean he did some pretty questionable things. maybe out of spite? immaturity? who knows, but, not very good whatever the case is.

 

[nursebeeme]

That confuses me more than anything. I get erring on the side of caution and not being willing to lay blame at Mark's feet just yet. I do not get trashing Elaine in an attempt to justify Mark's behavior. What is the purpose? Elaine could be any number of horrible things but that doesn't change the fact that she was nowhere around when Dylan disappeared off the face of the Earth.

iirc there are court records that back up allegations of substance abuse and that can be discussed.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Is it a fact that Elaine drove drunk (w/or w/o the kids) or do we just have one statement from Mark claiming that? I don't recall seeing that info verified but I tend to miss a ton.

If you're asking if she was every pulled over for drunk driving with the kids in the car? Not to my knowledge. To my knowledge it was charges/accusations made by MR. True or not?