CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #22

[catswhiskers]

Ok, so now you know for future info, just in case they push you over the edge, and you decide to dispose of the annoying offspring, all you need to do is sit and play WOW for several hour afterwards, and you have your alibi. :wink:

They keep threatening to make me an account ... 'but mum ... you'd love it!' Nope ... I can say for sure I won't be doing that!

 

[Crosby87]

Sadly once they get into their teens It kind of hard to rebuild all that you destroyed!

That is exactly my thinking. I really think it was too quick and too "clean" to have been rage induced. Mark had darn near 22 hours to clean up, no matter which way we look at it but if it wasn't planned and he requested the visit for sincere reasons then I really can't imagine he would have started it off on the wrong foot by showing up at the airport drunk.

Dylan wasn't a young child. He probably knew how to recognize the signs of being drunk. I'd be shocked if Elaine hadn't drilled those signs into his head and I would really expect that he would be more likely to cause a scene then willingly hop in a vehicle with his father drunk. Think about, airport security would have notified LE and they sure wouldn't have allowed Mark to drive off drunk with a child. What better way to quickly put an end to a visit Dylan reportedly had no desire to make?

Imo, MR arranged the visits with Dylan when it was clear he would be moving to CS in order to lure him back to Vallecito and prevent him from leaving.

Mark was upset when ER was allowed to move Dylan to CS so he exercised his visiting rights because this was the only way he could bring Dylan back and keep him there imo.

 

[momrids6]

They keep threatening to make me an account ... 'but mum ... you'd love it!' Nope ... I can say for sure I won't be doing that!

OT: I am just happy mine have given up hope that I can play any game on the Xbox or the computer besides WWF....however- they love when I watch them;bragging rights and all that. Right now I'm gratefully upstairs due to the pissing contest being held in the living room over Madden 13.
You can cut the testosterone with a knife down there

 

[azgrandma]

Hi azgrandma,

I keep reading what you wrote here and I'm not sure I'm understanding what relevance you are putting on MR clutching a pillow and making you go hmmmmm?

Ima

Sorry Imamaze, I just thought it was strange and at that time we were bouncing all over the place about the house, items outside the house, the football.
I wondered why someone would answer the door with a clinching a pillow, was he doing it for a sympathy look or because he was putting the pillow away and the door rang as he was walking by type of thing. Odd that the reporter stated it that way so it made me go hmmmmm what is significant about that?

 

[vasportsmom]

Imo, MR arranged the visits with Dylan when it was clear he would be moving to CS in order to lure him back to Vallecito and prevent him from leaving.

Mark was upset when ER was allowed to move Dylan to CS so he exercised his visiting rights because this was the only way he could bring Dylan back and keep him there imo.

Do you think Mark could possibly be hiding Dylan somewhere?

 

[asyousay]

Imo, MR arranged the visits with Dylan when it was clear he would be moving to CS in order to lure him back to Vallecito and prevent him from leaving.

Mark was upset when ER was allowed to move Dylan to CS so he exercised his visiting rights because this was the only way he could bring Dylan back and keep him there imo.

It is very hard to see this in any other light than control IMO

Why when your child is local would you not go out of your way to have visitation and bond with your child as it is a lot easier to maintain a relationship when you live each other.

But the ex wife and child move away and all of a sudden its important to see Dylan and force access and go though the courts .

 

[nursebeeme]

It is very hard to see this in any other light than control IMO

Why when your child is local would you not go out of your way to have visitation and bond with your child as it is a lot easier to maintain a relationship when you live each other.

But the ex wife and child move away and all of a sudden its important to see Dylan and force access and go though the courts .

visitation goes thru the courts in divorce situations. (that is normal)

and when one of the parents moves away they have to be revisited.

I don't see any indication that Mark Redwine was forcing the issue, etc (not to mention the records are sealed):twocents:

 

[vasportsmom]

Sorry Imamaze, I just thought it was strange and at that time we were bouncing all over the place about the house, items outside the house, the football.
I wondered why someone would answer the door with a clinching a pillow, was he doing it for a sympathy look or because he was putting the pillow away and the door rang as he was walking by type of thing. Odd that the reporter stated it that way so it made me go hmmmmm what is significant about that?

I keep trying to make sense of that and I can't. The only time I can ever recall answering the door clutching a pillow is shortly after my hysterectomy when I couldn't get up w/o clutching a pillow to my incision.

 

[sunni]

BBM - who go after the judge? and for what? Judges can't be sued for the decisions that they make.

There was a case in LV Nevada a few years back (Darren Mack) who killed his wife and then shot the family court judge that had presided over his case. (The judge didn't die.)

So it does happen. :blushing:

 

[Seajay]

Originally Posted by momrids6
CO CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #20 - Page 18 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


"I can safely say that at that time he would have been considered a regular drinker."

BBM




I have to clarify my "regular" comment and I so much apologize if it caused confusion.
I didn't want to get into a winded reply but I guess I should have. By regular, what I meant was that he would go out with friends to a bar and yes they would drink, we would go to dinner and he might have a drink, at a party he would drink. Remember we were young and had little babies so it wasn't as if it was daily or anything like every weekend he would be drunk. It was just the normal at the time, at the age, kind of drinking. I can think of a couple times when you have those moments when you say "I'm never doing that again" type of drinking. That's what I meant by a regular drinker.

I am soooo very sorry for any and obviously all the confusion I caused.

So he wasn't this raging alcoholic who got snot slinging drunk every night, dancing on tables at parties, and singing drunken renditions of "He's a Jolly Good Fellow" all the time.

Thanks for your reply.

 

[momrids6]

It is very hard to see this in any other light than control IMO

Why when your child is local would you not go out of your way to have visitation and bond with your child as it is a lot easier to maintain a relationship when you live each other.

But the ex wife and child move away and all of a sudden its important to see Dylan and force access and go though the courts .

Of course it is about control- for both parents imo. He went to court for visitation- the ability to see him a certain amount of days/time- usually granted around holidays- when he would be more likely to be off from work. ER stated he did not see him much do to work when they lived there-

 

[OtherEyes]

I could be wrong as i am not good at knowing this stuff so please ignore if this is wrong.


If Dylan did spend the night then there should be at least some DNA imo.

For example he slept on the settee and would of surely had a pillow and a blanket/duvet cover as it would of been cold. And as he had not been there in months , one would think they was clean on that day so nobody else should be on them besides Dylan and MR?

So there is DNA proof right there i would of thought , from hair, skin and anything else the human body sheds .

BBM

O/T Sorry but I just love this new word I have learned...Settee! It's so fun to learn new words from each other in other parts of our world! Thanks asyousay, It made me smile!:seeya:

 

[catswhiskers]

They keep threatening to make me an account ... 'but mum ... you'd love it!' Nope ... I can say for sure I won't be doing that!

Sorry vasportsmom - I need another online pastime like a hole in the head You have impressed my boys though!

 

[vasportsmom]

Sorry vasportsmom - I need another online pastime like a hole in the head You have impressed my boys though!

I thought I would hate it. I only agreed to try so my kids would shut up. I now have more level 90 toons than my husband & boys both combined.

 

[cluciano63]

I keep seeing how no one has been ruled out...but I thought LE has ruled out local RSO's. is that not true?

 

[NSS]

Here's what I'd find interesting.

MR's errands. What were these errands that took a few hours, where did he go? Whom did he see? What was his demeanor?

For even though I realise that there is no such thing as 'normal' if a tragedy were to have taken place. I'd like to hear from anyone that MR met or chatted to (even CCTV footage would help) that morning prior to calling LE when he became aware that Dylan was missing

 

[imamaze]

Sorry Imamaze, I just thought it was strange and at that time we were bouncing all over the place about the house, items outside the house, the football.
I wondered why someone would answer the door with a clinching a pillow, was he doing it for a sympathy look or because he was putting the pillow away and the door rang as he was walking by type of thing. Odd that the reporter stated it that way so it made me go hmmmmm what is significant about that?

Thanks azgrandma, no problem, I just couldn't see where you were going with it.

Ima

 

[momrids6]

I keep seeing how no one has been ruled out...but I thought LE has ruled out local RSO's. is that not true?

One article says; all have alibis... not "cleared"
One article states that there are only 9 in the area- um- the registry lists more than 9. There are 3 known "failure to register"

 

[momrids6]

<rs>
what if you think your husband did do something to your child!
Wouldn't you say something I know i would.

<rs>
JMO

If I thought my husband, or anyone in particular did something like this to my child- the law, the rules and talking to msm or le would be out the darn window. There would be no "legal" interrogation techniques employed either.

ETA: looking at the personalities and traits of many here- I am sure I am not the only one

 

[azgrandma]

So he wasn't this raging alcoholic who got snot slinging drunk every night, dancing on tables at parties, and singing drunken renditions of "He's a Jolly Good Fellow" all the time.

Thanks for your reply.

naw, he sang twinkle twinkle little star. just kidding!:floorlaugh: