CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #22

[asyousay]

I am not sure but I truly hope so.

I have followed a lot of these cases and have been surprised time and time again when silence is shattered with breaking news. Anything is possible.

:twocents:

I hope you are right as Elaine and her family do not deserve this .

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

If Dylan is found & depending where he is found I would say yes, but I believe it will very much based on circumstantial evidence.

So your feeling is that LE has very little rather than the are just building their case?

 

[katydid23]

Hidden, to me, = prisoner. So I can't see this as a viable option, by anyone known to him and professing to care about him. He would have to either be restrained so as not to escape, or kept watch over like an inmate. He has missed weeks of school, the holiday season as well as Thanksgiving, and who knows what else. I have no confidence in this being an option at all, unless someone is severely deranged. I imagine LE would have checked out all relatives and close friends of the family early on, at least one would hope so, and that no one is unaccounted for. Going on two months is a long time for anyone to be absent without anyone noticing. And it would likely have to involve more than one person, in order to prevent escape.

Very unlikely scenario.

Once again, we posted same thing at same time. :wink:

 

[nursebeeme]

Unless a 13 yr old was willing to be hidden, I don't see how it would work. You would have to keep them a virtual prisoner, and why would someone do that?

I just don't see how this scenario is possible. :moo:

jaycee duggard

elizabeth smart

little boy that was kidnapped off of his bike (heck he even had access to the computer)

it is possible imhoo.

 

[OtherEyes]

Do most on here think this case will eventually be solved? I'm just curious.

I sadly don't think so without a body. Even then, I'm not sure. We just don't know what LE really has. But I do know that I felt physically ill when I first heard about this case, for some reason I was really sick inside about it without knowing much at all. It was really weird for me.

But I still pray that Dylan will be found! I pray for all those who love him, that they will have answers soon.

 

[nursebeeme]

I hope you are right as Elaine and her family do not deserve this .

none of the family members deserve it nor Dyan's friends and all that know and love him.

 

[cluciano63]

If Dylan is found & depending where he is found I would say yes, but I believe it will very much based on circumstantial evidence.

That would be very unsatisfying, IMO, depending on how strong the circumstantial evidence is. Also, a case made without finding Dylan would not really feel like a resolution either, IMO. I doubt we will ever know what really happened, as I have no confidence in anyone ever confessing.

The best chance of solving the case would be, IMO, Dylan being found and DNA linking him to a stranger in the system. But then, I am not sold on this being a stranger crime, IMO.

 

[kkdj]

I've already looked into this a bit but I don't know if I can share anything. I just don't know how someone could hide a 13 year old for any amount of time though? But this thought has crossed my mind and obviously it would be best case scenario and mean that Dylan could be alive. What if after picking Dylan up at the airport and having dinner and a trip to Walmart MR passed him off to someone? Far fetched? Maybe but certainly another possibility. I could see this happening more with a very young child but maybe not so easy with a 13 year old. They couldn't hide him forever and eventually he could talk and name names.

It does happen and as a matter of fact there is a whole industry harboring and using children for business purposes. It's disgusting to even think about but maybe it's plausible. Who knows who MR could have met on his truck driving journeys? At truck stops etc.?
Mods if this can't be discussed please delete.

 

[cluciano63]

jaycee duggard

elizabeth smart

little boy that was kidnapped off of his bike (heck he even had access to the computer)

it is possible imhoo.

This option is hideous, too, IMO. One of the boys, Steven Stanger I believe, said that what he endured was worth than death.

 

[vasportsmom]

Hidden, to me, = prisoner. So I can't see this as a viable option, by anyone known to him and professing to care about him. He would have to either be restrained so as not to escape, or kept watch over like an inmate. He has missed weeks of school, the holiday season as well as Thanksgiving, and who knows what else. I have no confidence in this being an option at all, unless someone is severely deranged. I imagine LE would have checked out all relatives and close friends of the family early on, at least one would hope so, and that no one is unaccounted for. Going on two months is a long time for anyone to be absent without anyone noticing. And it would likely have to involve more than one person, in order to prevent escape.

Very unlikely scenario.

I agree that it is highly unlikely and I honestly can't begin to work it all out in my head but there is probably no harm in looking into possible avenues. Plus 1) It gives us all something to work on w/o the "us vs them" atmosphere of the usual discussion and 2) who knows - even if we don't find somewhere that an alive Dylan may be hidden it could get us closer to just bringing him home period. Information is usually a good thing as long as we are all aware of where the line is at.

 

[cluciano63]

OT, but I hope it is not required to post that one hopes Dylan is found safe and alive, as I am sure that would be the preference of everyone on WS. I hope this can be assumed to be the outcome everyone would want.

But this is WS, after all, where most times, a case at this stage does not have a good ending.

 

[katydid23]

jaycee duggard

elizabeth smart

little boy that was kidnapped off of his bike (heck he even had access to the computer)

it is possible imhoo.

NO, I agree that a pedophile could do this.

I was responding to a different scenario that I thought was being suggested. I was seeing suggestions that certain family members, were being accused, of taking and hiding him, so MR would be looked at as the suspect, and then kill himself.

 

[vasportsmom]

jaycee duggard

elizabeth smart

little boy that was kidnapped off of his bike (heck he even had access to the computer)

it is possible imhoo.

Shawn Hornbeck (wasn't that his name?)

 

[Dee10]

So your feeling is that LE has very little rather than the are just building their case?

No, I very much believe they are building a case, but I don't believe there will be say blood or a gun to match with someone, hairs, fibers that sort of thing. Speculating it maybe he just may have had lots of bruises, or absence of evidence ex. if there was no trace of Dylan being in the house Sunday, stories that may have evolved or changed, smashed cell phone, past history. Just a lot of things added together that will paint a picture is what I envision.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I guess I wasn't really thinking about stranger abduction. Of course that is a possibility too. I think the idea of family harboring him is a little far fetched for me. I think it would be too hard to pull off for any period of time.

 

[asyousay]

NO, I agree that a pedophile could do this.

I was responding to a different scenario that I thought was being suggested. I was seeing suggestions that certain family members, were being accused, of taking and hiding him, so MR would be looked at as the suspect, and then kill himself.

Have i missed something ?

 

[jjenny]

jaycee duggard

elizabeth smart

little boy that was kidnapped off of his bike (heck he even had access to the computer)

it is possible imhoo.

If you are talking about Shawn Hornbeck, the guy was going to kill him, and he made a deal with him-that for exchange of this guy not killing him, he will do as he is told.Unless the abductor is willing terrorize the victim to the point of victim complying, it would be impossible to control this victim. So that rules out relative abduction.

 

[momrids6]

Hidden, to me, = prisoner. So I can't see this as a viable option, by anyone known to him and professing to care about him. He would have to either be restrained so as not to escape, or kept watch over like an inmate. He has missed weeks of school, the holiday season as well as Thanksgiving, and who knows what else. I have no confidence in this being an option at all, unless someone is severely deranged. I imagine LE would have checked out all relatives and close friends of the family early on, at least one would hope so, and that no one is unaccounted for. Going on two months is a long time for anyone to be absent without anyone noticing. And it would likely have to involve more than one person, in order to prevent escape.

Very unlikely scenario.

I agree that it is highly unlikely and I honestly can't begin to work it all out in my head but there is probably no harm in looking into possible avenues. Plus 1) It gives us all something to work on w/o the "us vs them" atmosphere of the usual discussion and 2) who knows - even if we don't find somewhere that an alive Dylan may be hidden it could get us closer to just bringing him home period. Information is usually a good thing as long as we are all aware of where the line is at.

BBM: looking at it objectively- I don't see so much us vs. them. I think it may be mentally easier to believe MR had a hand in it to what Cluciano is referencing and the Shawn Hornbeck nightmare.

 

[vasportsmom]

NO, I agree that a pedophile could do this.

I was responding to a different scenario that I thought was being suggested. I was seeing suggestions that certain family members, were being accused, of taking and hiding him, so MR would be looked at as the suspect, and then kill himself.

Huh? I missed that part. Should I have read back further or something before I involved myself in advocating for looking into past locations for MR? I had no idea there was any discussion of framing Mark or hoping he would harm himself because of it.

 

[nursebeeme]

If you are talking about Shawn Hornbeck, the guy was going to kill him, and he made a deal with him-that for exchange of this guy not killing him, he will do as he is told.Unless the abductor is willing terrorize the victim to the point of victim complying, it would be impossible to control this victim. So that rules out relative abduction.

I was not referring to relative abductions. I was referring to abductions in general where an older child was found alive after the fact (and able to be kept secreted)