CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #23

[asyousay]

They're following all the model procedures for law enforcement for missing children. One of those procedures ensures the child's picture and info goes out to all law enforcement across the country by being entered in NCIC. Another of those procedures ensures the child's info and pic goes out to the public nationwide through a partnership with NCMEC. NCMEC, in order to fulfill their obligation, has a vast network with numerous organizations and companies nationwide to distribute the missing child's pic and info widely and in a variety of ways.

Anything else is up to the people who care about the child - family, friends, strangers across the country. I think the compassionate thing for all of us to do for the child, and also for the family who may simply be unable to for some time, is to plaster those pictures in our neighborhoods and all over the internet.

LE is doing their job, and doing it well. I don't want them sitting on TV or radio or posing for pictures or consulting with PR firms. I want them investigating these cases.

I also don't question whether families should be doing more. I go on the assumption that they're devastated. It's up to friends and strangers to help these children.

That's just me and my JMO IMO MOO though

Thank you for explaining as its different than in the U,K as your country has so very many different LE people.

For big abduction cases on children in this country it is 24/7 media reporting and the police normally do news briefing to keep the public up to date every couple of days. Also family's also do press stuff and so on.

The silence here is maddening IMO

 

[LotusPawprint]

I live, work and my son attends school very near Jessica Ridgeway's neighborhood. I remember keeping a closer eye on Dylan and the other kids in our neighborhood, near his school, etc. When LE came out and warned us of a predator in the area, this notched up 10 million percent.

If LE in the Durango/Bayfield area has any suspicions about a predator, I really think they would be saying so.

As a parent, there is something different that clicks in your mind if there is an indication that the child was a runaway or a victim of some sort of harm due to a parent than if the child could have been the victim of a random predator.

I hope LE isn't letting down their community by not saying anything....

Sometimes I feel like a broken record when I compare/contrast this to Jessica's but that's what brought me to WS and it's a story that will stay with me for a long, long time.

I know the two stories are very different but nonetheless I get frustrated that Dylan isn't get more press, wondering if that would help. I know the circumstances are different, but still.

I'm not sure if the initial suggestion that he might've been a runaway hurt. I'm not sure if the age difference (10 v. 13) or gender difference had an impact.

Clearly LE was able to rule out both of Jessica's (divorced) parents relatively quickly and determined there was a dangerous predator living in the community. LE was able to release information to the public asking for help, alerted the public to be on the lookout, and were running a very well-oiled operation for everyone to see.


We don't know what's going on behind the scenes here. But we do have a child who went missing - whose backpack and cell phone have vanished without a trace. In Jessica's case, her backpack was left within a couple of days nearby her home, out as a taunt. Crime scenes were found and the wooden cross was soon discovered.

I suppose it's frustration but why is Dylan's disappearance and his stuff being wiped off the face of the earth not more of a complete, full on crisis, where every possible resource is being mobilized whereas in Jessica's case everything was used when her backpack was disposed of in the middle of the road? I'm fairly certain LE is operating this way for a reason, I just don't understand and that's frustrating and heartbreaking.

Also, that is why I'm sitting here and not working the case as a LE agent. So I guess I'm in the right place! I wish I could do more for Dylan

 

[nursebeeme]

BBM - I have to disagree, at least here in AZ, they notify the community a LOT when there is a predator on the loose. Especially concerning children.
We had two cases and not only was it on the news, it was in letters sent home, utility bills and the police increased their patrols by schools & bus stops.

there would have to be clues left that a perpetrator is on the loose

For the better part of a year LE focused on Amber Dubois' stepfather.. that is until John Gardner tried it again.

I am not saying that is what happened here (stranger abduction) but unless they can be sure what they are warning against I have not tended to see there be warnings. (there wasn't even a warning in the Sierra LaMar case and they had DNA early on with a hit to CODIS)

 

[Confusion]

really? , even when there has not been anything like this in the area before and knowing the history of the person involved i do not think a lot of people would be afraid for there children without a LE warning of some kind .

I think people in areas with low crime rates are more likely to keep a closer eye on their children when something like this happens close to them. I also think that people in the area who know the person you're talking about have become acquainted with him in ways other than just reading accusations, insults and criticisms of his every move on the internet. I doubt that there are many parents around there saying, "Go ahead and do what you want; he's never hurt you before." I'm sure that all parents are at least paying more attention to their children there, and most are probably keeping them closer to home and under much stricter supervision. MOO

 

[asyousay]

Yes, really. Crimes like this can hit areas even where crimes are non-existent...just like in other abduction cases. Abductions of children have happened in remote rural areas as well as quiet subdivisions or upscaled communities. Pedos dont discriminate. They seize on an opportunity when it presents itself no matter where that may be.

What history shows he murdered his child?

I have read articles from that area and the citizens are very alarmed that an abductor may be in their area as they should be.

I dont know of but once case where LE warned the community (Ridgeway case) and there have been countless abductors of children on the loose where the child or children were taken and later found murdered and the perp found was a stranger pedo. Some didnt even have a reason to be in the area but they sure were there.

IMO

His past behavior indicates that he can have a volatile temper when pushed and "he is capable of hurting Dylan if Dylan said something he did not like" (Elaine's words) .. I will take her word for it here.

Also taking a swing at your son after trying to grab Elaine and they move in to protect her .

He is no saint by the sounds of it and two ex wifes have said he is capable of hurting Dylan.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

BBM - I have to disagree, at least here in AZ, they notify the community a LOT when there is a predator on the loose. Especially concerning children.
We had two cases and not only was it on the news, it was in letters sent home, utility bills and the police increased their patrols by schools & bus stops.

Hi azgrandma!:seeya:

Do you have a link to some of those missing children cases that turned out to be murdered by a stranger pedo because I sure would be interested in reading them? I am talking about children who are missing for a length of time (not found) and were murdered by a stranger pedo. I know if some creep is hanging around the school they will do this but that is not what I am talking about. Im talking about high profile missing children's cases where the child was found to be murdered by a stranger pedo all along and LE never warned the public the entire time. I could list many from memory that didnt.

Because I have been a member here for over 9 years and have discussed more missing children's case than I can even remember now and the only case I can remember at the moment of LE doing that was in Jessica Ridgeway's case due to the nature of her death and dismemberment.

tia

 

[azgrandma]

WOW, 23 threads and still nothing.
We all keep going over the same few tidbits over & over. I really wish that someone could come up with that AH HA thought and figure this out! Where's Castle when you need him?

 

[DylansMom34]

WOW, 23 threads and still nothing.
We all keep going over the same few tidbits over & over. I really wish that someone could come up with that AH HA thought and figure this out! Where's Castle when you need him?

Maybe I should pull out that old crystal ball out of the basement? :floorlaugh:

 

[scorekeeper]

I was just looking at the facebook page and the admin of the site ( i think) has mentioned looking at psychics to help them.

I wonder if the family has been in contact with any of them. I often also wonder if they did, has that changed their approach of looking for Dylan?
I don't know how to say what I am thinking.....perhaps is it allowing the family to draw strenght and peace...if that is even possible.

Sorry if this post doesn't make any sense...I can't find the right words I'm looking for....:seeya:

 

[azgrandma]

there would have to be clues left that a perpetrator is on the loose

For the better part of a year LE focused on Amber Dubois' stepfather.. that is until John Gardner tried it again.

I am not saying that is what happened here (stranger abduction) but unless they can be sure what they are warning against I have not tended to see there be warnings. (there wasn't even a warning in the Sierra LaMar case and they had DNA early on with a hit to CODIS)

You are correct, in the warnings I was referring to they had a vehicle description and sketch or description of the guy. I guess when they have nothing specific to warn you about, there's really nothing they can do.

 

[Confusion]

His past behavior indicates that he can have a volatile temper when pushed and "he is capable of hurting Dylan if Dylan said something he did not like" (Elaine's words) .. I will take her word for it here.

Also taking a swing at your son after trying to grab Elaine and they move in to protect her .

He is no saint by the sounds of it and two ex wifes have said he is capable of hurting Dylan.

You wouldn't believe some of the things I've heard said about people by an ex, or soon to be ex. Some are true, some may be true, but many (and I sometimes think most) are extremely distorted versions of the truth. When asked directly if MR had EVER done anything to hurt Dylan, her response was something like, "Well no, but I don't think he knows him very well." That seems like a pretty big leap to me. MOO

 

[vasportsmom]

WOW, 23 threads and still nothing.
We all keep going over the same few tidbits over & over. I really wish that someone could come up with that AH HA thought and figure this out! Where's Castle when you need him?

Forget Castle, where is Morgan and the Criminal Minds gang?

Since you're the only one with inside info - share something new with us, lol. Either of your kids have a sweet or funny Dylan story they might let you share with us? Just something that lets us get to know him a lil better?

 

[vasportsmom]

Maybe I should pull out that old crystal ball out of the basement? :floorlaugh:

I have a magic 8 ball app on my phone if that helps. We could band together and set up a Q & A booth.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

WOW, 23 threads and still nothing.
We all keep going over the same few tidbits over & over. I really wish that someone could come up with that AH HA thought and figure this out! Where's Castle when you need him?

Yes and sadly we just keep going over and over the same things because we have nothing new! I'm sure this thread will die down soon if nothing new comes out or Dylan isn't found.

 

[Confusion]

Originally Posted by azgrandma
WOW, 23 threads and still nothing.
We all keep going over the same few tidbits over & over. I really wish that someone could come up with that AH HA thought and figure this out! Where's Castle when you need him?

Now I really feel out of it. Who's Castle? :blushing:

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Maybe I should pull out that old crystal ball out of the basement? :floorlaugh:

Will it help me write my paper, too? Please?

 

[Confusion]

I have a magic 8 ball app on my phone if that helps. We could band together and set up a Q & A booth.

I've really been trying hard not to respond to your posts, but you're just so darned quotable! Sorry...

I was going to offer a tarot card reading, but I don't think that stuff is allowed. Back to twiddling my thumbs, I guess. :banghead:

 

[mck16]

You wouldn't believe some of the things I've heard said about people by an ex, or soon to be ex. Some are true, some may be true, but many (and I sometimes think most) are extremely distorted versions of the truth. When asked directly if MR had EVER done anything to hurt Dylan, her response was something like, "Well know, but I don't think he knows him very well." That seems like a pretty big leap to me. MOO

Not only a big leap, but what have the two thoughts got to do with each other? Sentence makes no sense. jmo

 

[Dee10]

You wouldn't believe some of the things I've heard said about people by an ex, or soon to be ex. Some are true, some may be true, but many (and I sometimes think most) are extremely distorted versions of the truth. When asked directly if MR had EVER done anything to hurt Dylan, her response was something like, "Well know, but I don't think he knows him very well." That seems like a pretty big leap to me. MOO

I believe it was...doesn't treat him very well.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I've really been trying hard not to respond to your posts, but you're just so darned quotable! Sorry...

I was going to offer a tarot card reading, but I don't think that stuff is allowed. Back to twiddling my thumbs, I guess. :banghead:

Not allowed here.