CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #24

[Confusion]

There were at least 50 petitions.
I've been divorced twice. 5 Children involved. Had another child; no marriage, but many complicated child support issues. I haven't even been to court 20 times in the past 30 years with all of that. And NO, we weren't particularly agreeable people. So considering we only got a partial look at AZgrandma's case with MR, (after she moved to AZ), I would have to say the number alone blew me away.

These records are about MR's divorces. As I said, I've read them, more than a couple of times. MOO

 

[SailorMoon]

Then you must have ADORED Baez....

You know I couldn't stand Baez but I came out of that trial absolutely despising Mason. Hate him. If he were on fire I wouldn't pee on him to put him out. Baez had a job to do and somehow Forrest Gumped his way to successfulness!! Who would have thought??

Back on topic, been following just not posting anything as I don't have any more thoughts than I did. I just hope something would turn up. Is MR around, working, or do we know these days??

 

[Linda7NJ]

You know I couldn't stand Baez but I came out of that trial absolutely despising Mason. Hate him. If he were on fire I wouldn't pee on him to put him out. Baez had a job to do and somehow Forrest Gumped his way to successfulness!! Who would have thought??

Back on topic, been following just not posting anything as I don't have any more thoughts than I did. I just hope something would turn up. Is MR around, working, or do we know these days??

I totally agree with you! Pee and all!


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[LotusPawprint]

Jeffery Feiger ( spelling) is the same way in court .... I love it! I just adore smug, condescending, sarcasm and arrogant in a courtroom


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Geoffrey is crazy!
(in a brilliant way! :great

 

[cluciano63]

Nancy Grace is a bit too aggressive and doesn't listen to and analyze what her guests say, imo. Her brand of "interviewing" may work in court to throw the opposition off, but if she'd just slow down and actually "hear" what people tell her, we'd all learn more. (imo)

Why should they have any expectation anything will break? No one's talking, and no one's putting pressure on anyone. It appears to be stagnant.

I was not really thinking of NG in particular, I thought there has been some quotes from ER from other sources and yet no signs that follow up questions were asked.

Also, i guess if were my child, I would always be expecting a break, and would not be able to think long term, in planning interviews, etc. at least not until years had passed, maybe.

 

[cattlekate]

There were at least 50 petitions.
I've been divorced twice. 5 Children involved. Had another child; no marriage, but many complicated child support issues. I haven't even been to court 20 times in the past 30 years with all of that. And NO, we weren't particularly agreeable people. So considering we only got a partial look at AZgrandma's case with MR, (after she moved to AZ), I would have to say the number alone blew me away.

Similar situation. After awhile, you just stop. You want your child to love the other parent and you want the other parent to love the child unconditionally. The fact that MR requested half of two years of tax refunds, with I assume included the child tax credit, after getting out of 40K in child support for two boys, blows me away.

But that's not why I am posting. I sincerely thank redhead72 for correcting me about the requirement about background checks during gun shows which occurred after Columbine and after the Mausner family and other Columbine families fought so hard. I am grateful for the changes. I sincerely apologize for this old broad not knowing of the new rules!

I want to know if MR's clothing, as seen in Walmart, were taken away by La Plata County sheriffs within those first 48 hours. Those clothes would have evidence. A gun makes noise. Would anyone have heard on Florida Road?

 

[Cardinal47]

Just checking in to see if there is any news. Seems like everybody's chewing on the same old bone.

It's amazing. After 2 months, pages of discussion and all kinds of speculation the only things we know are:

Dylan arrived at the airport and got off the plane.
Dylan was at Walmart.
Dylans phone was last active shortly after 8:00.
Dylan is missing.

Did I miss anything?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Just checking in to see if there is any news. Seems like everybody's chewing on the same old bone.

It's amazing. After 2 months, pages of discussion and all kinds of speculation the only things we know are:

Dylan arrived at the airport and got off the plane.
Dylan was at Walmart.
Dylan's phone went dead at 8:05.
Dylan is missing.

Did I miss anything?

Haha! Nope you didn't miss a thing! That's about all we know. All these pages are pure speculation. It's pretty sad isn't it?

 

[Confusion]

Just checking in to see if there is any news. Seems like everybody's chewing on the same old bone.

It's amazing. After 2 months, pages of discussion and all kinds of speculation the only things we know are:

Dylan arrived at the airport and got off the plane.
Dylan was at Walmart.
Dylan's phone went dead at 8:05.
Dylan is missing.

Did I miss anything?

His phone was last active shortly after 8:00, but no way to know why. MOO

 

[PaulR]

Respectfully snipped ~

Can you link up the bolded part for me, please? I missed this. I didn't know we had figured out who kept filing the motions that kept the proceedings in court for so long.

Thanks,

Salem

For that matter, where it was stated that MR took a swing at Dylan?

 

[PaulR]

Dylan's phone went dead at 8:05.

No, last activity was at 8:05.

We do not know when the phone went "dead."

 

[Amster]

There were at least 50 petitions.
I've been divorced twice. 5 Children involved. Had another child; no marriage, but many complicated child support issues. I haven't even been to court 20 times in the past 30 years with all of that. And NO, we weren't particularly agreeable people. So considering we only got a partial look at AZgrandma's case with MR, (after she moved to AZ), I would have to say the number alone blew me away.

What does MR's divorce from AZgrandma have to do with Dylan and holidays? I'm always missing something.....

 

[cattlekate]

Just checking in to see if there is any news. Seems like everybody's chewing on the same old bone.

It's amazing. After 2 months, pages of discussion and all kinds of speculation the only things we know are:

Dylan arrived at the airport and got off the plane.
Dylan was at Walmart.
Dylan's phone went dead at 8:05.
Dylan is missing.

Did I miss anything?

Well, there's the Maricopa County MR filings (not documents - just motions for action), 9News' published written affidavits for protection orders, and La Plata County real estate records of MR.

 

[Angelonline]

My thoughts on ER not speaking to the press, I think someone is giving her bad advice. I'm not sure about who but I do have suspicions.

 

[Cardinal47]

His phone was last active shortly after 8:00, but no way to know why. MOO

You are right we have no idea what happened. Poor little Dylan. I will go and change that post. Thanks.

 

[Redhead72]

The State of Colorado prohibits gun registration. CRS 29-11.7-102
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/StatePatrol-Main/CBON/1251594549010

I said nothing about background checks, just registration.

Hi Rebeccaeee,
I know you spoke about not knowing, or not being able to find out if MR owned a gun or not due to registration being prohibited in CO. I included your screen name in the correction about gun purchasing in CO to the statement by Cattlekate because she had quoted your post in her response.

Just a courtesy so that you (and others) were aware that her statement was wrong in re: to buying with abandon at gun shows. Perhaps CK was confused as to the difference registration vs. background checks (I'll have to go back and look to see how she got to purchasing weapons at gun shows from talking about registration of ownership)?

Sorry for any confusion as to why I mentioned you.

 

[Cardinal47]

No, last activity was at 8:05.

We do not know when the phone went "dead."

I changed it. Thanks!

 

[Allusonz]

*my apologies as I'm once again in catch up mode so this post will very likely land randomly amidst very different discussion/topics*


I must say IMO you are not alone in your comparing these two cases.. and IMO dependant upon what one's opinion is on the most likeliest scenarios or theories in this case that led to Dylan's no longer being here, that THE COMPARISON MAY IN FACT BE WARRANTED WITH THE TWO CASES BEING MORE SIMILAR, THAN NOT..

What I mean is that IMO those whose view is dad NOT being responsible or involved in Dylan's disappearance, but rather believe that something happened to Dylan when he had left his father's home that morning while dad was gone.(and the reasons for his leaving have been numerous, as in setting off to hitchhike to friends, setting off to walk to go fishing, or setting off to walk to any number of places that are unbeknownst at this time)

So, in looking at this common theory in this case of Dylan being abducted while NOT in his dad's presence(ie.while MR was gone running morning errands/appts 7:30-11:30am).. IMO this theory or thought is in fact EXTREMELY SIMILAR in its dynamics as the Jessica Ridgeway case.. in fact much more alike than not alike and for example below I'll list a few of those extreme similarities that immediately come to mind:

•-child is alone and not under the supervision of an adult.
•-child is on foot.
•-child leaves from a parents home.
•-child is walking along road near parents home.
•-large window of time passes from point of abduction to point of being discovered as missing.

Again those are JUST the ones that IMMEDIATELY came to mind, as IMO there actually are several other similarities valid for comparison IF YOUR OF THE OPINION THAT MR IS IN NO WAY INVOLVED OR RESPONSIBLE..I am always reevaluating the case and running all theories of possibilities thru my mind in seeing if there is anything that clicks or becomes apparent that I may have missed or overlooked previously..and in recently doing so while running through the scenarios that do not in any way involve MR I kept coming to some of the constant variables that were present in the vast majority of the "dad in no way involved scenarios"(example the several above bulletpoint listed) and then it clicking that IMO ALL OF THESE CONSTANT VARIABLES&SCENARIOS HAVE MUCH MORE SIMILARITIES THAN NOT, TO THE JESSICA RIDGEWAY CASE!

and then IMO what further clicked for me was the fact that this IMO in the end only further IMO solidified that in all likelihood that these particular scenarios are not at play here in Dylan's case... that IMO in all likelihood that even when continuing to thoroughly look at and reevaluate ALL OF THESE OTHER THEORIES that do NOT involve MR, that I always come full circle leading to the most likely scenario DOES unfortunately involve dad, MR<--obviously this conclusion is a personal opinion but want to make sure and reiterate that its MOO.

This IMO leading me back to what Lotus touches on in her post above, the comparison to Jessica Ridgeway's case and IMO the fact that when looking at Dylan's case from the perspective of non-familial abduction THE SIMILARITIES ARE STRIKING IMO..I mean to a point that not only elevates the case to be warranted to a comparison with the Ridgeway case, but in doing so IMO what becomes IMO quite apparent are the drastic, huge differences that are present in the way in which all LE agencies(local, state, and FBI<*including having agents that are working BOTH CASES*>) have handled the two cases..

Both cases rightfully have a huge amount of LE agencies used and at their disposal(local, state, FBI).. and IMO the fact that when looking at Dylan's case, thoroughly evaluating the scenarios that do not involve MR WHAT EMERGES ARE STRIKINGLY SIMILAR POINT FOR POINT DETAILS PRESENT IN JESS'S CASE..

Again to emphasize this issue is IMO imperative due to the fact that IMO when I repeatedly, time and time again go over the dynamics of the non-familial abduction scenarios(ie. MR not involved scenarios/theories), ALL OF THESE THEORIES HAVE THESE SAME, CONSTANT VARIABLES THAT ARE PRESENT IN JESS'S CASE..

IMO THE IMPERATIVE ISSUE IS clearly seeing and recognizing just how glaringly apparent it is that these LE agencies(local, state, FBI) could not be handling this case, Dylan's case ANY MORE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT AND/OR OPPOSITE THAN THE RIDGEWAY CASE.. <-- IMO this NEEDS NO long, further droning on by me in explaining WHAT/WHY THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE WELL WORTH NOTING AND IMO "TELLING"..

As always tho, this is nothing more than jmo..

IMO there is one very important thing not listed here.

The one thing forgotten is that LE was searching with K9's within hours of Dylan being reported missing.

This is IMO JMO

 

[Allusonz]

So, if he didn't try to pursue visitation, he would also be a bad person? He is being called selfish because he wanted to see his son on TG? That makes no sense to me and I think that is very unfair to say.
For all we know, this may have been the only time MR had off work. Either way, we don't know and don't have the right to throw judgements around like this. MOO! :twocents:

Oh my FruitTingles. I was so crossing my fingers for a New Years baby!!

Thinking this thread needs to be on baby watch at least till the 14th :giggle:

 

[mmmagique]

IMO there is one very important thing not listed here.

The one thing forgotten is that LE was searching with K9's within hours of Dylan being reported missing.

This is IMO JMO

I know from a timeline La Plata County Search and Rescue brought the dogs on Tuesday, but I have not seen that they had the dogs there on Monday. I'm sorry to ask this, but do you have a link or a cite?