CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #24

[mck16]

Interesting that the number will be passed on to Elaine and not MR .

It is very intriguing that MR wont speak to the press , anybody would think he has something to hide !!

At the end of the day MR was the last one to see Dylan so why is it Elaine doing all the work here ?!
She can only do so much as she was not there when he vanished so it's about time MR stepped up IMO .

What is 'the number'? Don't understand that remark. Had more to say about this post, but it just isn't worth it. ty jmo

 

[LotusPawprint]

Interesting that the number will be passed on to Elaine and not MR .

It is very intriguing that MR wont speak to the press , anybody would think he has something to hide !!

At the end of the day MR was the last one to see Dylan so why is it Elaine doing all the work here ?!
She can only do so much as she was not there when he vanished so it's about time MR stepped up IMO .

I'm not sure that the number won't be passed on to MR.

The reporter posted to the Find Dylan FB page on Sunday at 6:40pm and the page admin responded that she would let the family know when she talked to them tomorrow (Mon).

Just based on my previous understanding, DH is friends with both parents and has been a neutral party so I would imagine she would let both parents know.

But that's all just speculation on my part.

 

[Dee10]

But it was pretty clear Desiree had in her mind who was guilty right away, so her need to go public was perhaps less. If MR truly has no idea what happened to Dylan, why not be more of a champion for his son, and quit worrying about what people think or say about him?

He says he wants the focus on Dylan; It is his job to make that happen. LE is doing their work in silence. If parents don't create a presence for their child, who will?

Oh I agree and the more interviews she does, it puts pressure on him to do the same or look worse/more suspicious IMO. I am sure the police would love him to do some more interviews, for that reason alone could be very helpful.

 

[mck16]

Oh I agree and the more interviews she does, it puts pressure on him to do the same or look worse/more suspicious IMO. I am sure the police would love him to do some more interviews, for that reason alone could be very helpful.

If LE wants him to do interviews they should tell him. I am sure he would do whatever they ask. jmo

 

[asyousay]

What is 'the number'? Don't understand that remark. Had more to say about this post, but it just isn't worth it. ty jmo

The press want to do a interview and the mod on the Facebook has said she will pass it on to Elaine .

 

[Dee10]

If LE wants him to do interviews they should tell him. I am sure he would do whatever they ask. jmo

Why would they have to tell him?

 

[cluciano63]

If LE wants him to do interviews they should tell him. I am sure he would do whatever they ask. jmo

That depends upon whether the one news source that printed he had hired an attorney is true or not. I doubt a lawyer would allow him to do interviews, JMO?

 

[nursebeeme]

well, if there is an interview on Sunday we can all discuss it at that point if it happens. We have no way of knowing who was contacted, if anyone is working right now, nor how any of the family members are involved in the search process.

 

[mck16]

Why would they have to tell him?

You know what, they wouldn't. ty

 

[mck16]

That depends upon whether the one news source that printed he had hired an attorney is true or not. I doubt a lawyer would allow him to do interviews, JMO?

That is true, but I thought I read a few pages back that he had not hired an attorney. Was that in error? ty

 

[cluciano63]

That is true, but I thought I read a few pages back that he had not hired an attorney. Was that in error? ty

Again, we don't know. He said he called one for advice ad one source printed that he had hired one.

 

[Salem]

ok nurse.

I think we need a list of things we're still allowed to discuss. I'm beginning to have trouble remembering everything we've been told we can't. (That is not snark. I am genuinely having trouble remembering all the things we've been warned off of here.)

Not directed at you mmmagique, just jumping off your post.

Basically the things warned against are standard, TOS topics:

Don't Bicker! It is a waste of time and mod energy. This is not a contest to see which parent is better than the other. It is obvious that this family had their problems. Every family does. No need to compare and contrast.

Treat each other respectively. There are differences of opinion here and that is okay. It is only by considering all opinions and looking at the "big" picture that we might be able to help find Dylan.

When a topic of conversation spirals into an argument between posters, it is time to move on. Let it go. We don't need to argue about it. Recognize that everyone might not see things your way, accept it, and move on. Its okay.

If you have questions, pm a mod. They will be happy to get an answer for you.

Salem

 

[FruitTingles]

I think it's terribly selfish and inconsiderate for Mark to disrupt holiday traditions of the previous three years Dylan had grown accustomed to with his mother and brother. That is no way to begin to connect with your child. IMO it's short sighted, selfish and was doomed from t he start. Imo

So, if he didn't try to pursue visitation, he would also be a bad person? He is being called selfish because he wanted to see his son on TG? That makes no sense to me and I think that is very unfair to say.
For all we know, this may have been the only time MR had off work. Either way, we don't know and don't have the right to throw judgements around like this. MOO! :twocents:

 

[Linda7NJ]

So, if he didn't try to pursue visitation, he would also be a bad person? He is being called selfish because he wanted to see his son on TG? That makes no sense to me and I think that is very unfair to say. MOO! :twocents:

I respect your opinion, I just don't share it.

IMO when someone is trying to build a relationship with a child they barely saw for the previous three years, a parent should be respectful of the child. Especially respectful if the child is 13 years old. I would urge a parent looking to build a relationship consider visiting between thanksgiving and Christmas or days between Christmas a news years as to not disrupt traditions already established.


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[catswhiskers]

Selected comments from this thread have been cut and pasted onto the other fb page - unreferenced of course. Some as recently as 2 hours ago.
I'd be ticked off if my words were being used by others to further an agenda (which in this case is never going to happen as my words don't fit/support that particular agenda). IMO people choose to post in a forum like WS so they can discuss cases with like minded, caring people - we definitely do not all agree with each other, but this forum is how we choose to express and share our ideas and opinions. If we wanted to share them on facebook we would each be doing that of our own accord.
I respectfully ask our members and visitors to keep WS posts here where they can be discussed, agreed with, refuted, expanded upon, etc. - as the original poster intended.
JMO :moo:

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

So, if he didn't try to pursue visitation, he would also be a bad person? He is being called selfish because he wanted to see his son on TG? That makes no sense to me and I think that is very unfair to say.
For all we know, this may have been the only time MR had off work. Either way, we don't know and don't have the right to throw judgements around like this. MOO! :twocents:

Hey I just noticed your signature! Congrats! :seeya:

 

[FruitTingles]

Actually, it isn't due to his press release. This is Websleuths and looking into things is pretty much what we do here. Which means everything MR says or does will be put under scrutiny because:
1. He was the last person to see Dylan alive.
2. There is a gap of missing time between Sunday 8pm and Monday morning.
3. MR does have a history of unacceptable behavior around his children.
4. MR pattern of filing Family Court motions long after the divorce is over.
5. MR took a swing at his 9-yr old son.

If this was ER, I would be just as suspicious.
I have no bone in this dogfight. I don't know either party. I look closely at the person who is most likely to have the answers I need. If those answers aren't forthcoming, I cannot simply dismiss this person because I'm "politically correct" or because he/she/they are the underdog. It is what it is...and in this case, no matter where ya go, you'll end right back up on MR's doorstep. JMO

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree with the above statement which is BBM. Are you saying that is how it is for everyone? I'm not sure you can speak for everyone else here. We all have our own opinions and while I respect yours in the above post; I keep an open mind - I have so far and will continue to. MOO.
:twocents:

 

[SmoothOperator]

*my apologies as I'm once again in catch up mode so this post will very likely land randomly amidst very different discussion/topics*

Originally Posted by Lotus Pawprint
(*c/p from previous thread to include a post of reply to it below*)

Sometimes I feel like a broken record when I compare/contrast this to Jessica's but that's what brought me to WS and it's a story that will stay with me for a long, long time.

I know the two stories are very different but nonetheless I get frustrated that Dylan isn't get more press, wondering if that would help. I know the circumstances are different, but still.

I'm not sure if the initial suggestion that he might've been a runaway hurt. I'm not sure if the age difference (10 v. 13) or gender difference had an impact.

Clearly LE was able to rule out both of Jessica's (divorced) parents relatively quickly and determined there was a dangerous predator living in the community. LE was able to release information to the public asking for help, alerted the public to be on the lookout, and were running a very well-oiled operation for everyone to see.

We don't know what's going on behind the scenes here. But we do have a child who went missing - whose backpack and cell phone have vanished without a trace. In Jessica's case, her backpack was left within a couple of days nearby her home, out as a taunt. Crime scenes were found and the wooden cross was soon discovered.

I suppose it's frustration but why is Dylan's disappearance and his stuff being wiped off the face of the earth not more of a complete, full on crisis, where every possible resource is being mobilized whereas in Jessica's case everything was used when her backpack was disposed of in the middle of the road? I'm fairly certain LE is operating this way for a reason, I just don't understand and that's frustrating and heartbreaking.

Also, that is why I'm sitting here and not working the case as a LE agent. So I guess I'm in the right place! I wish I could do more for Dylan

I must say IMO you are not alone in your comparing these two cases.. and IMO dependant upon what one's opinion is on the most likeliest scenarios or theories in this case that led to Dylan's no longer being here, that THE COMPARISON MAY IN FACT BE WARRANTED WITH THE TWO CASES BEING MORE SIMILAR, THAN NOT..

What I mean is that IMO those whose view is dad NOT being responsible or involved in Dylan's disappearance, but rather believe that something happened to Dylan when he had left his father's home that morning while dad was gone.(and the reasons for his leaving have been numerous, as in setting off to hitchhike to friends, setting off to walk to go fishing, or setting off to walk to any number of places that are unbeknownst at this time)

So, in looking at this common theory in this case of Dylan being abducted while NOT in his dad's presence(ie.while MR was gone running morning errands/appts 7:30-11:30am).. IMO this theory or thought is in fact EXTREMELY SIMILAR in its dynamics as the Jessica Ridgeway case.. in fact much more alike than not alike and for example below I'll list a few of those extreme similarities that immediately come to mind:

•-child is alone and not under the supervision of an adult.
•-child is on foot.
•-child leaves from a parents home.
•-child is walking along road near parents home.
•-large window of time passes from point of abduction to point of being discovered as missing.

Again those are JUST the ones that IMMEDIATELY came to mind, as IMO there actually are several other similarities valid for comparison IF YOUR OF THE OPINION THAT MR IS IN NO WAY INVOLVED OR RESPONSIBLE..I am always reevaluating the case and running all theories of possibilities thru my mind in seeing if there is anything that clicks or becomes apparent that I may have missed or overlooked previously..and in recently doing so while running through the scenarios that do not in any way involve MR I kept coming to some of the constant variables that were present in the vast majority of the "dad in no way involved scenarios"(example the several above bulletpoint listed) and then it clicking that IMO ALL OF THESE CONSTANT VARIABLES&SCENARIOS HAVE MUCH MORE SIMILARITIES THAN NOT, TO THE JESSICA RIDGEWAY CASE!

and then IMO what further clicked for me was the fact that this IMO in the end only further IMO solidified that in all likelihood that these particular scenarios are not at play here in Dylan's case... that IMO in all likelihood that even when continuing to thoroughly look at and reevaluate ALL OF THESE OTHER THEORIES that do NOT involve MR, that I always come full circle leading to the most likely scenario DOES unfortunately involve dad, MR<--obviously this conclusion is a personal opinion but want to make sure and reiterate that its MOO.

This IMO leading me back to what Lotus touches on in her post above, the comparison to Jessica Ridgeway's case and IMO the fact that when looking at Dylan's case from the perspective of non-familial abduction THE SIMILARITIES ARE STRIKING IMO..I mean to a point that not only elevates the case to be warranted to a comparison with the Ridgeway case, but in doing so IMO what becomes IMO quite apparent are the drastic, huge differences that are present in the way in which all LE agencies(local, state, and FBI<*including having agents that are working BOTH CASES*>) have handled the two cases..

Both cases rightfully have a huge amount of LE agencies used and at their disposal(local, state, FBI).. and IMO the fact that when looking at Dylan's case, thoroughly evaluating the scenarios that do not involve MR WHAT EMERGES ARE STRIKINGLY SIMILAR POINT FOR POINT DETAILS PRESENT IN JESS'S CASE..

Again to emphasize this issue is IMO imperative due to the fact that IMO when I repeatedly, time and time again go over the dynamics of the non-familial abduction scenarios(ie. MR not involved scenarios/theories), ALL OF THESE THEORIES HAVE THESE SAME, CONSTANT VARIABLES THAT ARE PRESENT IN JESS'S CASE..

IMO THE IMPERATIVE ISSUE IS clearly seeing and recognizing just how glaringly apparent it is that these LE agencies(local, state, FBI) could not be handling this case, Dylan's case ANY MORE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT AND/OR OPPOSITE THAN THE RIDGEWAY CASE.. <-- IMO this NEEDS NO long, further droning on by me in explaining WHAT/WHY THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE WELL WORTH NOTING AND IMO "TELLING"..

As always tho, this is nothing more than jmo..

 

[mijamawi]

I respect your opinion, I just don't share it.

IMO when someone is trying to build a relationship with a child they barely saw for the previous three years, a parent should be respectful of the child. Especially respectful if the child is 13 years old. I would urge a parent looking to build a relationship consider visiting between thanksgiving and Christmas or days between Christmas a news years as to not disrupt traditions already established.


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Do we know he never spent Thanksgiving or Christmas with his dad before?

 

[catswhiskers]

Hey I just noticed your signature! Congrats! :seeya:

Yikes - I don't see signatures on my ipad !! What's the baby news!? FruitTingles - spill the beans for me please?