CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #25

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With the Hailey Dunn case, we were all on pins and needles because we were sure that Shawn Adkins was about to be arrested. Especially after Billie was arrested for hiding him in her house that day. But all this time later, and the case is as good as over. :cry:

And ditto with precious Ayla Reynolds. It became obvious at some point that it was an inside job. I was defending her father for quite awhile, hoping he was just being falsely accused. But as time went on, it did not look good for him. But there have been no arrests.

An d little Sky M. [cannot spell it.] So OBVIOUS that his poor excuse for a mother did something bad to him. But she is free as a bird.
 
I look at Dylan's threads everyday, but I can't seem to find the right words to express my sadness that he has not yet been found. I just want something positive on one of these extra tough ones (all of the cases here are tough, but some pull at my heartstrings more than others for whatever reason.) Sigh.
 
just my opinion but...

I really don't see how anyone can continue to make excuses for MR in this case with him not making himself available, not answering questions, not agreeing to another polygraph (if that statement is true,) and "laying low."

It smacks of guilt IMO.

That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it!
 
just my opinion but...

I really don't see how anyone can continue to make excuses for MR in this case with him not making himself available, not answering questions, not agreeing to another polygraph (if that statement is true,) and "laying low."

It smacks of guilt IMO.

That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it!

If he's still cooperating with LE, then that's all that really matters to me. If LE states he's no longer cooperating, then I will cross that bridge when I get there. It's not so much making excuses for him rather it's wanting to get all the info before I fry someone. IMO
 
Did the police state that MR has refused to take another polygraph? Did they describe him as being uncooperative? Forgive me if I missed the info about this and thank you!!
 
I don't think that LE addresses polygraph issues very often.

In Kyron's case, the info about TH's polygraphs seemed to all come from Desiree and later Kaine, yet nearly everyone on WS took their word for it. They spoke out in frustration, the same as I feel that Elaine and Cory are doing. i believe them.
 
I think LE are good about saying there is more Xperson needs to do to cooperate, even if they don't get details.

I want to hear LE imply that MR isn't cooperating to their expectations anymore, if that is true.
 
*as is usual my disclaimer of apologies for being so far behind and this post landing randomly amidst much different discussion/topics*

IMO - the fact the DR went missing immediately (and not a situation where he just didn't return home at the end of the trip) and that there were no def T'day plans indicates it was premeditated. Maybe it was done immediately so that the perp didn't lose his nerve (by spending too much time with DR and feeling too bonded to make him disappear).
While I have openly expressed my opinion of MR's possible involvement in his son's "disappearance".. I have however stayed planted firmly atop the fence WRT it being premeditated or not..

The above tho, disturbing, extremely sad, and cold it does however bring up a possibility that I'd not ever thought of..yet equally sad IMO I do find it to be a disturbing possibility..jmo.

FMDR FB page shared a video link on Saturday to a youtube vid done of the search. In it, Dylan's good friends are shown at the end discussing the text messages, timleine, etc and they share the now infamous story of Dylan hitching a ride home for them from the library in the snow. What is important is that they say this is the ONLY time they have seen him hitch.
Thanks for this IMO it just further supports what some opinions have been all along in that Dylan by no means whatsoever was a regular, or even frequent hitchhiker..IMO not even an occasional one, either.jmo.. much different in that he along with all his friends, walking home from the library in the cold&snow, HAD ON ONE OCCASION HITCHED A RIDE FOR ALL OF THEM.. One incident..one time..and under EXTREMELY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES did this one time incident happen..

IMO there is absolutely nothing at all that leads me to believe that Dylan had a pattern of hitchhiking, nor that he had ever even again attempted to hitchhike...there is one incident that every single circumstance within which the incident occurred is drastically different than what's proposed to have been on the day of his disappearance..jmo, tho.

If I were a LE investigator, these are some questions I would have had, because Dylan's lack of communication after 8pm Sunday night is such a looming issue:

1) Did Dylan have his phone charger?

2) Could Dylan still make calls/text while his phone was charging? (so a dead battery wouldn't matter once he got to Mark's)

3) Did Mark confiscate Dylan's phone Sunday night so Dylan wouldn't be distracted?

4) Does Mark know if the phone was dropped or broken in some way?

5) Did Dylan have a pre-paid cell phone?

6) We know Mark said that before he left Monday morning, he told the sleeping Dylan to contact him if Dylan needed anything. Did Mark expect Dylan to contact him via Dylan's cellphone? Or was Dylan's phone still confiscated (and put in a place Dylan would not be able to find)? Did Mark expect Dylan to call him using the landline?

7) Had Dylan used the internet at Mark's house in the past? Did you need a password to use Mark's computer, and, if so, did Dylan possibly know the password?

Obviously LE would have Mark's landline records, so they would know if Dylan made any calls Monday morning, and there has been no indication he did.
Numbered above questions so I could easily identify each..and yes, I'm certain one or more before me has already answered these, but my going through and listing what's answered vs what's NOT answered is just as much for me to refresh my brain..

1) This for certain has been addressed by Elaine in stating that yes, Dylan had his cell phone charger packed in his bag.. also IIRC its been addressed that this item was one of the several that were taken and missing along with Dylan.(ie. Meaning if going with the theory that Dylan set out of his own free will walking from his fathers home, that the charger was in his bag he'd taken with him)

2) Yes, absolutely he would still have access to everything in his cell phone(ie. Contacts&phone numbers for friends/fam, along with ability to send/receive texts).. and as we've heard from MR, himself he was successfully texting from his home all day Monday when Dylan had gone missing)

3) NOT ANSWERED..Definitely a question that TMK none of us have the answer..
MOO is that regardless of what theory each of us are leaning toward this question is one of the top three in everyone's list...tho, differing opinions on if found to be true, what would have been the true motive for MR choosing to take away Dylan's access to his cell phone..

4) TMK we do not have this exact question actually verbally addressed and answered by MR...but I will say that IMO there are definite known actions on the part of MR which IMO directly indicate that MR did not believe the phone to have been broken, smashed, or any other manner which would render Dylan's cell phone of no use.
I say this due to the fact that according to MR, himself he throughout Monday 11/19 continued to text Dylan's cell phone attempting to make contact with his son.. take it FWIW but it leads me to believe if MR was texting his son with full intentions on his son replying..well..IMO one would think he therefor was working under the assumption his son's phone was in working order.jmo.

5) No, Dylan's cell phone was not a pay-as-you-go/purchase mins/pre-paid cell phone.. Elaine has addressed this issue and stated that his phone was actually on a monthly billed cell service provider plan.

6) NOT answered.. This IMO is obviously a question ONLY ONE PERSON has the ability to answer, MR. I would hope that tho, we don't know, that LE however have and have had the answer to these type questions.

7) TMK no answer to this exact question...but we do know that at no point, minutes after 8:00pm, Sunday 11/18 Dylan ever logged into or even accessed any of his social media sites(Facebook, gaming, instagram, etc).. therefor IMO that leads me to believe in all likelihood that Dylan for whatever reasons(ie. Due to his not having the password to dad's internet, or due to his never even being at dad's home, or due to his simply not choosing to go on dad's internet) never used/accessed/logged on any of his dad's internet devices(ie. computer, iPad, iPod, etc).
 
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That sounds to me like it is becoming a cold case. If they are working on in while working other cases then it is no longer a top priority. JMO

And it makes me wonder if they are thinking like Elaine said that somebody has him!
 
If he's still cooperating with LE, then that's all that really matters to me. If LE states he's no longer cooperating, then I will cross that bridge when I get there. It's not so much making excuses for him rather it's wanting to get all the info before I fry someone. IMO

Honestly I don't think this LE would say one way or the other!
 
And it makes me wonder if they are thinking like Elaine said that somebody has him!

I think that is simply Elaine's only hope. Not to harp on the Horman case, but Desiree went through months of being convinced that someone was hiding Kyron, until she seemingly started to face up to probable reality.
 
Folks, we have allowed the discussion of Dylan's father in this case because there are a lot of questions surrounding Dylan's disappearance and he was the last person known to see him prior to his disappeance.

We do not know what happened to Dylan or who is responsible. It is not a foregone conclusion that MR is responsible for the disappearance of his son.

We are web sleuths and as web sleuths, we'd like to see any and all possibilities as to what may have happened to Dylan discussed here. Any members chastising other members for putting forth alternative theories will be hit with hefty timeouts.

All reasonable theories and discussion of facts are welcome in this thread.

Please carry on and let's do what we do best.

Thank you.

folks this is our owner's post about this topic.

There is nothing different here on this thread other then discussion that was opened on Mr. Redwine because he was last seen with his son. There is to be no outright blaming or finger pointing which is also posted under the opening post of this thread.
 
I'm still waiting (somewhat) patiently to get permission to go into more depth about things. It hardly seems worth it until then. MOO

You have my permission to go into more depth about things! I am very interested in what you have to say!
 
I am not convinced that MR is guilty. But then nor am I convinced that Terri Horman is guilty of harming Kyron. Yet both give reason to make me doubt their stories. jMO
 
You have my permission to go into more depth about things! I am very interested in what you have to say!

You'll probably get over that quickly once I start talking. :giggle: It's mainly just about the phone, but I'm too lazy to look up links, so I'm waiting.
 
folks: the back and forth banter about who does or does not support Mark Redwine is not what we are discussing on this thread. Discuss the case. Review the timeline thread. But the back and forth sniping of one another ends here.
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I just have to keep coming back and reading to see if anything is new.

I just can't keep beating a dead horse with absolutely no new information.
 
I just have to keep coming back and reading to see if anything is new.

I just can't keep beating a dead horse with absolutely no new information.

Did you see the new interviews with ER & CR? Someone posted them earlier today.
 
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