CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #25

[Dee10]

A) Mark has not come out and accused her of doing something to their son and B) No one was accused her publically of murdering her child.

Those are the two biggest differences I see as to why she would still be talking to the public and he would not. Again, HUGE difference. It's apples and oranges.

She is going to talk to the media to try and get her son back regardless of what people say or think about her. MR has made a choice not to talk to media. The last person with a child is always under scrutiny and it may not be fair to an innocent person, but that is the way it is. The way I see it, he can go into a self-preservation mode or fight back; do interviews, take all the polys they want, search, work with ER & CR. Bottom line, life isn't fair; Dylan is a perfect example of that.

 

[Seajay]

She is going to talk to the media to try and get her son back regardless of what people say or think about her. MR has made a choice not to talk to media. The last person with a child is always under scrutiny and it may not be fair to an innocent person, but that is the way it is. The way I see it, he can go into a self-preservation mode or fight back; do interviews, take all the polys they want, search, work with ER & CR. Bottom line, life isn't fair; Dylan is a perfect example of that.

If I were her, I would do exactly all that stuff. She's not the one under suspicion, so I'd do all the interviews, etc. But if I were him, I would not. She's not the one being torn up online and in the media. She's not the one being accused by her ex of harming her child. She was many miles away.

If she was the one who had him when he disappeared, and the shoe was on the other foot, I wouldn't do any interviews, etc. if I were her.

I can understand, they both want their son back, but one of them is under suspicion, so there is only so much that one can do, everything he does it under scrutiny. He's a pariah right now. He can't do anything right.

The other is the fair haired child who is not under a microscope. She has the freedom to do whatever it is she wants to do about this.

I feel terrible for both of them. My heart goes out to them because they do not know where their child is or if he's ever coming back. I can't imagine much that is scarier than that. JMO

 

[Seajay]

I just want him to come home safe. I want him to be alive and to recount a great adventure. I know as time passes this is less likely.

It gets harder every day to believe he's alive and well. If he was abducted, who knows what horrors he is experiencing and I don't want that for him, any more than I want for him to be deceased at the hands of someone who was suppose to love and protect him always.

I know it happens all the time. But I just haven't been feeling it in this case. I just haven't felt his father did something to him.

I want to thank those who have had patience with me in this. I could be way wrong. But then I could be right and if I am, I want to know that I wasn't judgmental or unfair to someone who is going through one of the worst times of his life but making it worse for him. JMO.

 

[Crimson clover]

:luv:

I just want him to come home safe. I want him to be alive and to recount a great adventure. I know as time passes this is less likely.

It gets harder every day to believe he's alive and well. If he was abducted, who knows what horrors he is experiencing and I don't want that for him, any more than I want for him to be deceased at the hands of someone who was suppose to love and protect him always.

I know it happens all the time. But I just haven't been feeling it in this case. I just haven't felt his father did something to him.

I want to thank those who have had patience with me in this. I could be way wrong. But then I could be right and if I am, I want to know that I wasn't judgmental or unfair to someone who is going through one of the worst times of his life but making it worse for him. JMO.

:luv: Sleuth on, Seajay... Your voice for Dylan is being heard!

 

[princessk]

Sure, and then it's all "doth protest too much."

Good excuse

 

[cluciano63]

I wonder how Dylan would feel, if he ever did return alive, to hear that his father refused to talk to his brother or his mom. And cut off contact with the media, apparently preferring to hole up and maintain silence.

Of course, perhaps MR knows that won't happen.

 

[mijamawi]

Good excuse

Indeed it is.

 

[mijamawi]

I wonder how Dylan would feel, if he ever did return alive, to hear that his father refused to talk to his brother or his mom. And cut off contact with the media, apparently preferring to hole up and maintain silence.

Of course, perhaps MR knows that won't happen.

I wonder how he would feel to hear that his mom accused his dad of harming him. IMO

 

[SCHMAE]

I guess how Dylan will feel will depend fully on where he's been and whose fault it is .

 

[cluciano63]

I wonder how he would feel to hear that his mom accused his dad of harming him. IMO

From what has been indicated, he may have tried to hurt him at least once before, with the throwing of a punch.

 

[mijamawi]

From what has been indicated, he may have tried to hurt him at least once before, with the throwing of a punch.

Yet he still got visitation.

 

[cluciano63]

Yet he still got visitation.

Yes, poor Dylan. Judges have made bad decisions many times in the past, leading to tragedy. This could be another one.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Believe it.

IIRC, he has said he didn't do anything and he preferred the focus to be on finding his son. The only people that can prove he had nothing to do with it is LE, not the media. He's cooperating with LE.

can you please provide a link where MR said he didn't do anything.

IIRC he has said that he doesn't want the focus to be on him

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Yet he still got visitation.

So did Josh Powell.

 

[princessk]

I just want him to come home safe. I want him to be alive and to recount a great adventure. I know as time passes this is less likely.

It gets harder every day to believe he's alive and well. If he was abducted, who knows what horrors he is experiencing and I don't want that for him, any more than I want for him to be deceased at the hands of someone who was suppose to love and protect him always.

I know it happens all the time. But I just haven't been feeling it in this case. I just haven't felt his father did something to him.

I want to thank those who have had patience with me in this. I could be way wrong. But then I could be right and if I am, I want to know that I wasn't judgmental or unfair to someone who is going through one of the worst times of his life but making it worse for him. JMO.

I really do hope you are right, but things are not adding up that way. If it turns out dad has nothing to do with this, I will be overjoyed and apologetic. At this point, I just wish Dylan would be found. Preferably alive, but even if he is not, at least maybe this family would have some closure and hopefully some answers.

 

[princessk]

So did Josh Powell.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

 

[Dixie811]

I'm hoping I can post these thoughts without offending those who feel so passionately about this case and vehemently defend their point of view. It is only my opinion, and really I am just thinking out loud here.

From the first week, I did not get the feeling that MR believed Dylan to be alive (when he suggested that he thought the lake should have been searched sooner, etc.). I prefer to look at this reaction objectively and not say that this is definitely because MR had something to do with Dylan's demise. If MR has lost hope that Dylan is alive, perhaps he does not feel that media interviews (which indeed, result in more mud slinging) will be helpful. Maybe he is not expecting anyone to spot his thirteen-year-old walking around Colorado alive. ETA: we have discussed the CO winters, and that if there is a body it will likely not be found until Spring.

This being said (and whatever it may imply) I am absolutely keeping in mind that what matters most (in my eyes) is MR's cooperation with LE; rather than his interaction with the media. The fact that I would react differently if it were my own child is irrelevant.

I also hesitate to put 100% trust in the quote from CR that MR has refused a second polygraph. It's quite possible that this was relayed to him by LE, but I would feel more comfortable with that information if it had come from LE.

MOO.

 

[princessk]

I'm hoping I can post these thoughts without offending those who feel so passionately about this case and vehemently defend their point of view. It is only my opinion, and really I am just thinking out loud here.

From the first week, I did not get the feeling that MR believed Dylan to be alive (when he suggested that he thought the lake should have been searched sooner, etc.). I prefer to look at this reaction objectively and not say that this is definitely because MR had something to do with Dylan's demise. If MR has lost hope that Dylan is alive, perhaps he does not feel that media interviews (which indeed, result in more mud slinging) will be helpful. Maybe he is not expecting anyone to spot his thirteen-year-old walking around Colorado alive. ETA: we have discussed the CO winters, and that if there is a body it will likely not be found until Spring.

This being said (and whatever it may imply) I am absolutely keeping in mind that what matters most (in my eyes) is MR's cooperation with LE; rather than his interaction with the media. The fact that I would react differently if it were my own child is irrelevant.

I also hesitate to put 100% trust in the quote from CR that MR has refused a second polygraph. It's quite possible that this was relayed to him by LE, but I would feel more comfortable with that information if it had come from LE.

MOO.

I would LOVE to see CR join and give us his thoughts. That would be so awesome.

 

[SmoothOperator]

And this all goes back to him cooperating with LE. He's doing that. He doesn't owe anyone an interview with a reporter.

IMO as a father to Dylan he owes it ONLY TO HIS YOUNGEST SON, DYLAN to do whatever it takes to find him and bring him home..(even if that means a no longer alive Dylan he deserves to be brought home and laid to rest as his family so sees fitting)..obviously jmo, tho.

That is fine, he probably won't have to worry about those pesky reporters much longer, when something new comes along. Good luck to him later on, getting media attention, if he decides he does want it.

*post below is in reply to the above post*

Why so much venom? I'm honestly curious.

Venom?..IMO the post above is not at all spewing venom, it is very succinctly expressing the frustration felt by many who see how someone who has the media's attention to use as one of the best tools possible to find your missing child IS BEING OUTRIGHT UNWILLING TO USE the "gift" that hundreds of other parents of missing children would LITERALLY GIVE THEIR VERY OWN LIFE TO HAVE THIS TOOL AVAILABLE THEM TO HELP TO FIND AND BRING HOME THEIR CHILD..

Its not at all IMO unusual for someone...anyone to be frustrated when seeing such a very real opportunity to help find a parent's missing child..to see the door literally shut and closed on such an opportunity is frustrating..jmo

(*a)
Ive never seen anything stating that MR was with him when he went missing either.

(*b)
Cory may have said that he refuses to take one, but LE has said that both parents took one and continue to cooperate. I guess we can all choose to believe whoever we want to. MOO

(*I labeled the above 2 statements as (*a) and (*b) so as to distinguish my replies to each*)
(*a)
In speaking of the above IMO its quite evident exactly what the post to which the above is a reply, is speaking of the clear fact that the parent, the quite literal court appointed legal guardian of Dylan at the time he went "missing" is his father, MR.. NOT brother, CR..and NOT mother ER..But only father, MR had both legal and physical custody of his youngest son, Dylan during the time in which Dylan "disappeared"..<-- while this IMO is FACT, however my reply to what is the meaning of Eileen730's post is merely JMO.

(*b)
ITA that we all have the freedom of choice to believe whomever we choose..but IMO it gets awfully concerning when we must believe EVERYONE ELSE IS ALWAYS LYING WHEN IT COMES TO MR..
WRT to this specific issue IMO its not LE vs CR as is implied above.. IMO that's a manipulation of sorts due to the fact the statement made by LE that's being referred to above has zero to do with Cory's statement.. the comparison is flawed due to the fact that the two are separate and in no way connected ..meaning that quite literally in this scenario ONE does not have to be a lie in order for THE OTHER ONE to be true..they are mutually exclusive to one another. Jmo.

I'm sure they'll be more than happy to give him an interview, if and when he decides it's in the best interest of the return of his son to do so. But for right now, what I see is all his words being twisted to mean something he never said.

He doesn't "owe" the news media anything. So far, they have done him no favors. Nothing he's done to date has gotten his son returned to him.

And, he's still cooperating with LE, which is what is going to get his son back. The people in his community know Dylan is missing and what he looks like. And they are on the lookout. Word has gotten out regardless of him giving interviews.

What would really count in getting the word out about Dylan would be a press release or conference from LE. That's what Mark should be working on, not appeasing nosey people who just want to twist his words and judge him. JMBOO.

Again we here, as well as any member of the public are imo irrelevant to the fact that he, as Dylan's father OWES IT TO NO ONE BUT HIS SON, DYLAN to do everything humanly possible to ensure Dylan is found and brought home.. IMO keeping his son's face at the forefront is imperative in this situation(especially if its true that MR isn't involved and his son is the victim of a stranger/loose acquaintance, random abduction).. ESPECIALLY IF THATS TRUE THEN ITS CRITICAL TO KEEP DYLANS FACE AND NAME OUT THERE!

Doing so is not for me, or for any other member of the community or public.. THATS FOR ONE AND ONLY ONE PERSON..HIS YOUNGEST SON, DYLAN..

Besides doesn't everyone remember that MR, himself has stated publicly to NOT worry about him(MR) that everything's gonna be absolutely fine on his end?

 

[Dixie811]

I would LOVE to see CR join and give us his thoughts. That would be so awesome.

Agreed, PrincessK!

Or better yet, Dylan :\