CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #25

[princessk]

Thanks for the response, but I'm still not aware of MR stating that he knows Dylan was abducted, which was my original question.

Obviously MR knows whether he did it or not - but there's a big difference between MR knowing he is innocent and MR knowing whether DR was abducted or not. If I'm not being clear, please let me know.

Not clear.

 

[rebeccaeee]

When would you stop?

Look at Etan Patz's parents. Same apartment, same phone number. 30+ years later.

 

[TxLady2]

Sorry princessk - I did miss understand. I thought you were referring to this video: http://www.krdo.com/news/Redwine-fa...ance/-/417220/18076238/-/npdmtsz/-/index.html

and that maybe you had seen another video with more information.

Sorry for the confusion.

Salem

I call that backtracking, don't know what anyone else calls it.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Thanks for the response, but I'm still not aware of MR stating that he knows Dylan was abducted, which was my original question.

Obviously MR knows whether he did it or not - but there's a big difference between MR knowing he is innocent and MR knowing whether DR was abducted or not. If I'm not being clear, please let me know.

LE has stated that they do not believe Dylan ran away. SOOOOOO....if MR knows that he didn't do anything to harm Dylan then he knows he was abducted and/or killed by someone else. What other options are there?

 

[PaulR]

Not clear.

Thanks, let me try this again.

MR knows whether he is innocent or guilty. Say he is innocent for the sake of this discussion.

LE ruled out Dylan running away. So the two choices we are looking at is either him being in the lake (either fallen in or killed and placed there), or him being abducted (and either being alive or dead.)

Assuming MR knows as much as we do, how would he know if Dylan was in the lake or abducted if he was innocent?

 

[PaulR]

LE has stated that they do not believe Dylan ran away. SOOOOOO....if MR knows that he didn't do anything to harm Dylan then he knows he was abducted or killed by someone else. What other options are there?

LE hasn't ruled out Dylan being in the lake. If they have, please let me know because AFAIK they have not.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I would camp in front of the police station. If it took me the rest of my life, there would be no rock left un-turned (literally). I would do whatever I could to get on television, even if it was negative attention directed at me...oh wait I have done that for a strangers child!

I can't think of any parent of a missing child who camped outside the police station. :waitasec: And many parents do whatever they can to get on TV, and don't have any luck. Someone wrote on Dylan's FB page that they've been trying to get someone's case on AMW for the past 3 years, and have received no response.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Thanks for the response, but I'm still not aware of MR stating that he knows Dylan was abducted, which was my original question.

Obviously MR knows whether he did it or not - but there's a big difference between MR knowing he is innocent and MR knowing whether DR was abducted or not. If I'm not being clear, please let me know.

Sorry IMO I was crystal clear in what and how MR knows and most understand completely what I said and meant..

moving along now as its apparent this is going no where... :seeya:

 

[Tennlyn]

Can I tell you all what keeps making me sad and angry? And I don't mean this as a snark or even a criticism per say, but it will probably sound like one. Oh, and also, I'm not talking about the folks here at Websleuths per se, but society at large.

Too many folks give parents the benefit of the doubt when it comes to missing kids, possible child abuse, etc. They don't want to believe it so they deny it and deny it and deny it. They go out of their way to find a stranger or some other explanation.

How about instead we give a good hard look at the parents to ensure there isn't anything wrong there? Let's not just automatically assume that every parent is a loving parent. Me, I'll err on the side of the child every time. Parents do hurt their kids and I refuse to add to that by ignoring reality. (Thanks, Raine, for posting the "Hell is for Children" video on the other thread.)

In this case...well, we have 3 adult sons, all seem to be successful and intelligent, and all 3 are estranged from MR. That to me is a huge red flag (in fact 3 red flags!) that maybe MR isn't a good, loving Dad. So, yea, I'm going to keep taking a good hard look to see if I think MR is involved.

And yes, I took a good hard look at Elaine early on, but I could see nothing suspicious there, and in fact, much to admire! Since we aren't sleuthing ER, I'll just leave it at that.

All this has been MOO, JMO, ETC. Thanks for letting me vent.

 

[PaulR]

Someone wrote on Dylan's FB page that they've been trying to get someone's case on AMW for the past 3 years, and have received no response.

That's terrible I know AMW probably has too many cases to air each week, but still, that's got to be heartbreaking.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I can't think of any parent of a missing child who camped outside the police station. :waitasec: And many parents do whatever they can to get on TV, and don't have any luck. Someone wrote on Dylan's FB page that they've been trying to get someone's case on AMW for the past 3 years, and have received no response.

This is sad but true. And the older a case gets the less the media wants it. It's not 'breaking news' any more and there are always new missing persons cases that are hot off the press and much more exciting.

This is why I'm glad to see Elaine trying to get out there before people lose interest.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Can I tell you all what keeps making me sad and angry? And I don't mean this as a snark or even a criticism per say, but it will probably sound like one. Oh, and also, I'm not talking about the folks here at Websleuths per se, but society at large.

Too many folks give parents the benefit of the doubt when it comes to missing kids, possible child abuse, etc. They don't want to believe it so they deny it and deny it and deny it. They go out of their way to find a stranger or some other explanation.

How about instead we give a good hard look at the parents to ensure there isn't anything wrong there? Let's not just automatically assume that every parent is a loving parent. Me, I'll err on the side of the child every time. Parents do hurt their kids and I refuse to add to that by ignoring reality. (Thanks, Raine, for posting the "Hell is for Children" video on the other thread.)

In this case...well, we have 3 adult sons, all seem to be successful and intelligent, and all 3 are estranged from MR. That to me is a huge red flag (in fact 3 red flags!) that maybe MR isn't a good, loving Dad. So, yea, I'm going to keep taking a good hard look to see if I think MR is involved.

And yes, I took a good hard look at Elaine early on, but I could see nothing suspicious there, and in fact, much to admire! Since we aren't sleuthing ER, I'll just leave it at that.

All this has been MOO, JMO, ETC. Thanks for letting me vent.

I disagree. I think most people consider the parents to be main suspects in these missing child cases, unless it is made very clear that they weren't involved.

 

[TxJan1971]

Thanks for the response, but I'm still not aware of MR stating that he knows Dylan was abducted, which was my original question.

Obviously MR knows whether he did it or not - but there's a big difference between MR knowing he is innocent and MR knowing whether DR was abducted or not. If I'm not being clear, please let me know.

BBM

I haven't read anything in MSM where MR has used the word abducted. From the article below, it appears that MR may believe 1 of 2 things happened.

1) Something happened at the lake
2) Dylan was hitchhiking and a stranger picked him up (reporter's words) and Dylan is "not in the area" (MR's words)

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22063185


Reporter: Mark Redwine said Sunday that he hadn't been able to find the boy's fishing rod.

MR: "I question why it has taken this long to start scouring the lake because from Day One they have known it is likely he had a fishing pole with him," Redwine, 52, said.

Reporter: Information he received from the boy's friends suggests that Dylan was hitchhiking when he disappeared, Redwine said.

MR: "It sounds to me like he's not even in the area," he said.

Reporter: He said he is concerned that a stranger could have picked up the teen and abducted him.

 

[Wild@Heart]

I can't think of any parent of a missing child who camped outside the police station. :waitasec: And many parents do whatever they can to get on TV, and don't have any luck. Someone wrote on Dylan's FB page that they've been trying to get someone's case on AMW for the past 3 years, and have received no response.

All the more reason to camp at the police station.:seeya:

 

[NC Analyzer]

Can I tell you all what keeps making me sad and angry? And I don't mean this as a snark or even a criticism per say, but it will probably sound like one. Oh, and also, I'm not talking about the folks here at Websleuths per se, but society at large.

Too many folks give parents the benefit of the doubt when it comes to missing kids, possible child abuse, etc. They don't want to believe it so they deny it and deny it and deny it. They go out of their way to find a stranger or some other explanation.

How about instead we give a good hard look at the parents to ensure there isn't anything wrong there? Let's not just automatically assume that every parent is a loving parent. Me, I'll err on the side of the child every time. Parents do hurt their kids and I refuse to add to that by ignoring reality. (Thanks, Raine, for posting the "Hell is for Children" video on the other thread.)

In this case...well, we have 3 adult sons, all seem to be successful and intelligent, and all 3 are estranged from MR. That to me is a huge red flag (in fact 3 red flags!) that maybe MR isn't a good, loving Dad. So, yea, I'm going to keep taking a good hard look to see if I think MR is involved.

And yes, I took a good hard look at Elaine early on, but I could see nothing suspicious there, and in fact, much to admire! Since we aren't sleuthing ER, I'll just leave it at that.

All this has been MOO, JMO, ETC. Thanks for letting me vent.

I think this is a wonderful post! I absolutely agree with everything you said.

 

[mijamawi]

What if LE has no answers? Then what?

How would we know? I'm guessing the family is pretty much getting the same as the general public.

Because MR was the last seen with Dylan. He has the last pieces of information we have before Dylan's disappearance. Of course he is held to a different standard.

But Dylan is still the son of both ER and MR, so both should be knocking on all doors to get his name out there. My point was before this last interview of ER, when was the last?

 

[TxJan1971]

Look at Etan Patz's parents. Same apartment, same phone number. 30+ years later.

I believe Jacob Wetterling's parents still live in the same house, too. Jacob was kidnapped October 22, 1989 while riding his bike home from the local Tom Thumb convenience store with his brother and friend.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I believe Jacob Wetterling's parents still live in the same house, too. Jacob was kidnapped October 22, 1989 while riding his bike home from the local Tom Thumb convenience store with his brother and friend.

Haley Dunns mom sure wasted no time painting the interior, ditching the sofa and then moving....

Sorry for the OT


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[eileenhawkeye]

This is sad but true. And the older a case gets the less the media wants it. It's not 'breaking news' any more and there are always new missing persons cases that are hot off the press and much more exciting.

This is why I'm glad to see Elaine trying to get out there before people lose interest.

Well as for, "the older the case, the less the media is interested"....Yes that is pretty much true, but there are some old cases that are just so notorious at this point, that people directly connected to those cases could probably get on TV much easier than some more recent cases. But this is a very small handful of cases.

I have noticed that most parents of missing children will aim at getting their child's case on a show that specifically focus on true crime; such as 48 Hours, Investigation Discovery, AMW, Dateline, Nancy Grace's 50 Missing Children in 50 Days, etc. That seems to be the focus, rather than trying to get ABC/CBS/FOX/MSNBC/CNN to do a story on the case, without any new development.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

How would we know? I'm guessing the family is pretty much getting the same as the general public.

Bingo!! I think Elaine is starting to realize that LE may not have much and has decided its time for her to get out there and do whatever she can to help find her son.