CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #25

[Confusion]

I don't agree with that. My husband is a private person, and he would look like the guiltiest person on earth if he were in this situation. He just does not bare his soul to anyone, not even me. It's like pulling teeth to get him to say what he thinks sometimes. And as far as talking to reporters... yeah, if they asked him about a car or a pickup or something to do with woodworking, he'd talk all day. But not about anything that would require him to talk about his feelings.
As far making a plea on t.v. for a missing child??? Nope, forget it. He would not. He will cry... he just won't talk about it. It's not that he doesn't have feelings, he does. He just has a hard time expressing himself when he's emotional.

When something traumatic/devastating happens in my family, I tend to be one who looks for answers/solutions. There's no way I'd go on television and cry, beg anybody for anything, tell a bunch of strangers things that I consider personal, or any of the other things that most people consider to be normal for a mother to do. I let the people oriented people in the family deal with the feelings part, and I'll deal with the thinking part. I believe we all have our own place in the equation. MOO

Over recent years, I have lost both of my parents, a step parent, both grandmothers, a cousin, 3 aunts, 3 uncles and several friends/acquaintances. Nobody ever saw me shed a tear, nor did they expect to. It has nothing to do with caring, and I don't believe that MR not speaking out or falling apart means that he doesn't care either. MOO again!

 

[asyousay]

Please state where anyone in this thread has stated that Cory is lying - as opposed to being misinformed.

So who has miss informed him , LE?


He willl know a lot more than the people on here and his reactions are anger at MR . I do not think he is misinformed .

 

[sreshowtime]

need a refresher- was this court ordered visit SPECIFIC to this visit on those dates or was it a in general- Dylan shall go visit x number of days at his father's home ?
Was this particular visit a long time coming, or spontaneous,? Would father have talked about it while out and about, like 'I am so glad my son is coming thanksgiving week'...
also , was it ever said if the judge took Dylan's personal thoughts in to consideration re visiting?


grr I keep thinking of Shawn Hornbeck fo some reason

 

[Confusion]

So who has miss informed him , LE?


He willl know a lot more than the people on here and his reactions are anger at MR . I do not think he is misinformed .

I think he may have been. MOO

 

[NC Analyzer]

When something traumatic/devastating happens in my family, I tend to be one who looks for answers/solutions. There's no way I'd go on television and cry, beg anybody for anything, tell a bunch of strangers things that I consider personal, or any of the other things that most people consider to be normal for a mother to do. I let the people oriented people in the family deal with the feelings part, and I'll deal with the thinking part. I believe we all have our own place in the equation. MOO

Over recent years, I have lost both of my parents, a step parent, both grandmothers, a cousin, 3 aunts, 3 uncles and several friends/acquaintances. Nobody ever saw me shed a tear, nor did they expect to. It has nothing to do with caring, and I don't believe that MR not speaking out or falling apart means that he doesn't care either. MOO again!

With all due respect, (and as you once said to me), you cannot compare what you would do with what MR would do, IMO, and fortunately, you have never had your child go missing. I would hope you would do whatever was necessary to bring public awareness to your missing child, but perhaps because he wasn't that involved, MR just didn't have quite the same connection to Dylan as ER.
Also, JMO, but the death of family members doesn't quite equate to having your child turn up missing. Apples to Oranges.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I, too find it to be very unfair that just as was posted up thread Cory is intentionally misleading AKA lying about MR.. and its not at all directed at you because this example is far from being the only one WRT MR.. its been addressed numerous times throughout the more than two dozen Dylan threads we have here.. its been addressed that ER has intentionally mislead AKA lied about numerous different issues regarding MR.. its been addressed several other times WRT other issues involving CR(completely separate from this latest issue) that he must be intentionally misleading AKA lying about MR.. even stated that the neighbor was intentionally misleading AKA lying about MR... the list unfortunately goes on and its exactly why IMO it certainly appears more often than not any of the issues or information that we have about MR, that the person(s) from which the info originated must be the one that's dishonest, intentionally misleading, or just outright lying on MR..

So, ITA that its unfair that it repeatedly is assumed that any of these negative issues involving MR must be lies, untruths, or false info given by those from whom the info originated.. and its exactly this that lead to my stating such, that this isn't a one time thing, but rather is seen throughout many of Dylan's threads.

Totally agree. IMO, everything that can be taken into consideration surrounding Dylan's disappearance has been thoroughly discussed. It's not as though anyone here wants MR to be responsible, but this is Websleuths and what we do is sort through the information to the best of our ability while attempting to utilize our critical analysis skills. When information leans toward a certain person, it isn't because everyone is attempting to deceive. It just is what it is.
Of course, JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

Wouldn't have to be a friend, just an acquaintance. And if he had something evil on his mind, he wouldn't leave Mark a note, he wouldn't want him knowing who took Dylan.
As for Dylan leaving a note... I don't know many 13 y.o.'s who would even think about it.

An unpopular theory, but still one I can’t get out of my head …

MR very well may have spoken extensively about his beautiful young son coming to visit for Thanksgiving week, and his appointment with his lawyer regarding custody of his beautiful young son, at his local watering hole. Solitary men can visit their local tavern to have a few beers and talk to the regulars, just to have someone to talk to occasionally.

Who is to say that the tavern locals do not include an unregistered (or registered) SO that no-one is aware of? How many of us know an SO and don’t know they are an SO?

Maybe this SO decided to stop by MR’s house because he was ‘just passing by’ (to look at his beautiful young son), and found/knew it was an opportune time to take the matter further.

MR may have several reasons for feeling guilt …. arguing with Dylan and breaking his phone, not allowing Dylan to use MRs phone/internet, insisting Dylan visit for Thanksgiving, telling everyone in town his young son was visiting, leaving Dylan alone for hours … and then Dylan is abducted.

MR may be a SOB, but he may be an innocent SOB.

 

[NC Analyzer]

An unpopular theory, but still one I can’t get out of my head …

MR very well may have spoken extensively about his beautiful young son coming to visit for Thanksgiving week, and his appointment with his lawyer regarding custody of his beautiful young son, at his local watering hole. Solitary men can visit their local tavern to have a few beers and talk to the regulars, just to have someone to talk to occasionally.

Who is to say that the tavern locals do not include an unregistered (or registered) SO that no-one is aware of? How many of us know a SO and don’t know they are a SO?

Maybe this SO decided to stop by MR’s house because he was ‘just passing by’ (to look at his beautiful young son), and found it was an opportune time to take the matter further.

MR may have several reasons for feeling guilt …. arguing with Dylan and breaking his phone, not allowing Dylan to use MRs phone/internet, insisting Dylan visit for Thanksgiving, telling everyone in town his young son was visiting, leaving Dylan alone for hours … and then Dylan is abducted.

MR may be a SOB, but he may be an innocent SOB.

So, what you're saying is MR lied to LE to cover for his embarrassment? And after all this time, he is leaving Dylan's mother to twist and die a little more every day because she doesn't have her son at home? Putting LE and volunteers in danger with searches; continuing to raise reward monies...
If this is the case and MR hasn't been forthcoming with LE about what happened, I can only hope they figure it out and charge him with whatever they think sticks. JMO, MOO!

 

[cluciano63]

My mistake.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20130105/NEWS01/130109758/Search-for-missing-Dylan-Redwine-goes-on---

This does not exactly single out the one we most want to know about, IMO. May not even include him.

 

[TxJan1971]

need a refresher- was this court ordered visit SPECIFIC to this visit on those dates or was it a in general- Dylan shall go visit x number of days at his father's home ?
Was this particular visit a long time coming, or spontaneous,? Would father have talked about it while out and about, like 'I am so glad my son is coming thanksgiving week'...
also , was it ever said if the judge took Dylan's personal thoughts in to consideration re visiting?


grr I keep thinking of Shawn Hornbeck fo some reason

As far as MSM, here is what I have:

Dylan Redwine disappeared on Nov. 19, one day after he arrived at his dad's Vallecito area home on a court-ordered visitation for Thanksgiving.


http://www.9news.com/news/article/303598/339/Missing-boys-family-had-violent-history


From Video @ same link:
Most of the recent child custody records sealed including statements made by Dylan made during a family court hearing in September. All of the documents also from a hearing in November – last one before Dylan’s disappearance are also sealed at this point.


As far as Sean Horbeck, here’s the latest LE MSM regarding RSO:

From 12-8-12:

Lt. Ed Phippen said all of the local registered sex offenders had been checked out and had alibis for the 48-hour period from when Dylan arrived at the airport to the time he was reported missing.

Phippen wanted to reassure residents that the Sheriff’s Office “does not believe there is a sex offender abducting children” from the area.

http://durangoherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121208/NEWS01/121209618/Volunteers-search-for-Dylan--&template=printpicart

 

[SouthAussie]

So, what you're saying is MR lied to LE to cover for his embarrassment? And after all this time, he is leaving Dylan's mother to twist and die a little more every day because she doesn't have her son at home? Putting LE and volunteers in danger with searches; continuing to raise reward monies...
If this is the case and MR hasn't been forthcoming with LE about what happened, I can only hope they figure it out and charge him with whatever they think sticks. JMO, MOO!

Yes, that's what I am saying .... he may be a SOB (even a lying SOB), but may be an innocent SOB.

And, we do not know what MR has told LE. As we've all agreed, LE are not talking much. LE may already know he is a SOB too.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Yes, that's what I am saying .... he may be a SOB (even a lying SOB), but may be an innocent SOB.

And, we do not know what MR has told LE. As we've all agreed, LE are not talking much. LE may already know he is a SOB too.

Just my opinion, and I'm not MR's biggest fan, but I sincerely doubt even he would go to this extreme. The only way it would even remotely make any sense is if he truly didn't care about his child being found. I can only hope that this father doesn't place his own comfort level above not only his child, but the entire family, the public and law enforcement. Pretty self serving if you ask me and not something I've ever seen...especially after all this time has passed.
JMO

ETA: IF he did pull off a stunt like this, it might not make him guilty of murder, but it sure would guarantee a long prison sentence for trying something so absurd. JMO

 

[Old_Hippie]

Well of course no one "has" to talk to the media! But one has to wonder why not? This is his son! He has expressed concerns about how this all "looks". What better way to clear things up and move on in order to put the focus on Dylan that he claims he wants? JMO

I know many have said they would do anything if this was their child, and I am in that same ballpark, but I would even go a step further. If I was ever suspected of a crime that I didn't commit, I would scream, yell, interview with MSM and give my story to any newspaper that wanted to publish it, professing my innocence! I would also have legal counsel, but NO ONE would be able to shut me up! I would tell my story to anyone that wanted to hear it and fill in the missing details that caused people to "look" at me in the first place.

That's exactly how I feel, too. And after doing that, I'd be calling the investigators at least twice a day, until they told me to leave them alone, too.

 

[cluciano63]

Yes, that's what I am saying .... he may be a SOB (even a lying SOB), but may be an innocent SOB.

And, we do not know what MR has told LE. As we've all agreed, LE are not talking much. LE may already know he is a SOB too.

He would lie to LE and risk Dylan never being found? i believe he would, but only if he is personally guilty of whatever has befallen Dylan, but not otherwise.

 

[SouthAussie]

Just my opinion, and I'm not MR's biggest fan, but I sincerely doubt even he would go to this extreme. The only way it would even remotely make any sense is if he truly didn't care about his child being found. I can only hope that this father doesn't place his own comfort level above not only his child, but the entire family, the public and law enforcement. Pretty self serving if you ask me and not something I've ever seen...especially after all this time has passed.
JMO

ETA: IF he did pull off a stunt like this, it might not make him guilty of murder, but it sure would guarantee a long prison sentence for trying something so absurd. JMO

Yes, well .... I just wanted to put it out there that LE may be quiet because they may be looking at another potential suspect and not just MR.

 

[asyousay]

Yes, well .... I just wanted to put it out there that LE may be quiet because they may be looking at another potential suspect and not just MR.

Or it could because they have no idea on what to do next .

 

[belimom]

Jumping in here again kinda late. Hope it's okay to ask about the fishing pole and a few other things:

1) how far is the dad's home from this lake/reservoir?
2) how soon after he was missing did the dad call LE?
3) did he offer any guesses as to where Dylan may have gone?

What I'm trying to get at is this: if I lived close to a lake/reservoir and came home to find my child - and "maybe" a fishing pole missing - then I would head over to that lake/reservoir, thinking, "Huh. S/he must've gone fishing."

Sorry for all the questions... TIA!

 

[NC Analyzer]

Or it could because they have no idea on what to do next .

I am so darn worried about that. In my own experience, I've only known LE to be this quiet when they are zeroing in and building their case, when they know nothing, or when they simply don't have enough evidence to satisfy the DA. Scary. This child needs to be found.
Everything is always my opinion...who else would be typing this, lol

 

[TxJan1971]

Jumping in here again kinda late. Hope it's okay to ask about the fishing pole and a few other things:

1) how far is the dad's home from this lake/reservoir?
2) how soon after he was missing did the dad call LE?
3) did he offer any guesses as to where Dylan may have gone?

What I'm trying to get at is this: if I lived close to a lake/reservoir and came home to find my child - and "maybe" a fishing pole missing - then I would head over to that lake/reservoir, thinking, "Huh. S/he must've gone fishing."

Sorry for all the questions... TIA!

1) I believe approximately 4 miles (anyone have anything different?)
2) I believe 6:00 p.m. (will check and update if incorrect)
3) Copied and pasted from a previous post

From the article below, it appears that MR may believe 1 of 2 things happened.

1) Something happened at the lake
2) Dylan was hitchhiking and a stranger picked him up (reporter's words) and Dylan is "not in the area" (MR's words)

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22063185

Reporter: Mark Redwine said Sunday that he hadn't been able to find the boy's fishing rod.

MR: "I question why it has taken this long to start scouring the lake because from Day One they have known it is likely he had a fishing pole with him," Redwine, 52, said.

Reporter: Information he received from the boy's friends suggests that Dylan was hitchhiking when he disappeared, Redwine said.

MR: "It sounds to me like he's not even in the area," he said.

Reporter: He said he is concerned that a stranger could have picked up the teen and abducted him.

 

[sreshowtime]

Thank you TxJan...interesting. .. and your thoughts too South Aussie- solitary....one that might not talk a lot, but keeps their ears open

As far as MR- devil's advocate here...is is possible he is just as clueless as many others are? and his mannerisms, etc. just don't translate well in to the type of behavior 'we' want to see from him?
Is is possible he knows something, but just doesn't know he knows it? Like the right question hasn't been asked yet, that could spur an 'aha' moment?

As an aside, Michael Devlin had no prior criminal record prior to kidnapping Shawn Hornbeck- could there be another loner-"A Big Friendly Marshmallow" - out there somewhere?? (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1578131,00.html)

yes I so want all of these children who have seemingly disappeared to be marvelously found