CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #25

[Seajay]

That's an awful lot of weight to put on the shoulders of such a young person who is already under an enormous amount of stress. I would think that her boyfriend/fiance would be a better source of strength under the circumstances. Maybe I just feel that way because my stepfather was the rock in my family throughout a lot, including my mother's 15 year battle with cancer and eventual death. MOO

Cary Stayner comes to mind. Missing brother gets all the attention, much is expected of him as only son left, feelings of jealousy and abandonment because his brother was the focus for so many years, and we know what happened with that.

 

[momrids6]

Repeating myself- because I have seen no discussion concerning this interview. I find the difference between the one below and the video of the other interesting- thoughts?


Family of Missing Teen Not Giving up Hope

"I’ve always believed someone has him,” Elaine said Wednesday night. “I am pleading to whoever has him or knows what happened, let us know."

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Family-of-Missing-Teen-Not-Giving-up-Hope-186259192.html

eta: fixed link

 

[DylansMom34]

Cary Stayner comes to mind. Missing brother gets all the attention, much is expected of him as only son left, feelings of jealousy and abandonment because his brother was the focus for so many years, and we know what happened with that.

So sad about Cary. I seem to recall that Cary was 10 or 11 when Steven went missing and I seem to recall reading that Cary had a long history of mental health problems. It seems Cory Redwine is a well adjusted young man with a job, a steady girlfriend, etc. I don't think he's anything at all like Cary Stayner.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Repeating myself- because I have seen no discussion concerning this interview. I find the difference between the one below and the video of the other interesting- thoughts?


Family of Missing Teen Not Giving up Hope

"I’ve always believed someone has him,” Elaine said Wednesday night. “I am pleading to whoever has him or knows what happened, let us know."

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/F...186259192.html

The request page cannot be found. It has either been moved or is no longer available.

 

[momrids6]

The request page cannot be found. It has either been moved or is no longer available.

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Family-of-Missing-Teen-Not-Giving-up-Hope-186259192.html

sorry- they updated:Updated: Thu 5:25 AM, Jan 10, 2013

 

[cluciano63]

iMO, some posters, myself included, have been open to scenarios that have nothing to do with MR until we remember the phone seemingly dropping off the face of the earth at eight the night before. So it is not MR, necessarily, but the phone, that stands in the way, for me, in believing his version right now.

 

[mmmagique]

IMO MOO JMO
I think Cory is Elaine's rock right now. Far from forgotten about and much needed by his mother

When I watched the video, I felt that he was his brother's knight in shining armor. He is going to be there to fight for his brother no matter what.

 

[rebeccaeee]

Repeating myself- because I have seen no discussion concerning this interview. I find the difference between the one below and the video of the other interesting- thoughts?


Family of Missing Teen Not Giving up Hope

"I’ve always believed someone has him,” Elaine said Wednesday night. “I am pleading to whoever has him or knows what happened, let us know."

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Family-of-Missing-Teen-Not-Giving-up-Hope-186259192.html

I figured this just shows different editorial choices with different networks. We don't have uncut footage of either one so who knows? This network focused on community with a shout out to the benefit dinner and the other network played up MR. ER's message- a plea for information- doesn't seem all that different to me.

 

[Seajay]

I can understand why now LE relies heavily on forensics and not on eye witnesses. Everyone sees things differently, even when they are seeing the same thing they are interrpreting it based on their own personal experience and not per se what is actually going on. IMO.

 

[Confusion]

iMO, some posters, myself included, have been open to scenarios that have nothing to do with MR until we remember the phone seemingly dropping off the face of the earth at eight the night before. So it is not MR, necessarily, but the phone, that stands in the way, for me, in believing his version right now.

Perhaps that's why we see things so differently. I have no problem understanding how the phone could have been quiet after 8 pm while Dylan was still alive and healthy. If that's all people base MR's guilt on, I'd guess that we'll never agree - unless Dylan and/or the phone is found and he or something on the phone says MR did something to him. MOO

 

[cluciano63]

Perhaps that's why we see things so differently. I have no problem understanding how the phone could have been quiet after 8 pm while Dylan was still alive and healthy. If that's all people base MR's guilt on, I'd guess that we'll never agree - unless Dylan and/or the phone is found and he or something on the phone says MR did something to him. MOO

That is not all suspicions are based upon, IMO.
MR seems to skip from arrival at the house/Nerf ball to the next morning. Nothing much has been said about the rest of the evening, except "he went to bed early" when in fact he seemed to have slept on the couch, if he was there at all. What did MR then do? Also the story of Dylan refusing to get up does not ring true for some, including me. I believe he was eager to see R and would have arisen. It also makes little sense, IMO, that Dylan was not allowed to go to R's on Sunday night, since MR was busy on Monday morning anyway. MR had to get up extra early to drive Dylan out there. And finally, I can see no reason why Dylan would not have waited until 11:30 for his father and do not believe that someone came to the house and coaxed him away. If Dylan was so groggy and inclined to laze about and not get up, I do not see him deciding on taking off on foot rather than wait maybe two hours or so for his ride.

Just a whole lot does not make sense to me, least of all MR's continued refusal to speak to his ex or his son. If he is not guilty, he is doing a great impression of a guilty person, IMO.

I would be, and will be, much relieved if we one day learn MR had nothing to do with whatever has happened to Dylan. I still will fail to understand his behavior during this crisis, though, which reads as failing his son, to me.

 

[katydid23]

The police are not silent. Sorry, but I have press releases and news articles and videos with them answering reporter inquiries.

So far as what they're doing, this is from the most recent press release from Saturday -

all LPCSO Investigators are
still assigned to the case as well as working other criminal cases. Investigators continue to make
follow up contacts by phone and in person.
As tips and other information become available, some are assigned to other Task Force members
which include investigators from Durango Police Department, Bayfield Marshal’s Office,
Colorado Bureau of Investigation, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

I don't have a link, because I got it from the Sheriff's office (Bender) by email. The press release was an attachment to the email, and is on Sheriff's office letterhead.

BBM

That sounds to me like it is becoming a cold case. If they are working on in while working other cases then it is no longer a top priority. JMO

 

[jjenny]

BBM

That sounds to me like it is becoming a cold case. If they are working on in while working other cases then it is no longer a top priority. JMO

I seriously think they have no evidence to go on. I believe they didn't find any forensic evidence by searching MR's house, and they don't have any evidence of an abduction either.

 

[cluciano63]

I seriously think they have no evidence to go on. I believe they didn't find any forensic evidence by searching MR's house, and they don't have any evidence of an abduction either.

I agree. If so, there is little they can do other than follow up on "tips" as they come in, and if they have a POI in mind, keep an eye on that person. I guess we can hope they are building a careful circumstantial case, if so, and that if Dylan is eventually found, they might be able to move forward.

 

[looks like rain]

It is just so sad to think this will never be solved.

 

[katydid23]

That is not all suspicions are based upon, IMO.
MR seems to skip from arrival at the house/Nerf ball to the next morning. Nothing much has been said about the rest of the evening, except "he went to bed early" when in fact he seemed to have slept on the couch, if he was there at all. What did MR then do? Also the story of Dylan refusing to get up does not ring true for some, including me. I believe he was eager to see R and would have arisen. It also makes little sense, IMO, that Dylan was not allowed to go to R's on Sunday night, since MR was busy on Monday morning anyway. MR had to get up extra early to drive Dylan out there. And finally, I can see no reason why Dylan would not have waited until 11:30 for his father and do not believe that someone came to the house and coaxed him away. If Dylan was so groggy and inclined to laze about and not get up, I do not see him deciding on taking off on foot rather than wait maybe two hours or so for his ride.

Just a whole lot does not make sense to me, least of all MR's continued refusal to speak to his ex or his son. If he is not guilty, he is doing a great impression of a guilty person, IMO.

I would be, and will be, much relieved if we one day learn MR had nothing to do with whatever has happened to Dylan. I still will fail to understand his behavior during this crisis, though, which reads as failing his son, to me.

I agree, and will add a couple of other suspicious things, imo.

I thought it was very odd that when he returned home at 11:30, to an empty house, he was not more concerned and proactive about his missing son. He
sat for FIVE HOURS and waited for a reply to his texts. And apparently he was texting from a place there was no service, according to some. So that makes me even more suspicious.

And I was very suspicious when I read his statement criticiizng LE for not looking at the lake more quickly. He said he told them on day one that D's fishing pole was missing. So did he go to the lake himself and search when he realized that? I am not sure what he did from 11:30 until 4, when he finally went and checked with the friends.

And it made ZERO sense to me that D was going fishing by himself in a remote lake, when he had his good friends, who he was anxious to see, waiting for him in town.

I am also very suspicious because of the past arrests for menacing/assault and child abuse. No matter what transpired, it is obvious to me that he had a very volatile temper and he lost control during those incidents.[ It does not matter to me that most of the charges were dropped---because it often happens that way, and it doesn't mean it never happened, imo. ]


ETA: Also, the original description of his last interactions with his son make me feel suspicious. It went from ' out like a light' to " I gently nudged him awake, explained that I had to leave, and he said he understood." :waitasec:

 

[kkdj]

It is just so sad to think this will never be solved.

It will be. I think there is a whole lot we are not privy to.
Imo

 

[cluciano63]

It will be. I think there is a whole lot we are not privy to.
Imo

If Dylan is not found?
I doubt there will be an arrest, if he is not located. Even then it could be difficult.

 

[Seajay]

It is just so sad to think this will never be solved.

The longer this goes on, the more I'm leaning that way as well. This case appears to be at a stand still. Posting in it has dropped off markedly. Not much new to discuss. No new leads that we know of. Dylan, where are you?

 

[Confusion]

The longer this goes on, the more I'm leaning that way as well. This case appears to be at a stand still. Posting in it has dropped off markedly. Not much new to discuss. No new leads that we know of. Dylan, where are you?

I'm still waiting (somewhat) patiently to get permission to go into more depth about things. It hardly seems worth it until then. MOO