CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #25

[PaulR]

The texts were ALL during the 8:01 minute because otherwise the phone would show the time change!
This is pretty simple!
When the texts were made at a different times, the phone shows the time!

Not necessarily.

Usually the way systems like this work is that they don't display the time unless there was significant delay in messages sent/received. That's because end users don't want a constant set of timestamps in their conversations.

I use systems like this every day (albeit these run on a regular computer, not a cell phone) and this is exactly how it works. Usually it's a five or ten minute delay.

The idea behind this is that a constant stream of messages is a "conversation", and a long delay between messages means that the old conversation has ended and a new conversation has begun. If you think about it, this is how real life works - if you go talk with a co-worker for five minutes, go back to your desk, and then start talking with them again a half hour later, those are two different conversations.

If someone asked you when you talked with your co-worker, you'd say "3pm and then 3:30pm" - you wouldn't say "3pm, 3:01pm, 3:02pm, 3:03pm, 3:04pm, 3:30pm, etc."

Same concept.

 

[nursebeeme]

:nurse:

 

[mmmagique]

Snip 1 was from Sunday night, snip 2 was from Monday morning.

Again, what's the discrepancy?

Mark said he tried to wake his son the next morning around 7:30 before leaving to run errands, but Dylan was fast asleep.

“Before I left I nudged him on the shoulder and he acknowledged that he understood that I needed to leave and if he needed anything he would just call me..”

 

[NC Analyzer]

Not necessarily.

Usually the way systems like this work is that they don't display the time unless there was significant delay in messages sent/received. That's because end users don't want a constant set of timestamps in their conversations.

I use systems like this every day (albeit these run on a regular computer, not a cell phone) and this is exactly how it works. Usually it's a five or ten minute delay.

Which is what I'm saying. The phone shows the first 8:01 text and then the subsequent texts (which were all made at the same time, 8:01) until the last text from R, which shows 9:27. No delays. No changes in time until R's call at 9:27. If there was delay between any of the 8:01 texts, the phone would have indicated the change in time.

 

[princessk]

The texts were ALL during the 8:01 minute because otherwise the phone would show the time change!
This is pretty simple!
Where the texts were made at a different times, the phone shows the time!

ETA: It's nothing to text 5-10 times during the same minute. I guess I really don't see how this can even be construed as questionable!

I just tested this theory on my iphone, and that is not true. Don't know what kind of phone he had, and maybe it is different than mine (probably). I am not typing a message the same time and it is not showing a time stamp on it. I am not a cell phone professional, but since it did not prove true on my phone, there is a chance that is not true on the friend's phone.

 

[PaulR]

Mark said he tried to wake his son the next morning around 7:30 before leaving to run errands, but Dylan was fast asleep.

“Before I left I nudged him on the shoulder and he acknowledged that he understood that I needed to leave and if he needed anything he would just call me..”

Which is a discrepancy from what exactly?

 

[nursebeeme]

There is a beautiful new website for Dylan. http://finddylan.com/

is this associated with the official facebook page?

 

[PaulR]

Which is what I'm saying. The phone shows the first 8:01 text and then the subsequent texts (which were all made at the same time, 8:01) until the last text from R, which shows 9:27. No delays. No changes in time until R's call at 9:27. If there was delay between any of the 8:01 texts, the phone would have indicated the change in time.

Actually, it's not. You are saying the exact opposite, that each message is shown as timestamped on the phone as soon as the minute changes. I'm saying that the phone doesn't display a timestamp until there has been a delay (defined by the cell phone.)

I have a cheap cell like Dylan's. Texting out a message of any length takes me ~20 seconds. This conversation probably ended at 8:03pm, or 8:04pm, or whatever. It doesn't make a lot of difference if it ended at 8:01pm or 8:03pm so I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.

 

[princessk]

Actually, it's not. You are saying the exact opposite, that each message is shown as timestamped on the phone as soon as the minute changes. I'm saying that the phone doesn't display a timestamp until there has been a delay (defined by the cell phone.)

I have a cheap cell like Dylan's. Texting out a message of any length takes me ~20 seconds. This conversation probably ended at 8:03pm, or 8:04pm, or whatever. It doesn't make a lot of difference if it ended at 8:01pm or 8:03pm so I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.

Agree.

 

[NC Analyzer]

<modsnip>
Sometimes, it just is what it is.

 

[mmmagique]

is this associated with the official facebook page?

I was on a relative of ER's fb page, and she had a link to it. That is all I know about it. (I haven't been on the FMDR fb page today) Oh, and it was just posted in the last 24 hours, so I'm assuming it's new. (the relative said it was new as well)

 

[mmmagique]

Which is a discrepancy from what exactly?

The quotes appear to be contradictions. If someone is fast asleep, how do you convey messages to them, and how do they let you know they understand?

 

[The Cheese]

is this associated with the official facebook page?

The admin on Dylan's facebook posted a few days ago that they are forming a non-profit foundation called Hope for Dylan Redwine, so it could be associated with that

http://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine/posts/577433362283271

 

[mmmagique]

Actually, it's not. You are saying the exact opposite, that each message is shown as timestamped on the phone as soon as the minute changes. I'm saying that the phone doesn't display a timestamp until there has been a delay (defined by the cell phone.)

I have a cheap cell like Dylan's. Texting out a message of any length takes me ~20 seconds. This conversation probably ended at 8:03pm, or 8:04pm, or whatever. It doesn't make a lot of difference if it ended at 8:01pm or 8:03pm so I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.

She IS agreeing with you. Someone else is speculating that Dylan was texting possibly up until that last text at...what was it? 9 something? That is what she is disagreeing with. You and NC are arguing the same exact thing.

 

[PaulR]

The quotes appear to be contradictions. If someone is fast asleep, how do you convey messages to them, and how do they let you know they understand?

Neither is a quote.

 

[NC Analyzer]

She IS agreeing with you. Someone else is speculating that Dylan was texting possibly up until that last text at...what was it? 9 something? That is what she is disagreeing with. You and NC are arguing the same exact thing.

Thank you.
Sometimes I have to just :banghead:

 

[Dee10]

Snip 1 was from Sunday night, snip 2 was from Monday morning.

Again, what's the discrepancy?

BBM - What do you mean?

Here is one quote:

Mark said he tried to wake his son the next morning around 7:30 before leaving to run errands, but Dylan was fast asleep. When he returned at 11:30 a.m., he said Dylan was gone, as was his backpack.

Which quote is from Sunday night?

 

[mmmagique]

Neither is a quote.

“Before I left I nudged him on the shoulder and he acknowledged that he understood that I needed to leave and if he needed anything he would just call me..”

That is NOT a quote?!!!

 

[PaulR]

&#8220;Before I left I nudged him on the shoulder and he acknowledged that he understood that I needed to leave and if he needed anything he would just call me..&#8221;

That is NOT a quote?!!!

<modsnip>

The article linked to in the Durango Herald was *not* a quote. The article that you are quoting wasn't mentioned at all.

 

[PaulR]

Any members chastising other members for putting forth alternative theories will be hit with hefty timeouts.

Just a reminder folks.