CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #25

[Allusonz]

It is a strange one as i can not imagine going to court and getting visitation rights and then saying " go off and be with your friends for the first potion of this trip" when Dylan was there about 6 days i assume .

Dylan had lived there for a number of years and had friends.

At least MR realized that his friends were important to him. Has ER ever mentioned bringing Dylan back specifically to see his friends?

I find nothing unusual about that.

 

[Allusonz]

Corey made sure he got that tidbit in!

So if CR stated it then it must be fact?

 

[Allusonz]

And a fishing pole!

How is that strange? The place is well known for its fishing.

 

[Allusonz]

Paul, Elaine mentioned it a while back on NG, Cory mentioned it the other night on another interview.

Which version am I to consider?

1. The one she passed that they only asked ER questions to see if she was a good candidate?

2. The one that MR failed.

3. The one that ER does not know if MR took one?

4. The one that ER thinks was inconclusive?

I am not trying to be snarky, but dang which version of her version am I to believe?

 

[Old_Hippie]

Where did you hear that MR refused to take a second poly?

http://www.krdo.com/news/Redwine-family-pleas-for-answers-in-son-s-disappearance/-/417220/18076238/-/npdmtsz/-/index.html

At 1:27 on this recent video, Cory says, "He won't take a polygraph." ER mentioned on NG quite a while ago that she and MR had both taken polygraphs before. She seemed to believe that MR's was "inconclusive" at that time and that he should take a second one. (This has not been confirmed by LE.)

Therefore, I am presuming that Cory's statement must be in reference to MR not going for a re-take. He is under no legal obligation to do so. It was reported that he had consulted a lawyer. It's very possible that the lawyer advised him not to do it. However, in the best interest of moving the investigation forward and taking the focus off of himself, as he has said he wants to do, it seems to me he would want to do it ASAP.

 

[Allusonz]

We didn't see the afternoon texts that started at noon that Sunday of them planning their get-together. They could have talked about Dylan staying overnight then.

When I listened to what MR said, it was unclear whether Dylan was planning or wanting to stay overnight on Monday.

I guess all we do is is make our best guess at it, or try out theories both ways.

edit - link for texting between Dylan and R starting at noon on Sunday -
http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687

We also must remember that the original plans had changed due to the plane having mechanical issues.

We don't know what the original plans were for sure, nor do we know what the revised plans were.

 

[PaulR]

Therefore, I am presuming that Cory's statement must be in reference to MR not going for a re-take.

LE says that the family continues to cooperate: http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2013/01/07/morgan-investigation-13-year-old-dylan-redwine-search-20k-reward/

I take LEs word over CRs belief.

 

[NC Analyzer]

We also must remember that the original plans had changed due to the plane having mechanical issues.

We don't know what the original plans were for sure, nor do we know what the revised plans were.

According to MR, there really wasn't any concrete plans to do anything specifically. Everything seemed to be rather vague in that respect.

 

[Old_Hippie]

So if CR stated it then it must be fact?

LE has not and will not confirm of deny this or anything else, but some paper in that area reported that MR spent a day being interviewed by the FBI and CBI around the time of the official search of his house. I don't have the link to that article available. I believe he took it back then, because he has said in the full length interview that he's working with investigators. He has been claiming that all along.

For anyone who missed that:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFNFsfXelY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFNFsfXelY[/ame]

 

[Confusion]

Corey made sure he got that tidbit in!

He didn't say anything about a second polygraph, he sounded like he was just repeating what his mother had said in the past.

http://www.krdo.com/news/Redwine-family-pleas-for-answers-in-son-s-disappearance/-/417220/18076238/-/npdmtsz/-/index.html

At 1:27 on this recent video, Cory says, "He won't take a polygraph." ER mentioned on NG quite a while ago that she and MR had both taken polygraphs before. She seemed to believe that MR's was "inconclusive" at that time and that he should take a second one. (This has not been confirmed by LE.)

Therefore, I am presuming that Cory's statement must be in reference to MR not going for a re-take. He is under no legal obligation to do so. It was reported that he had consulted a lawyer. It's very possible that the lawyer advised him not to do it. However, in the best interest of moving the investigation forward and taking the focus off of himself, as he has said he wants to do, it seems to me he would want to do it ASAP.

I prefer to believe LE when it was said that both parents have taken polygraphs and they will not discuss the results of them (which I am presuming means they didn't tell ER or CR). I also believe them when they said that MR is cooperating and not considered a suspect, and that "the family" continues to cooperate. There are many versions of "the truth" out there, and we all tend to believe the one that works best in our own minds. MOO

 

[Allusonz]

According to MR, there really wasn't any concrete plans to do anything specifically. Everything seemed to be rather vague in that respect.

No matter how I look at it plans had to of changed.

Whether that involved plans with MR or Dylan's friends.

MR specifically came back from his job to pick Dylan up on the 17th. Dylan did not arrive on the date he was to of originally. I am not understanding how a change in dates could not be considered a change on this occasion, when MR has been taken to task for having changed dates on other occasions.

Simply makes not one lick of sense to me.

 

[NC Analyzer]

LE says that the family continues to cooperate: http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2013/01/07/morgan-investigation-13-year-old-dylan-redwine-search-20k-reward/

I take LEs word over CRs belief.

"the family" doesn't necessarily include MR. It may, but it may not.
It is also JMO, but LE isn't going to state whether or not MR is being cooperative based on a request for a second poly. If he took the first one, that would be considered cooperative but requesting a second poly and having someone refuse doesn't mean they are going to turn around and claim someone is being uncooperative. Especially in the public arena when they really haven't said much to begin with. Of course this is all JMO.

 

[Allusonz]

LE has not and will not confirm of deny this or anything else, but some paper in that area reported that MR spent a day being interviewed by the FBI and CBI around the time of the official search of his house. I don't have the link to that article available. I believe he took it back then, because he has said in the full length interview that he's working with investigators. He has been claiming that all along.

For anyone who missed that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFNFsfXelY

So this must mean that ER did not take a polygraph since she stated that she only passed questions to see if she was a good candidate?

I am not following this logic.

 

[cluciano63]

LE says that the family continues to cooperate: http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2013/01/07/morgan-investigation-13-year-old-dylan-redwine-search-20k-reward/

I take LEs word over CRs belief.

It does not say "all" family members, nor does it say MR, so really, it says very little. JMO

 

[SmoothOperator]

FruitTingles,

I just wanted to extend my best wishes for your induction today.. I was in a quite similar situation of being a young 21yoa and was induced exactly 15 years ago this week with my now 15 yr old son!

Its scary in the moments leading up to it and the apprehension is likely the worst part of it all. Lets hope lil' Miss EDD is in a cooperative mood in finally making her much anticipated debut into the world either way in just a few short hours you'll have your beautiful daughter in your arms for the very first time.. Soak it all in and enjoy every second of it because I can attest My God how very fast time does fly from this moment on..to in what seems is the blink of an eye they're little pre-adults(ie. teenagers).

Good luck to you today, FruitTingles and I'm so happy for you that this day has FINALLY arrived:hug:

:heartbeat:
Jess

 

[NC Analyzer]

No matter how I look at it plans had to of changed.

Whether that involved plans with MR or Dylan's friends.

MR specifically came back from his job to pick Dylan up on the 17th. Dylan did not arrive on the date he was to of originally. I am not understanding how a change in dates could not be considered a change on this occasion, when MR has been taken to task for having changed dates on other occasions.

Simply makes not one lick of sense to me.

Well, of course "plans" would change due to the flight delay, but what I was referring to was the non-specific plans for the entire week. What they were going to be doing, where they were going, what the Thanksgiving plans were, so on and so on. MR said himself that they had some vague plans to go bowling and maybe travel to his brother's house, but nothing was specific. He said so himself. JMO, MOO

 

[Old_Hippie]

LE says that the family continues to cooperate: http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2013/01/07/morgan-investigation-13-year-old-dylan-redwine-search-20k-reward/

I take LEs word over CRs belief.

Fair enough. LE is keeping this case very close to the vest. Other than that general statement as it relates to "the family," they've said nothing specific. This leads those of us who are seeking any crumbs of clues as to what's going on to keep an ear to the ground and seize on anything to go on.

The information used to write the article linked is a little out of date, as the reward was increased to $30,450 a few days ago. A private donor from Denver gave $10,000; other donations added $450.

 

[Allusonz]

"the family" doesn't necessarily include MR. It may, but it may not.
It is also JMO, but LE isn't going to state whether or not MR is being cooperative based on a request for a second poly. If he took the first one, that would be considered cooperative but requesting a second poly and having someone refuse doesn't mean they are going to turn around and claim someone is being uncooperative. Especially in the public arena when they really haven't said much to begin with. Of course this is all JMO.

There is as well the possibility that the task force members chose to do an in depth interview with MR in order to clarify items identified on the polygraph instead of doing a second one since he agreed to it.

This was done without a lawyer as well.

 

[NC Analyzer]

So this must mean that ER did not take a polygraph since she stated that she only passed questions to see if she was a good candidate?

I am not following this logic.

LE confirmed that both ER and MR took a poly. I don't have the link at the moment, but I'm sure someone here does lease:

 

[Allusonz]

LE confirmed that both ER and MR took a poly. I don't have the link at the moment, but I'm sure someone here does lease:

I know LE stated that they both had taken a polygraph.

That was not my issue.

According to ER she was only asked questions pertaining to whether she was a good candidate or not as per NG.

Who should I believe?

LE or ER?