CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #26

[scorekeeper]

Facebook group pushes search for missing boy

http://www.gazette.com/articles/missing-149671-boy-father.html

Not sure if this has been posted; good read about missing persons/social media

sorry if already posted....

 

[kkdj]

Bob Harrod Case: Disappeared episode to air on Investigation Discovery on Monday, Feburary 18th 9PM ET/PT.
This man is from my neck of the woods! Please remember to watch if you can. Thanks

 

[Cardinal47]

Did anybody happen to watch Dr Phil today?

They had a couple of girls on telling how they survived an abduction.

I never heard of them but with everything going on with Dylan I thought it might be interesting.

 

[kkdj]

To add to the above, with the advances of science, the standard for jurors has become greater, even if not legally so. People tend to want to "know" for sure, i.e. DNA in particular. But we still see purely circumstantial cases result in convictions, such as Scott Peterson. A lot, IMO, depends on the skills of the state in presenting the case.

I think many people suspect MR was involved with dylans disappearance, but what could he be charged with that would stick at this
point, even circumstantially? To our knowledge here there is no evidence of a crime being committed by MR. We just have a missing child and no concrete evidence of why.
I will add that I question MR stories and behaviors. I feel he knows what happened to Dylan. And I feel this beyond a reasonable doubt. Enough evidence, even circumstantial, for a jury to convict him of something? I don't think so. Not at this point.
Jmo

 

[kkdj]

Did anybody happen to watch Dr Phil today?

They had a couple of girls on telling how they survived an abduction.

I never heard of them but with everything going on with Dylan I thought it might be interesting.

Really? I recorded it so I'll watch it when the hubby knocks out.
He can't watch any of those shows!

 

[Seajay]

Bob Harrod Case: Disappeared episode to air on Investigation Discovery on Monday, Feburary 18th 9PM ET/PT.
This man is from my neck of the woods! Please remember to watch if you can. Thanks

Mine, too. I've been waiting for this episode since October/November when I first heard it was going to be featured. He disappeared in 2009, at the age of 81, after being reunited and married to his first love. I hope this generates some leads so he can come home.

 

[Seajay]

So, I take it no one heard from Fruit Tingles yet? I wonder how birthing the baby went. Hopefully it's over by now and she has her darling bundle of joy now.

 

[SCHMAE]

OT, I was wondering about fruit tingles too. She said when baby comes, Dylan will be found............soooo... maybe that baby's sitting tight for a little bit longer !

 

[DylansMom34]

http://www.gazette.com/articles/missing-149671-boy-father.html

Latest Gazette article, talks about the FMDR facebook page.

 

[SailorMoon]

Where are you Dylan?? LE - please search lake again. Mark - please fill in details about Sunday night. Le - please let us see WM video and pics. Something isn't right about Sunday night.

 

[LWoods]

As time ticks on, I'm hoping that my thoughts are incorrect, but I'm beginning to believe Dylan will be found when the snow thaws. I really hope I'm wrong.

 

[MamaJoJo]

As time ticks on, I'm hoping that my thoughts are incorrect, but I'm beginning to believe Dylan will be found when the snow thaws. I really hope I'm wrong.

That statement makes my heart heavy. I pray to God it doesn't come to fruition.

 

[scorekeeper]

Where are you Dylan?? LE - please search lake again. Mark - please fill in details about Sunday night. Le - please let us see WM video and pics. Something isn't right about Sunday night.

As time ticks on, I'm hoping that my thoughts are incorrect, but I'm beginning to believe Dylan will be found when the snow thaws. I really hope I'm wrong.

BBM

Sunday night -
the last picture of Dylan in a public place
Communication from Dylan stops

Did Dylan even make it to his dad's house?

Why didn't the tracking dogs pick up Dylan's scent at or around his dad's house?

snow thaws - if Dylan is no longer living, praying that he will be found and brought home with the spring weather

Mark could answer a lot of questions, but he doesn't seem to want too....

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[ThePhantom]

Well, they convicted Ingmar Guandique of murdering Chandra Levy, mainly based upon his "look like a duck" reputation and the sketchy testimony by a jailed gang member. There is a group of us who never thought Guandique killed Chandra, in spite of the fact that he might have looked/acted/seemed like someone who would. Now "new" evidence is suddenly turning up that questions the character of the witness upon whose testimony Guandique was convicted.

Just ratcheting up the dialogue that sometimes there are other possibilities. Maybe when the snow falls, we'll find out something horrific happened to Dylan (though the fact that he can't be found is bad enough). In the meantime, I'm still pondering the other "what ifs." As many have astutely pointed out, that's why we're here.

Could it really be true that LE doesn't have *any* evidence that MR was involved in Dylan's disappearance. As many have said, I don't think they'd share it if they did. At the same time they're not telling people to be on the look out for a possible child predator. Who does that leave? Only people known to Dylan? So it would seem. Why would anyone willfully hide Dylan if not for nefarious purposes? What would foment that kind of hostility? Who is angry and might have an ax to grind?

Even though Dylan's case might be losing its appeal to the media (how sad), it doesn't have to happen here. Can't let this young man down; no matter who was involved or what happened, at least we can keep generating interest in him here. Trying to keep my mind focused on all the possibilies. I'm trying not to be myopic, especially since after two months LE is still at least acting like they aren't sure what to do next.

 

[azgrandma]

I've been doing a lot of thinking and there are some very good and valid scenarios that have been put out there by many that are thinking outside the box.
The only thing that gets me hung up is the phone, I can't get past that no matter how hard I try.
I've thought about some of the other scenarios, that someone perhaps was trying to do what they perceived as a good deed and it went wrong, got out of hand and they are stuck in a situation that they don't know how to get out of. (this BTW is perhaps my most hopeful because that would mean that DR is alive & well)
From that scenario, with no phone calls from DR's phone, we don't know if the home phone was ever used and I would think that with today's technology that LE would know one way or the other.
So IF someone was trying to help DR in some twisted way, the next block I come to is that everyone's plans were changed because of the mechanical troubles on the plane Saturday night. How would anyone know that DR was home alone Monday morning if DR didn't use his phone after 8 pm?
We know he texted his buddy, but we don't know of any other texting or calling that went on before 8 am.

FRUSTRATION!

 

[Salem]

I think it is interesting that LE said a week or two ago that they had some evidence back from forensic testing - and then we have not heard a thing. It seems if the evidence led them anywhere, there would be some chatter about following up on it.

Also - since that comment was reported, ER has basically retracted her statement about MR.

CR seems to be frustrated that MR has not taken a new poly, but the truth is, we don't know that MR has not done such. LE sure is not coming out and saying that MR is no longer cooperating. I think if MR was refusing to cooperate or if the evidence was pointing in his direction, we would be hearing something, even if it was only rumors.

As far as I know - we aren't even hearing rumors? (NOT that we can discuss them here )

So, my question is, what direction is the investigation heading in? Is it, indeed, heading away from MR? It sure looks like it, to me. I don't know, but I would think if the evidence was pointing at MR, at this point, they would have picked him up and held him for a day or two?

UGH!

Salem

 

[PaulR]

The only thing that gets me hung up is the phone, I can't get past that no matter how hard I try.

The thing to keep in mind is that we only know that Dylan did not use the phone after 8pm. We do not know if the phone was on or not after that point, or what time/location the phone was last communicating with a cell tower.

 

[TxLady2]

LE is not going to issue warnings about a child predator until they have some solid proof that there is one. Have there been any other kids or young teens go missing around that area? Any attempted abductions? If not, then there is no need to warn the public about something that they are not even sure happened. They would prefer that people just use common sense and do whatever it takes to protect their children. No need to cause a panic, since it's just one child missing. I don't mean that to sound crass, but one case does not make it a serial kidnapping.

 

[azgrandma]

The thing to keep in mind is that we only know that Dylan did not use the phone after 8pm. We do not know if the phone was on or not after that point, or what time/location the phone was last communicating with a cell tower.

That's what is so frustrating! Symantecs can be a huge game changer in how everyone views what has or has not been given.

My reference to "you" "we" is not directed towards anyone, just a people in general, I hope that is appropriate.

When someone says that there was no activity after 8 pm, do we take that literal and understand that the phone was dead, no pings, no battery, not turned on, broken. Or do we take it as no phone calls / texting to anyone.
When MR states that DR wouldn't wake up, but then later DR responded that he understood MR would be back later. Do you take that as a change in statement or clarification of the statement?

 

[TxLady2]

I think it is interesting that LE said a week or two ago that they had some evidence back from forensic testing - and then we have not heard a thing. It seems if the evidence led them anywhere, there would be some chatter about following up on it.

Also - since that comment was reported, ER has basically retracted her statement about MR.

CR seems to be frustrated that MR has not taken a new poly, but the truth is, we don't know that MR has not done such. LE sure is not coming out and saying that MR is no longer cooperating. I think if MR was refusing to cooperate or if the evidence was pointing in his direction, we would be hearing something, even if it was only rumors.

As far as I know - we aren't even hearing rumors? (NOT that we can discuss them here )

So, my question is, what direction is the investigation heading in? Is it, indeed, heading away from MR? It sure looks like it, to me. I don't know, but I would think if the evidence was pointing at MR, at this point, they would have picked him up and held him for a day or two?

UGH!

Salem

About the polygraphs. We really don't know what happened with them, since LE said they will not comment on the results. How would ER know whether Mark's poly was inconclusive or he failed or he passed? Since they are divorced, I don't think LE would tell her one way or the other, even if she asked, simply because they are not obligated to. Or they might tell her he passed or failed, just to gauge her reaction.

It's not uncommon for these polygraphs to be inconclusive, though. Not too many distraught parents can manage to pass one with flying colors the first time, whether they're guilty or innocent. The shock of the situation alone affects the results.