CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #26

[scorekeeper]

was there enough time from the time Dylan landed to when he was reported missing to take Dylan out of the country?

could this be something that was done for spite?

in all of Mark's travels for work, I'm sure he has met a lot of different people...

just typing out loud...

 

[Eileen730]

MR does not have to talk to anyone your so right.

One question.

Why NOT talk to anyone?

what does that help?

 

[cluciano63]

Perhaps LE is directing ER in what to say. It is not an impossibility, Imo.

Also, that quote about "family members are still cooperating" may or may not include MR. It may mean what it says, that family members continue to cooperate, but does not specify ALl family members, as it easily could have done.

As far as ER showing her frustrations and perhaps, her true feelings about MR, again Desiree Young comes to mind. A lot of people felt she was wrong in accusing Terri Horman publicly, as far as helping the case, but understood her need to speak her frustrations aloud. She had background knowledge that we did not have that caused her to believe that TH harmed her child. For a long time, she felt that Kyron was being "held", as that is as far as her brain would let her go. Eventually, she seemed to come around to the concept that he was probably not alive, but it took a very long time. I think Elaine is going through much the same thing that Desiree is and has been enduring for more than 2.5years.

MR not communicating with, at least, CR is total BS, IMO. In this way, he shows his true self to me. I do not believe he cared much about Dylan until ER decided to take the new job and move away. If so, ER would know this better than anyone. I think she has been very restrained, actually.

Everything about LE's manner in this case points to their suspecting MR, as far as I am concerned. If so, I hope they are able to eventually charge him.

 

[mmmagique]

What's referenced above is from Nov 19th, and not a direct quote.

Here's a more recent direct quote from police on Nov 29th -

"We've been doing a potential criminal investigation, looking at abduction, kidnapping or foul play. We haven't closed out the possibility he has run away and we're still going door to door. We have an absence of clues. It's a mystery, that's what makes it so frustrating," he said.
November 29th Dan Bender

Link and more info I previously gathered about what the police have said vs what reporters have said regarding running away -

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #23

Here's one from November 28th, that says they have ruled out the possibility of Dylan running away due to the length of time he's been gone.

http://www.krdo.com/news/Investigat...away/-/417220/17581046/-/xik41jz/-/index.html

Here's another one from the 28th in which Dan Bender says he doesn't believe Dylan ran away. “There’s a combination of factors,” Bender said. “There’s been the passage of time without any sightings; Dylan was not a visitor but had friends here; he has a history of staying in contact with his family and friends; and there’s been nothing on his cellphone record since he was reported missing.”

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...rss/Dylan-Redwine-did-not-run-away-police-say

This is why everyone here is confused and arguing with each other (imo) the LE say one thing one day, and something opposite the next.

So...on the 28th, Bender says they've ruled out runaway. On the 29th, nothings been ruled out, including kidnapping? :banghead:

 

[PaulR]

Everything about LE's manner in this case points to their suspecting MR, as far as I am concerned.

Exactly what about LE leads you to think that they are suspecting MR?

 

[Eileen730]

Here's a question. What is more likely for ER to say to MR if they had a conversation:
1. Can you give me some information that will help find Dylan?
2. You either killed him yourself or you f'ed up and let him be taken!

From the media interviews she's given so far, I'd say (2), and if I was MR, I'd think it would not be constructive and I wouldn't subject myself to her rage.

If this were my ex hubby and my kid vanished and there is past domestic history id be parked on his door step.

Id be the first thing he saw every morning and the last thing he saw every night. till he decided to have a sit down with me.

she is putting this info out there for a reason.
If she didnt no one would know what her fears really are.

All JMO

 

[princessk]

The only people MR needs to go over a minute-by-minute timeline with is law enforcement, who have stated that the family is cooperating.

MR certainly does not need to give us a minute-by-minute account especially if the investigation is still ongoing. LE frequently holds back information, sometimes significant information, to be able to find the perp ("how could you have known X, nobody ever told you that?") There may be something in the timeline that is significant and we just don't know right now.

You are correct. He doesn't need to.....but it sure says something about his character involving his family. JMO

 

[mmmagique]

Here's a question. What is more likely for ER to say to MR if they had a conversation:
1. Can you give me some information that will help find Dylan?
2. You either killed him yourself or you f'ed up and let him be taken!

From the media interviews she's given so far, I'd say (2), and if I was MR, I'd think it would not be constructive and I wouldn't subject myself to her rage.

Whatever else ER may or may not be, she does not appear to be stupid, and she wants to know what happened, so I'm gonna go with what's behind door number one, Bob.

 

[PaulR]

was there enough time from the time Dylan landed to when he was reported missing to take Dylan out of the country?

By plane? Someone could have taken him almost anywhere in the world by then.

By car, either Mexico or Canada (though the latter would take ~16 hours.)

 

[cluciano63]

Exactly what about LE leads you to think that they are suspecting MR?

He has not been ruled out and very little is being done by LE to make Dylan's disappearance an issue to the community and beyond. They appear to be working behind the scenes. They are not asking for the community to reconstruct that day, or week, in their minds and try to recall anyone new to town, any visitors, or a local behaving oddly or missing from their usual occupation.

All just my opinion, of course.

 

[asyousay]

If Mark is totally refusing to speak to her then i get her turning to the media as it just makes it look like he has something to hide IMO .


I think she was married to the man and knows him and can read him if he is lying and so forth. So the fact he will not have a face to face meeting is just buying into her fears he hurt there son.


MOO

 

[jennapuppy]

If this were my ex hubby and my kid vanished and there is past domestic history id be parked on his door step.

Id be the first thing he saw every morning and the last thing he saw every night. till he decided to have a sit down with me.

she is putting this info out there for a reason.
If she didnt no one would know what her fears really are.

All JMO

You make a very good point here, Eileen. Have ER and CR gone to his home to talk to him and been turned away? Or are they only referring to phone calls and texts that haven't been answered?

 

[azgrandma]

Here's a question. What is more likely for ER to say to MR if they had a conversation:
1. Can you give me some information that will help find Dylan?
2. You either killed him yourself or you f'ed up and let him be taken!

From the media interviews she's given so far, I'd say (2), and if I was MR, I'd think it would not be constructive and I wouldn't subject myself to her rage.

IMO there comes a time when as divorced parents you (and I mean people in general not anyone specifically) must put your differences aside for the sake of your children. It's called being a parent and putting the needs/well being/love of your child at the forefront and putting your needs/well being/distain for your ex on the burner.
Those times IMOO are:

Graduation
School events / plays / conferences / reward ceremonies
Birthdays
Holidays
Sports or any other extra curricular activity your child is involved in
Weddings
Births of your grandchildren
Hospital visits
Emergencies
Death of your child
Missing child

You subject yourself to the ill feelings, the dirty looks, the comments because YOU as a parent need to be the adult and act like one. It's not about YOU, it's about YOUR child.

All is IMO and "you" is public in general not anyone specific

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

AZGrandma you are so right! I had 'issues' with my husband's ex but I had to suck it up and be around her for such events as you pointed out. I didn't do if for anyone but my stepdaughter.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I highly doubt that LE has told Elaine anything about their discussions with MR. That is part of the ongoing investigation and rarely do they share this info. Not even with the parent.

(I'm stating this because someone upstream said if Elaine wanted answers to those questions she could simply ask LE. That's not usually how it works)

 

[PaulR]

He has not been ruled out and very little is being done by LE to make Dylan's disappearance an issue to the community and beyond. They appear to be working behind the scenes. They are not asking for the community to reconstruct that day, or week, in their minds and try to recall anyone new to town, any visitors, or a local behaving oddly or missing from their usual occupation.

All just my opinion, of course.

Understood. Some responses:
1) He hasn't been named a suspect or POI.
2) They ARE asking the community for information, that's why they have the tip line.

 

[PaulR]

You subject yourself to the ill feelings, the dirty looks, the comments because YOU as a parent need to be the adult and act like one. It's not about YOU, it's about YOUR child.

As MR said, the focus shouldn't be on him but on finding Dylan.

 

[cluciano63]

Understood. Some responses:
1) He hasn't been named a suspect or POI.
2) They ARE asking the community for information, that's why they have the tip line.

Why name him as anything, if they are simply investigating and know where he can be found?

As far as the tip line, well, I should hope so, since Dylan has not been found.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Regardless of anything, what the public see's is this woman (Elaine) trying to find her son and this man (MR) apparently doing nothing.

 

[asyousay]

As MR said, the focus shouldn't be on him but on finding Dylan.

Yet by refusing to speak to his son and ex wife , the focus is on him . And if it indeed about Dylan then why is he not doing anything to help , why is this all on Elaine to get Dylan in the media ?!

If Elaine was doing what MR was doing then this case would be even colder than what it now is !

Elaine is a grieving mum yet she can not sit at home refusing to help her unlike somebody else .


IMO