CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #26

[Salem]

Well he's certainly co-operating with LE....if he wasn't, I think it would be a whole different story.

January 05, 2013

The Sheriff’s Office also said that family members continue to cooperate with investigators

http://durangoherald.com/article/20.../rss/Search-for-missing-Dylan-Redwine-goes-on

Thanks Marly! This article also says that some "evidence" has been processed but LE is not giving out any info.

So this answers a question that I had - is MR still cooperating now that evidence has been returned? Apparently, the answer is yes.

To me - this takes a little of the heat off MR and I wonder if this had anything to do with ER's retraction, which she apparently has gotten over, because she is now back to her original position.

More info from LE would be most welcome here. I'm thinking they have nothing. That somehow Dylan has disappeared, without a trace, and LE has looked everywhere they could think of, and now they are stuck

A lot like the Elizabeth and Lyric -- there one minute, gone the next.

I sure hope that is not the case.

Salem

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

'The Family' continues to cooperate is a very broad statement. When was the last time MR talked to LE? And what is MR doing to help find his son?

 

[Salem]

Yet by refusing to speak to his son and ex wife , the focus is on him . And if it indeed about Dylan then why is he not doing anything to help , why is this all on Elaine to get Dylan in the media ?!

If Elaine was doing what MR was doing then this case would be even colder than what it now is !

Elaine is a grieving mum yet she can not sit at home refusing to help her unlike somebody else .


IMO

Who is putting the focus on MR? Also, you don't know that he is not doing anything to help. I'm not defending him, per se, but we don't know that he is not doing anything. The most important thing he can do is cooperate with LE, help them anyway he can. Public feuds with his ex do not help Dylan - personally, I think such feuds harm Dylan's case.

MR knows he is the #1 suspect. But if he is innocent, given the accusations in the media, imo, the best thing he can do is lay low and let LE do their job. If he is guilty, the best thing he can do is lay low and let LE do their job. IMO, he is doing the best that he can right now.

Where, in MSM or from LE, does it say that he is doing "nothing" to help bring his son home? A link would be appreciated.

Salem

PS - I fall back on several cases that had a POI from the start, only to have the perp be someone totally different. We need to look at this with an open mind and open eyes.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Why name him as anything, if they are simply investigating and know where he can be found?

As far as the tip line, well, I should hope so, since Dylan has not been found.

So agree. Having a tip line isn't even remotely close to the same thing as asking the public for assistance. And most of us know LE rarely names a POI these days. It means nothing. JMO

 

[NC Analyzer]

Who is putting the focus on MR? Also, you don't know that he is not doing anything to help. I'm not defending him, per se, but we don't know that he is not doing anything. The most important thing he can do is cooperate with LE, help them anyway he can. Public feuds with his ex do not help Dylan - personally, I think such feuds harm Dylan's case.

MR knows he is the #1 suspect. But if he is innocent, given the accusations in the media, imo, the best thing he can do is lay low and let LE do their job. If he is guilty, the best thing he can do is lay low and let LE do their job. IMO, he is doing the best that he can right now.

Where, in MSM or from LE, does it say that he is doing "nothing" to help bring his son home? A link would be appreciated.

Salem

PS - I fall back on several cases that had a POI from the start, only to have the perp be someone totally different. We need to look at this with an open mind and open eyes.

BBM: Would you be so kind as to provide us with a few cases that had a close/similar set of circumstances to Dylan's disappearance?

 

[cluciano63]

'The Family' continues to cooperate is a very broad statement. When was the last time MR talked to LE? And what is MR doing to help find his son?

I agree. It would have very easy for LE to include the word "all" in this statement, and yet they did not.

 

[Salem]

'The Family' continues to cooperate is a very broad statement. When was the last time MR talked to LE? And what is MR doing to help find his son?

Good questions and obviously I have no answers. I wish I did. I hope it was the last time LE asked him to talk.

We may not know what he is doing, but we also don't know that he is doing "nothing." The accusations that he is NOT helping at all come from someone with the highest stake in the outcome of this case. I am not blaming her, I realize she is more than upset (I can't even imagine), but skews her perception, in my mind and I can't take it as the final answer. I can file it away and even give her statements some credit, because she knows MR, she knows her son, but I can't accept it as the final word. For me, it is something to think about. I also hope and pray that LE is thinking about it.

Salem

 

[belimom]

BBM: Would you be so kind as to provide us with a few cases that had a close/similar set of circumstances to Dylan's disappearance?

I'm not Salem, obviously, but the first case that comes to my mind: Polly Klaas. Her father, Marc, was a POI at the very beginning b/c of the divorce, b/c who else would be able to get into a home undetected and then take a girl during a slumber party, etc.

Again, I'm on the fence about MR but leaning slightly over to one side.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Who is putting the focus on MR? Also, you don't know that he is not doing anything to help. I'm not defending him, per se, but we don't know that he is not doing anything. The most important thing he can do is cooperate with LE, help them anyway he can. Public feuds with his ex do not help Dylan - personally, I think such feuds harm Dylan's case.

MR knows he is the #1 suspect. But if he is innocent, given the accusations in the media, imo, the best thing he can do is lay low and let LE do their job. If he is guilty, the best thing he can do is lay low and let LE do their job. IMO, he is doing the best that he can right now.

Where, in MSM or from LE, does it say that he is doing "nothing" to help bring his son home? A link would be appreciated.

Salem

PS - I fall back on several cases that had a POI from the start, only to have the perp be someone totally different. We need to look at this with an open mind and open eyes.

BBM: I also think it's unfair to categorize the posters who are leaning toward MR responsibility as not looking at this with "an open mind and open eyes".
I can't speak for others, but I have plenty of reasons to be looking closely at MR and it appears that many others do as well. Just because you and others don't agree with our perspective, please do not assume that we haven't looked at this case carefully. JMO

ETA: Although I understand the hesitancy of this site to allow anyone to outright call MR guilty due to litigious issues, it puzzles me when I see the hostility directed at ER and CR on this thread. Directing us to keep an open mind is one thing, but I don't see how it is in any way productive to point ANY fingers at a momma who's child is missing. Her pain is real.

 

[asyousay]

Salem - it becomes about Mark in the media because he won't speak to the family . So it's a natural question to ask Elaine on what's going on there and of course it is about " how he won't speak to them and is seemingly not doing anything to help"

Elaine put together a fund raiser in Colorado Springs and yet Mark has not done anything like that with the community where he lives !

Elaine is ringing around for tv spots and radio and speaking out to bring awareness to Dylan's plight and yet again we have not heard mark is doing of this .


MOO , IMHO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I would like to know exactly what MR is doing to help? If he's doing anything the public sure isn't seeing it. And I would really like to know when the last time he spoke to LE is?

Of course he could be doing things, but since he's decided to 'lay low' the public see's him doing nothing. If he's guilty, then yes this is probably best for him. But if he's innocent I don't think this is best. JMHO and once again I'm ok with agreeing to disagree

 

[Salem]

BBM: Would you be so kind as to provide us with a few cases that had a close/similar set of circumstances to Dylan's disappearance?

Amber DuBois - her stepfather was the #1 POI - it turned out to be an RSO recently released from prison.

The Duregard case (my spelling is off here) - her stepfather was also the #1 POI - turned out to be an RSO recently released from prison.

Nurse (I think it was Nurse) mentioned a couple in the last thread. Sierra LaMar, iirc.

Somer Thompson - many accused her mother and the guy friend. To my knowledge, mom was never a POI. Turned out to be some neighbor.

These all I can think of at the moment. My point is that I've learned things are not always what they seem.

Salem

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'm not Salem, obviously, but the first case that comes to my mind: Polly Klaas. Her father, Marc, was a POI at the very beginning b/c of the divorce, b/c who else would be able to get into a home undetected and then take a girl during a slumber party, etc.

Again, I'm on the fence about MR but leaning slightly over to one side.

Yes, but wasn't Marc talking to the media and trying to help find his daughter?

Most people that know they are innocent are not afraid to be questioned or confronted by anyone because all they care about is find their child. No matter what it takes!

 

[Seajay]

Respectfully BBM.
It's my understanding LE ruled out runaway almost immediately, within a week at least.
I haven't seen anything that said he packed two backpacks and didn't like the rules, do you have a link? That's new to me TIA


Here's a quote from the paper, Durango Herald dtd 11/28/2012 - please forgive, I'm not sure how to provide links yet. I did bold what I felt was the answer to the question in regards to LE thinking he ran awy.

The law-enforcement task force canvassing the Vallecito community for clues to the disappearance of 13-year-old Dylan Redwine has discarded the possibility that he ran away Nov. 19 from his father’s home north of the reservoir, La Plata County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Dan Bender said Wednesday.

Missing teen may have been upset about order

“There’s a combination of factors,” Bender said. “There’s been the passage of time without any sightings; Dylan was not a visitor but had friends here; he has a history of staying in contact with his family and friends; and there’s been nothing on his cellphone record since he was reported missing.”

He said a million things were running through his head about what could have happened to his son. He said he doesn’t think Dylan ran away.

He has nothing and no one to run away from, Mark Redwine said.

I think you misundersstood. That's the tail end of a conversation we had upthread about how many missing children are found after 2 months. I noted that Daniel Christensen just returned after being missing 4 months. A poster said they were trying to find something on that, and asked if it was determined he was abducted or ran away. And that is the response to that question that you have quoted. Daniel Christensen ran away. He packed two bags and was being taken care of by someone for 4 months who thought he was being abused at home.

 

[cluciano63]

Amber DuBois - her stepfather was the #1 POI - it turned out to be an RSO recently released from prison.

The Duregard case (my spelling is off here) - her stepfather was also the #1 POI - turned out to be an RSO recently released from prison.

Nurse (I think it was Nurse) mentioned a couple in the last thread. Sierra LaMar, iirc.

Somer Thompson - many accused her mother and the guy friend. To my knowledge, mom was never a POI. Turned out to be some neighbor.

These all I can think of at the moment. My point is that I've learned things are not always what they seem.

Salem

Many of those people did all they could to clear themselves and dedicate the efforts toward finding the missing child. Perhaps MR is doing something or other, but not so you would notice.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I'm not Salem, obviously, but the first case that comes to my mind: Polly Klaas. Her father, Marc, was a POI at the very beginning b/c of the divorce, b/c who else would be able to get into a home undetected and then take a girl during a slumber party, etc.

Again, I'm on the fence about MR but leaning slightly over to one side.

Went missing...but under very different circumstances.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Many of those examples given, the person was speaking out to the media and very involved in helping find their child. Regardless of being a POI or not.

Let me tell you, if my child were missing and I was named a POI (and innocent) I would not give a rip what anyone thought and my only focus would be on FINDING MY CHILD! I would say accuse me, question me, look into my past, do whatever you need to do to FIND MY CHILD!!

 

[azgrandma]

Who is putting the focus on MR? Also, you don't know that he is not doing anything to help. I'm not defending him, per se, but we don't know that he is not doing anything. The most important thing he can do is cooperate with LE, help them anyway he can. Public feuds with his ex do not help Dylan - personally, I think such feuds harm Dylan's case.

MR knows he is the #1 suspect. But if he is innocent, given the accusations in the media, imo, the best thing he can do is lay low and let LE do their job. If he is guilty, the best thing he can do is lay low and let LE do their job. IMO, he is doing the best that he can right now.
Where, in MSM or from LE, does it say that he is doing "nothing" to help bring his son home? A link would be appreciated.

Salem

PS - I fall back on several cases that had a POI from the start, only to have the perp be someone totally different. We need to look at this with an open mind and open eyes.

BBM - we do know through all the MSM's that what he is not speaking with ER or CR.

IMO (in regards to the 2 BBM) laying low is not helping to find a missing child. I agree that a quilty person would lay low and allow LE to do their job all in hopes that they wouldn't get caught. IMO an innocent parent doesn't lay low.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Many of those people did all they could to clear themselves and dedicate the efforts toward finding the missing child. Perhaps MR is doing something or other, but not so you would notice.

The thing is, we (the public) would know if he was doing much of anything productive. It is clear that the locals are watching his every move. It is also clear (on <modsnip> the official <modsnip> of FB) that there is a lot of people from the community who don't have good things to say about MR or how he is/is not handling this child's disappearance.
Everyone lies. But everyone doesn't lie all the time. And everyone doesn't tell the same lie at the same time.

 

[Salem]

BBM: I also think it's unfair to categorize the posters who are leaning toward MR responsibility as not looking at this with "an open mind and open eyes".
I can't speak for others, but I have plenty of reasons to be looking closely at MR and it appears that many others do as well. Just because you and others don't agree with our perspective, please do not assume that we haven't looked at this case carefully. JMO

ETA: Although I understand the hesitancy of this site to allow anyone to outright call MR guilty due to litigious issues, it puzzles me when I see the hostility directed at ER and CR on this thread. Directing us to keep an open mind is one thing, but I don't see how it is in any way productive to point ANY fingers at a momma who's child is missing. Her pain is real.

Sorry NC - I did not mean to categorize any of our posters. Was not my intent at all. I understand why everyone is looking at MR. I understand. So far, the limited evidence we have points us right there.

You are definitely entitled to your opinion and to post it and talk about it. The issue comes up when things are stated as fact and yet we have no facts to substantiate the info.

It has been stated as fact that "MR is doing nothing" but we don't really know that. My point is that we don't have the facts to make such blanket statements and that we sell ourselves short when we accept things as fact without analyzing them.

Salem