CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #27

[cluciano63]

I have not seen MR "trashed". I am sure it is not allowed anyway. But to have questions about why his ex and son claim he will not talk to them, why he refuse the media, are natural, IMO. To have a parent of a missing child choose to be invisible and silent is very unusual at this stage, IMO.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'd like to see that, or even better, I'd like to see the thread start being about finding Dylan more than trashing MR.

MOO

Well we've already talked about other scenario's. What did you have in mind? I have not trashed MR at all. I see him as a person of interest. I do not know him personally so I have no personal opinion about him. I'm smart enough to understand that not everything I've heard or read about him is necessarily true.

 

[mck16]

Well after what I saw on another (unnamed) site, I don't know if that's such a good idea

I come to Websleuth's to get facts on a case and listen to some brilliant sleuthers. I do listen to and value everyone's opinion on here. Whether it agrees with my own or not.

I agree with you and I always have an open mind, but we are discussing the same thing day after day and I don't see that moving us any closer to finding Dylan. jmo

 

[azgrandma]

We are going in circles a lot. I'm not sure that sleuthing others would help or hurt. Kind of torn on both sides.
I feel like we have a paper bag and without looking, touching, smelling, asking any questions, we are guessing what's in the bag.
The entire thing is a process of elimination and that process isn't possible. (I certainly understand why)

 

[cluciano63]

If LE does not suspect MR, then they are doing him and Dylan both a huge disservice by their continued silence, IMO, unless they have a case going against someone else. I do not see why they would leave a parent out to dry this way, though, if he has been cleared. It seems very cruel.

 

[PaulR]

If LE does not suspect MR, then they are doing him and Dylan both a huge disservice by their continued silence, IMO, unless they have a case going against someone else. I do not see why they would leave a parent out to dry this way, though, if he has been cleared. It seems very cruel.

Sadly this would not be the first time LE has done such a disservice, and I seriously doubt it will be the last.

Of course if MR knows that he isn't the targeted suspect, he may be "taking one for the team" as it were and all this would be much more bearable.

 

[princessk]

After reading Cory's answers to a lot of our questions, I can only think one way now. So maybe I should leave yet again......

 

[Confusion]

Well we've already talked about other scenario's. What did you have in mind? I have not trashed MR at all. I see him as a person of interest. I do not know him personally so I have no personal opinion about him. I'm smart enough to understand that not everything I've heard or read about him is necessarily true.

I've tried discussing other possibilities, but it all comes down to so many here believe that nothing is possible unless he's behind it that the topic turns right back to him after one or two posts. If that starts to become the main focus, I'll be happy to discuss other options. Until then, I'll keep reading, waiting for some kind of news to show up, and do my best not to cause trouble. :fence:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I agree with you and I always have an open mind, but we are discussing the same thing day after day and I don't see that moving us any closer to finding Dylan. jmo

In all honesty I don't think 'WE' are going to find Dylan. We have nothing else to discuss but for some reason we all keep coming back. I don't think any of us are ready to give up on Dylan just yet.

 

[mijamawi]

If LE does not suspect MR, then they are doing him and Dylan both a huge disservice by their continued silence, IMO, unless they have a case going against someone else. I do not see why they would leave a parent out to dry this way, though, if he has been cleared. It seems very cruel.

JMO, but what if they have someone else in mind and all the attention being placed on MR is helping said person feel safe while LE builds their case. Honestly, I don't know. I'm grasping at anything right now.

 

[cluciano63]

Even if there is no news, there may be things to be learned in cases. by what LE is seen to be doing, or not doing, etc. at the very least there is the discussion of how and why LE acts so differently in each case, lol...

Or on a more serious note, whether any LEA really has the ability to solve these cases without a confession and/or body. Very, very few of the "no body" cases that have been prosecuted over the last several decades involve children and if they do, there is generally a crime scene, at least.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I've tried discussing other possibilities, but it all comes down to so many here believe that nothing is possible unless he's behind it that the topic turns right back to him after one or two posts. If that starts to become the main focus, I'll be happy to discuss other options. Until then, I'll keep reading, waiting for some kind of news to show up, and do my best not to cause trouble. :fence:

Oh you're not causing trouble! I appreciate your theories, I really do. But in the end we all have to form our own opinion based on the little bit that we do know. I will admit we don't know much and I think your theories are all possible.

 

[PaulR]

Or on a more serious note, whether any LEA really has the ability to solve these cases without a confession and/or body. Very, very few of the "no body" cases that have been prosecuted over the last several decades involve children and if they do, there is generally a crime scene, at least.

True. There have been a few - Logan Tucker, Jhessye Shockley, Tyreek Davis (whose body was recovered but only after the conviction of his killer.)

 

[cluciano63]

True. There have been a few - Logan Tucker, Jhessye Shockley, Tyreek Davis (whose body was recovered but only after the conviction of his killer.)

Also I have found that when they do prosecute, if not a crime scene, there may be past instances of physical harm to the chid,used as criteria for bringing a case. I read through all of the several hundred "no body" cases on a website a year or so ago, and that is what I recall, either a crime scene or a good reason to suspect that a specific person caused fatal injuries to the child, based on past history. The only exception I can think of to those two conditions is Caylee Anthony, but LE had another whole set of reasons to believe she had been murdered.

 

[Salem]

There really isn't much to sleuth MR that hasn't already been sleuthed. I was thinking maybe friends family, etc. It has been mentioned that someone could be hiding him out. Who would that be? Grandparents, uncles. I am just throwing this out there and I certainly understand if it is not feasible or WS legal. jmo

It is NOT WS "legal." Don't go there and don't bring it here.

There are reasons for not opening that door. The internet is a big, big place and what gets posted on it, stays on it. All anyone has to do, is envision themselves in the shoes of a sister, cousin, brother and they will understand why we don't allow that kind of sleuthing of innocent individuals.

Other things - we will not close the thread (unless the bickering gets out of hand and I see it is on the rise tonight ). Even with no news, old stuff can be rehashed again. And then rehashed again, and then rehased again. You never know when something will click for someone and a new idea will spring from it. For those that don't like rehashing, they can just read, or visit other threads and wait for new news, or what ever they wish to do. Its all good.

This is about Dylan. It appears it is going to take persistence, patience, and a lot of prayer to bring him home. There is no stopping now. lease:

Salem

 

[TxLady2]

That was me you were responding to. My point is that if LE does not have a suspect to hand, then their silence is hurting Dylan and seems unfair to the community.

The FBI seems to be involved in the investigation, and it's been said several times that they do not share information with the public until the case is solved. That's just how they roll.

For all we know, LE may have several suspects, not just one. Or they may not have any. But I don't see where their silence is hurting anyone. They do not have to tell the public anything.

I've followed a lot of cases now for probably ten years or more. I will say, in the cases where LE has been more vocal and more free with sharing what they know, those are the cases that never seem to get resolved... either there have been no arrests or the body was never found, or both. When cases such as the few we've seen recently that are solved and someone is behind bars, it was usually one where LE was silent and did not let the public in on what they were doing until the arrest was made, and everything broke at the same time. So please tell me... how is LE hurting anybody by being silent?

Their priority is to find Dylan and figure out what happened, and to hopefully put somebody behind bars. They have to be ever mindful of the integrity of the case as well. Once it goes to trial, they've got one chance to see justice done, and they have to get it right. And I can tell you, that blabbing everything they know to the public will NOT ensure justice is done. Case in point: Casey Anthony is walking around on free feet today, even though everybody in the country knew that case backwards and forwards long before the trial ever started.

I rest my case.

 

[cluciano63]

The FBI seems to be involved in the investigation, and it's been said several times that they do not share information with the public until the case is solved. That's just how they roll.

For all we know, LE may have several suspects, not just one. Or they may not have any. But I don't see where their silence is hurting anyone. They do not have to tell the public anything.

I've followed a lot of cases now for probably ten years or more. I will say, in the cases where LE has been more vocal and more free with sharing what they know, those are the cases that never seem to get resolved... either there have been no arrests or the body was never found, or both. When cases such as the few we've seen recently that are solved and someone is behind bars, it was usually one where LE was silent and did not let the public in on what they were doing until the arrest was made, and everything broke at the same time. So please tell me... how is LE hurting anybody by being silent?

Their priority is to find Dylan and figure out what happened, and to hopefully put somebody behind bars. They have to be ever mindful of the integrity of the case as well. Once it goes to trial, they've got one chance to see justice done, and they have to get it right. And I can tell you, that blabbing everything they know to the public will NOT ensure justice is done. Case in point: Casey Anthony is walking around on free feet today, even though everybody in the country knew that case backwards and forwards long before the trial ever started.

I rest my case.

Who is asking for LE to blab about the case? I think it would be responsible to at least acknowledge that Dylan existed once in a while, especially if they do not have a good suspect. If nothing else, he still needs to be found.

 

[TxLady2]

I guess maybe they would come back if they really thought there was a possibility of MR hiding him somewhere. Surely they would check out thoroughly more than a few times if they thought this was the case?

I guarantee you that if MR had been hiding Dylan in or around that house, they would have found him the first time.

No, they aren't going to come back, they already did a full forensics search of the house. To get another warrant now, it would have to be new information about something very specific for them to come back and go through it again.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

The FBI seems to be involved in the investigation, and it's been said several times that they do not share information with the public until the case is solved. That's just how they roll.

For all we know, LE may have several suspects, not just one. Or they may not have any. But I don't see where their silence is hurting anyone. They do not have to tell the public anything.

I've followed a lot of cases now for probably ten years or more. I will say, in the cases where LE has been more vocal and more free with sharing what they know, those are the cases that never seem to get resolved... either there have been no arrests or the body was never found, or both. When cases such as the few we've seen recently that are solved and someone is behind bars, it was usually one where LE was silent and did not let the public in on what they were doing until the arrest was made, and everything broke at the same time. So please tell me... how is LE hurting anybody by being silent?

Their priority is to find Dylan and figure out what happened, and to hopefully put somebody behind bars. They have to be ever mindful of the integrity of the case as well. Once it goes to trial, they've got one chance to see justice done, and they have to get it right. And I can tell you, that blabbing everything they know to the public will NOT ensure justice is done. Case in point: Casey Anthony is walking around on free feet today, even though everybody in the country knew that case backwards and forwards long before the trial ever started.

I rest my case.

Well, if Dylan was abducted by a stranger, it would be beneficial for the case to have media coverage since someone might see him or know something. And LE talking would help to generate media interest. Elaine seems to think MR was involved...yet still wants national attention. So it seems me that Dylan's mother thinks the investigation would be helped if there was more coverage. If LE communicated with the public/media, we would see more attention to this case.

Also, what does Casey Anthony's case have to do with this case? Even if LE was more vocal, this case is never going to become the media circus that one did. Also, I'm not sure if LE in the Anthony case blabbed everything they knew, or if the Sunshine Laws made every piece of information available.

Big difference between LE blabbing everything they know...and communicating more with the media and public.

 

[mck16]

In all honesty I don't think 'WE' are going to find Dylan. We have nothing else to discuss but for some reason we all keep coming back. I don't think any of us are ready to give up on Dylan just yet.

I don't think so either. Just speculating as to new avenues to explore.