CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #27

[eileenhawkeye]

I thought the discussion was about why LE is not speaking out in the public and telling everything they know. Sure everybody wants media coverage for their missing child, but not just local coverage. I believe I said it would be good if there was more national coverage because most people in that area already know Dylan is missing. I never said that media attention was not a good thing.

What the case does NOT need is more criticism of LE for not speaking out, and there are many reasons why they don't. If there is nothing new to report, then it makes no sense to hold a PC just to tell us they don't have any new information. I think if I had so little faith in LE, I would not be following these missing cases. I would take up a new hobby like knitting or something. But that's JMO.

I can't think of any case where LE told the public everything they know. Maybe JonBenet's case, since there were lots of leaks between LE/DA and the media. In Caylee's case, the Sunshine Laws allowed the media to find out every detail. But here on WS, we can barely have discussions about most cases a year later because of how little information is released about them. Big difference between being more communicative with the media/public (I don't think LE has held one press conference in this case) and releasing every little detail.

And just because LE is quiet, doesn't mean the case wouldn't benefit from more media coverage. Look at Holly Bobo's case. I believe LE stopped talking to the public very early on. Holly's case is still unsolved, and hasn't received much coverage in a while. I don't see how more media attention wouldn't help Holly's case. LE doesn't seem to have a problem with Holly's name/picture not being out there...but the case is still unsolved.

 

[scorekeeper]

I can't think of any case where LE told the public everything they know. Maybe JonBenet's case, since there were lots of leaks between LE/DA and the media. In Caylee's case, the Sunshine Laws allowed the media to find out every detail. But here on WS, we can barely have discussions about most cases a year later because of how little information is released about them. Big difference between being more communicative with the media/public (I don't think LE has held one press conference in this case) and releasing every little detail.

BBM

They have spoken to the media (local and Nancy G) and they sent out press releases but NO they have never had official press conferences.

I think they should have - it's never to late :banghead:

 

[mmmagique]

If they went with Dylan involuntarily, it's kidnapping.

If Dylan went away voluntarily, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't contact his mother or his brother.

I disagree. Accidental drowning and kidnapping are not the only two things that could have happened to him.

 

[mmmagique]

They found nothing at the lake. Subsequent searches were along the road leading to Durango. And they may have searched other areas (I think Ransom hinted at this.)

That does not mean that kidnapping is the only possibility LE is considering.

 

[PaulR]

We don't know if evidence was left behind as they have not found a crime scene and from what I can gather its got miles of hills and land. And a window of 10 hours for a possible cover up .

MOO

MR does not strike me as the type of person who could thoroughly cover up a crime scene.

 

[PaulR]

I disagree. Accidental drowning and kidnapping are not the only two things that could have happened to him.

I'm interested in hearing the alternatives.

 

[PaulR]

So you really don't think he fell in the lake? Do you think it's possible that MR had Dylan taken out of the country and was planning on joining him at some point?

Why would MR wait? He has nothing to gain and everything to lose by staying put.

Has there been a case where a child was taken out of the country, and the parent responsible waited around and then joined the child?

 

[Eileen730]

What are the alternatives?

He didn't run away.
I can't see him vanishing voluntarily (not running away but hanging out with family/friends and not telling anyone by now)
If he was murdered at or near MRs house, the police would almost certainly have found evidence.

He was either kidnapped or he fell into the lake.

Now I think if he was kidnapped there would be some kind of evidence.
Door or windows broken or opened. Things knocked over.
I think that is the first thought of LE that someone took him.
what if by searching the house they find he was never there.
This is a very mind boggling case thats for sure.
That darned fishing pole to me rules out abduction.

If he was harmed near the house LE has to find the spot but I think LE really needs to find Dylan

I dont think he ran away either.


I hope we find out what happend here I really do!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Why would MR wait? He has nothing to gain and everything to lose by staying put.

Has there been a case where a child was taken out of the country, and the parent responsible waited around and then joined the child?

No clue. I was just asking your thoughts on this possibility. I never said that I think this is what happened. I don't. I just think there are some that do.

 

[PaulR]

OK, off to work. I'll respond tonight. Here's hoping I miss all the news about Dylan being found.

 

[cluciano63]

I'm interested in hearing the alternatives.

I think until LE says otherwise, it is possible that Dylan never made it to his father's house and was harmed in some way en route. That would not qualify as "kidnapping".

 

[Eileen730]

Why would MR wait? He has nothing to gain and everything to lose by staying put.

Has there been a case where a child was taken out of the country, and the parent responsible waited around and then joined the child?

Dont you think hes being watched ?
I do.

He stays a free man by staying put as I see it he cant go anywhere.

 

[asyousay]

MR does not strike me as the type of person who could thoroughly cover up a crime scene.

I think most people with that kind of a window could make a cover up of it in the middle of nowhere IMO.

 

[mmmagique]

More interesting postings on FB today. See all.

 

[scorekeeper]

I think until LE says otherwise, it is possible that Dylan never made it to his father's house and was harmed in some way en route. That would not qualify as "kidnapping".

But it would qualify as "foul play".

 

[stx722]

First post as a WS'er. I have been reading off and on about Dylan and some of the other missing persons cases. I don't know if the idea of bear attack has been explored. I know I have seen posts mentioning mountain lion attacks, but not bears. I may have missed it though.

Found this article: http://www.elpasotimes.com/newmexico/ci_21487295/bear-sightings-increase-southwest-colorado

Posted in Sept. 2012, the article mentions "a significant rise in black bear sightings and encounters, specifically in southern Colorado cities like Durango and resort areas such as Vallecito Lake."

Apologies if this has been discussed already.

MOO of course.

It's sad to think that this may have happened, but is a very real possibility to me.

 

[Eileen730]

The longer Dylan is missing without any bad guy passing my own personal sniff tests the more I suspect that he was an accident victim. (I'm well aware that all noses work differently.) I wonder whether Dylan packed up his belongings and headed off to his friend's house and something happened. Maybe he was bushwhacking and got lost. Maybe a mountain lion got him... I researched the mountain lion attack angle a little bit and it is not outside the realm of possibility.

I realize that the lack of communication on Dylan's part after Sunday evening is a sticking point for many, but I'm not convinced we're really in a position to say "well, Dylan would have..." anything. Dylan is a 13 year old child and at any given time in any given circumstance 13 year olds don't behave as responsible adults would; they don't necessarily behave as their friends would. Shoot, they don't even necessarily behave as they would have the day before or the day after.

If a wild animal got him id think his backpack possibly clothes his charger and that fishing pole might have been found,.

I know exactly what my teens would do and I think most of you would also they are your children. If Dylan was unhappy with dad for some reason I think he would have sent a text to mom or his brother unfortunately I think this was what he was going to do but his phone was taken from him. My guess was he was going to call mom to come and get him.

JMO

 

[cluciano63]

First post as a WS'er. I have been reading off and on about Dylan and some of the other missing persons cases. I don't know if the idea of bear attack has been explored. I know I have seen posts mentioning mountain lion attacks, but not bears. I may have missed it though.

Found this article: http://www.elpasotimes.com/newmexico/ci_21487295/bear-sightings-increase-southwest-colorado

Posted in Sept. 2012, the article mentions "a significant rise in black bear sightings and encounters, specifically in southern Colorado cities like Durango and resort areas such as Vallecito Lake."

Apologies if this has been discussed already.

MOO of course.

It's sad to think that this may have happened, but is a very real possibility to me.

Welcome to WS. I considered such an event, but LE seems to have ruled this kind of scenario out fairly quickly, though we do not know why. It does make me wonder if they are very certain about some things, i.e. do they know he did not leave the house on foot, or that perhaps he was never there, or that the phone stoppage indicates time of foul play? Or did they simply rule out an accident or an animal attack due to lack of evidence?

 

[mmmagique]

But it would qualify as "foul play".

Yes, but we were responding to the post that said that LE is only considering kidnapping at this point. I disagreed. :seeya:

 

[DylansMom34]

First post as a WS'er. I have been reading off and on about Dylan and some of the other missing persons cases. I don't know if the idea of bear attack has been explored. I know I have seen posts mentioning mountain lion attacks, but not bears. I may have missed it though.

Found this article: http://www.elpasotimes.com/newmexico/ci_21487295/bear-sightings-increase-southwest-colorado

Posted in Sept. 2012, the article mentions "a significant rise in black bear sightings and encounters, specifically in southern Colorado cities like Durango and resort areas such as Vallecito Lake."

Apologies if this has been discussed already.

MOO of course.

It's sad to think that this may have happened, but is a very real possibility to me.

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