CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #28

[mijamawi]

Yes, especially Dylan did not even live in the area. Quite a "perfect" day for the perp indeed, who would also, it seems, be the ONLY person to see Dylan that day. No one seems to have seen him at all, except for the perp.

There was a story on Dateline or 48 Hour Mysteries a few years ago about a woman who was killed on her patio late at night. Her husband was the only POI. There were many things that came out that pointed directly at him, but it turned out to be some crazy cross country truck driver, and he was only caught because his last victim (a teenage girl) made enough noise for her parents to come in and catch the guy. These things happen and until I get that definitive piece of evidence or clue from LE, then all are innocent until proven guilty. JMO

 

[The Cheese]

FWIW , I 'll share this again, because this DOES happen, a parent falsely accused, even charged and convicted when there was actually a sneaky killer on the loose no one knew about . I won't go as far as to say it happens all the time, but I've thought of this case often while following Dylan's case.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2931404&page=1

Thank you for posting that, Schmae

 

[Allusonz]

Why would a 13 yr old boy, who was popular, with many friends, and many girls he was interested in, and a brand new remodeled house in a nice town, and a new school that he loved, ever want to be 'stashed' away?

I kinda lean towards this being someone else's idylic life rather than Dylan's perception of an idylic life.

He had moved in July from friends he grew up with for many years.

My son when 13 could care less what the house looked like. I do know how many times I stated I would have to bring in exterminators for his room alone.

I hope he has a nice young lady that he was interested in.

 

[Allusonz]

Yes, especially Dylan did not even live in the area. Quite a "perfect" day for the perp indeed, who would also, it seems, be the ONLY person to see Dylan that day. No one seems to have seen him at all, except for the perp.

All the more reason to check out any connections to his mother, brother, his moms fiancee, and any other individual that may of shown an interest in Dylan whether that was in Colorado Springs, the internet etc.

 

[Tennlyn]

I have NOT ruled out a possible stranger abduction; however, logically I have to account for Sunday night's timeline and thus far I have seen ZERO evidence from LE that Dylan ever made it to MR's home. ETA: In fact, LE's timeline released today didn't even include Dylan arriving at MR's home - thanks whoever pointed that out earlier.

I've thought about non-TOS possibilities, but can't come up with a viable scenario for any of them. No good motives, no easy access, and I don't find anyone else 'hinky'. In fact, most of the other players have earned my respect and admiration.

MR sets off all my internal alarm bells, and that combined with the holes in the timeline makes me highly suspicious.

All JMO/MOO.

 

[Allusonz]

O/T but I miss FruitTingles.

Totally O/T as well but that was one of the most beautiful babies I have seen.

I wonder if she is now catching up on her sleep!

 

[dlc]

When I have to make tough decisions, I like to step back & let it gell in the back of my mind before making a decision to try & keep emotion out of it. On the other hand you need & should cherish your gut instinct. You may have no concrete evidence or reason even not to trust someone but you just don't & then you find out later they :what:

I agree with you. I guess I didn't express myself clearly. I'm going to go back and edit my post.

Thanks!

 

[Tennlyn]

I agree with you. I guess I didn't express myself clearly. I'm going to go back and edit my post.

Thanks!

I liked your post as it was!

I was discussing the confirmation bias thing with my DH earlier, and he said refusing to see evidence that is there because you want to believe someone is innocent is also confirmation bias. It all depends on what your starting belief is.

 

[jjenny]

By 9:37 pm, MR and DR should have arrived at his home.
I am very curious as to what the communication was and to whom. Can LE tell what location it was coming from?

 

[dlc]

I liked your post as it was!

I was discussing the confirmation bias thing with my DH earlier, and he said refusing to see evidence that is there because you want to believe someone is innocent is also confirmation bias. It all depends on what your starting belief is.

Oh, thank you. I did go back and edit it a little, just to make my question clearer.

P.S. - I agree with your DH.

 

[i8mypaint]

Went to dinner with a friend and have 24 pages to go through!!! Way to go Cory!!! You've got everyone talking!!!

 

[Seajay]

FWIW , I 'll share this again, because this DOES happen, a parent falsely accused, even charged and convicted when there was actually a sneaky killer on the loose no one knew about . I won't go as far as to say it happens all the time, but I've thought of this case often while following Dylan's case.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2931404&page=1

These are the kind of cases that make me want to be really cautious before I decide that someone would harm their child. This woman not only had to deal with the murder of her son, she was arrested and indicted for his murder, she was found guilty and went to prison. She had an ex-husband who said those oh so loving words, "If he/she can't have him, no one can", giving a motive to the murder of their child.

How cruel is it to put a person through this when they are innocent??? How terrible for the parent to have to deal with the loss of their child, the uncertainty of knowing what happened, the guilt in feeling they couldn't protect them, then be accused of being the person to harm them.

MR loves his son, I've seen that in print, where said so himself. He loves him. This has to be traumatizing for him to go through, and on top of them he has everyone with a finger pointing it at him.

It's not like innocent people haven't been falsely accused. Here is a classic case of it.

I want to wait until I have something tangible. With LE knowing way more and keeping things to themselves, I have not seen enough to make me get off the fence and look at everything with the assumption he is guilty. JMO

 

[belimom]

FWIW , I 'll share this again, because this DOES happen, a parent falsely accused, even charged and convicted when there was actually a sneaky killer on the loose no one knew about . I won't go as far as to say it happens all the time, but I've thought of this case often while following Dylan's case.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2931404&page=1

Thank you for posting that, Schmae

First of all, I'm leaning towards MR (and reading the story above doesn't really change that). But wow. That story you posted is awful. I read the entire article and then some. Hitting the thanks button wasn't enough.

 

[Angelonline]

I am about to head to bed because I have that pesky work thing again tomorrow. :sigh:
Everyone has been good and respectful to each other tonight, which is great because we are all really here for the same thing, Dylan..
Goodnight everyone, another mod will be along shortly

 

[i8mypaint]

The article also said they got their reports back from the CBI crime lab, met with the FBI and have been out searching again the last couple of days. Why is this? The only things I know of that went to the crime lab were a few things collected from MR's, maybe his trucks? and a few things collected by searchers. So what did they find that prompted them to go out searching again?

Ooh ooh mindys finding?????

 

[cluciano63]

I think that in this case, Dylan did want to get to his friends ASAP. I know teens like to sleep in, etc. but this was a special occasion, and to me, he sounded pretty persistent with R. Blowing it off does not seem likely to me, although not impossible of course.

I do think LE investigated all of Dylan's family and connections; why wouldn't they? That is step #1 in any type of case. But from what I am seeing, hearing and inferring (not convicting), LE has the focus much closer to the source.

I think the 9:37PM communication could be the key, or it could be nothing. It either means he was still fine and in touch, or that someone was impersonating him. We just don't know.

I think LE has lots of clues. But we have a whole huge forum here of missing persons without arrests where LE also has a whole lot of clues, just not enough to put together a case. I am really nervous about Dylan's case never being solved/brought to court.

 

[Tonto]

is it true that everyone makes certain assumptions; that few if any of us operate from a purely logical standpoint, unencumbered by any bias at all? We just can't see it as clearly in ourselves?

Yes. And I made it clear in another post that everyone instinctively operates under assumptions, and that it is difficult to remove said assumptions when positing one's theories. I also stated that it should be the goal of anyone who wishes to view things in a structured way to learn to a) recognize those inherently biased qualities within themselves, and b) consciously try to dispose of them. Embracing them does little to assist one's critical thinking skills.

ETA: I was taking the long way around (southern upbringing) and wasn't clear enough. So, what I'm really asking is, can the bolded statement be seen as a form of confirmation bias as well?

Pointing out confirmation bias is not confirmation bias.

 

[Confusion]

I think that in this case, Dylan did want to get to his friends ASAP. I know teens like to sleep in, etc. but this was a special occasion, and to me, he sounded pretty persistent with R. Blowing it off does not seem likely to me, although not impossible of course.

I do think LE investigated all of Dylan's family and connections; why wouldn't they? That is step #1 in any type of case. But from what I am seeing, hearing and inferring (not convicting), LE has the focus much closer to the source.

I think the 9:37PM communication could be the key, or it could be nothing. It either means he was still fine and in touch, or that someone was impersonating him. We just don't know.

I think LE has lots of clues. But we have a whole huge forum here of missing persons without arrests where LE also has a whole lot of clues, just not enough to put together a case. I am really nervous about Dylan's case never being solved/brought to court.

I have to admit that the 9:37 communication makes little sense to me. If Dylan sent a text to someone at that time, I can't believe that nobody would have at least heard a rumor about it. If someone else sent one pretending to be him, I'd still expect somebody to know about it. That leaves me to believe one of two things. Either the message didn't happen, or it was sent to someone who doesn't want it known for some reason.

I can't think of any reason MR would feel it was beneficial to do it, so my first choice would be that it was an error in reporting. If that's not the case, then I'm back to believing it may have been a message for somebody saying when MR would be leaving the next morning and possibly setting up a ride (home, to the friend's house or to wherever he is now.) MOO

 

[SmoothOperator]

You had me at ninja........ You.Had.Me.At.Ninja. :floorlaugh:

You know it!

 

[cluciano63]

I hope people are not counting too much on the reward. IMO, anyone who has an idea or actual info as to where Dylan is by now is an accessory. I have seen a number of posts on the official FB page that seem to indicate a train of thought that the reward will be the answer, when it so seldom is.

People do not like to admit they have been holding back info on a child in danger.