CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #28

[Deleted member 39678]

I can text from my iPad and it doesn't show up on any phone bill. I have something called TextNow (which uses wifi) . My kids have something different on their iPod touches but it does allow them to text through the iPod using wifi and not phone services.

I'm starting to see a pattern here. People can text message and not leave a record of it on their phone bill. Maybe that's why Elaine thought that Dylan's last message was at 8:00 when in reality it was at 9:37 PM.

 

[Dixie811]

9:37PM Dylan’s last electronic device communication (texting)

it says Dylan's electronic device was communicating....doesn't necessarily mean Dylan personally was using the device.....someone else could have been using his device

BBM I hadn't read/interpreted the statement in that way before. Thanks for fresh eyes! :seeya:

 

[mijamawi]

That's the impression that I get from them. And that seems to put Dylan alive at 9:37 PM. He goes to sleep a bit after that. That fits with Marks story right?

Yep, as far as I know...

 

[Seajay]

We may not know what device was used, but LE clearly states it was Dylan's last contact, right?

Yup. That and everything Mark said they did from the time he picked Dylan up from the airport was verified of what could be verified. He didn't lie about any of that. And the 9:37 pm text message showed that Dylan was probably alive, depending on where that text message came from and to whom it was sent.

The sad part about Mark being the only one we can sleuth is that he's going to be the only suspect so we need to take everything we know and apply it to ONLY him. We aren't allowed to talk about anything else unless it's the ambiguous perp on the street or an RSO, or bears, mountain lions and lakes. There really isn't anywhere else for us to go.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

9:37PM Dylan’s last electronic device communication (texting)

it says Dylan's electronic device was communicating....doesn't necessarily mean Dylan personally was using the device.....someone else could have been using his device

Or it could have been Dylan's last communication while using someone else's device.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think we can tell for sure if LE even knows whether it was Dylan using the device.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I don't think we can tell for sure if LE even knows whether it was Dylan using the device.

We can't tell with the information that they have allowed us to see. But I have a feeling that they know. JMO.

 

[mijamawi]

We can't tell with the information that they have allowed us to see. But I have a feeling that they know. JMO.

Agreed. Why would they even release it as his last communication if they weren't sure? They obviously had no problem in the past not releasing information.

 

[belimom]

I think if this last text really has no bearing on the case, then LE would have released more info about it. That leads me to believe that they are releasing the info b/c they know it will let the perp know about it - and let the perp stew over that and feel the pressure. Or it included information that they don't want anyone to know that they have yet. In other words, something that may contradict what any POIs may have been saying, etc.

 

[Tennlyn]

9:37PM Dylan’s last electronic device communication (texting)

it says Dylan's electronic device was communicating....doesn't necessarily mean Dylan personally was using the device.....someone else could have been using his device

Are we sure that LE is saying that this was an outgoing text from Dylan's "electronic device"?

I'm still wondering if it's his friend's 9:27 pm text being received. After that, the phone may have gone dead for some reason. Thus the additional texts Monday morning were not received.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Agreed. Why would they even release it as his last communication if they weren't sure? They obviously had no problem in the past not releasing information.

I can't think of a reason why they would misrepresent a timeline to the public.

It's a well known fact that LE sometimes lies to suspects to gain an advantage in an interrogation but going to the media and putting out a false timeline in a missing persons case? I sure hope not.

 

[scorekeeper]

Are we sure that LE is saying that this was an outgoing text from Dylan's "electronic device"?

I'm still wondering if it's his friend's 9:27 pm text being received. After that, the phone may have gone dead for some reason. Thus the additional texts Monday morning were not received.

It could be....if his phone was going in/out of service/tower area. This makes sense to me.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

finally caught up again.

does anyone else find it curious that what LE released was again related to the sunday night? it looks to me as if thats where their focus is at.

IIRC in the early days of this case wasn't there mention of uncertainty if it was actually Dylan that sent a text? remember we had loads of discussion about how hard/easy people thought it would be for someone to impersonate someone else by text.

 

[cluciano63]

OT, but if MR said he won't be around tomorrow, I doubt there will be any drama. In fact, it may be anti-climatic now in a way, since the media has already come back to the case, and LE already spoke out.

 

[Dixie811]

Are we sure that LE is saying that this was an outgoing text from Dylan's "electronic device"?

I'm still wondering if it's his friend's 9:27 pm text being received. After that, the phone may have gone dead for some reason. Thus the additional texts Monday morning were not received.

I've thought about that and it certainly makes sense to me. I have leaned toward thinking they released the info about this communication to indicate this was the last time they have any indication he was alive (if it was Dylan who sent the msg).

If I think about it your way, that this last "communication" was the incoming text from Ryan (slightly delayed, possibly due to in-n-out service) maybe the point LE is trying to make by releasing information is that this was the last time his phone was operable-- as the texts Monday morning were never received.

Now that I think about it, other texts from friends (in Bayfield or CS) could have been sent to Dylan's phone Sunday night that he never received. For all we know, LE could be aware that another of Dylan's friends sent him a message at say 10:15pm that night, but Dylan's phone was dead/inoperable/unable to receive the text by that time.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Are we sure that LE is saying that this was an outgoing text from Dylan's "electronic device"?

I'm still wondering if it's his friend's 9:27 pm text being received. After that, the phone may have gone dead for some reason. Thus the additional texts Monday morning were not received.

So your saying that the LE timeline is based on Dylan's phone having a powered battery at 9:37 to receive the 9:27 text and the battery later went dead and that's why there is no phone records of the texts incoming in the morning? Maybe I'm getting this wrong.

 

[Janeumayer]

Good point and I think you are right. So how did LE track it? ty

The modem keeps a log of every device that connects to it. So if DYlan was connected to his Dad's wi-fi, the ipod would show up.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I think if this last text really has no bearing on the case, then LE would have released more info about it. That leads me to believe that they are releasing the info b/c they know it will let the perp know about it - and let the perp stew over that and feel the pressure. Or it included information that they don't want anyone to know that they have yet. In other words, something that may contradict what any POIs may have been saying, etc.

I think they released it to let a possible perp know that they know about it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

The modem keeps a log of every device that connects to it. So if DYlan was connected to his Dad's wi-fi, the ipod would show up.

How can someone access this modem log?

 

[Tennlyn]

So your saying that the LE timeline is based on Dylan's phone having a powered battery at 9:37 to receive the 9:27 text and the battery later went dead and that's why there is no phone records of the texts incoming in the morning? Maybe I'm getting this wrong.

That's what I'm wondering, yes. The language in LE's press release is somewhat ambiguous to me. Communication could be either incoming or outgoing. I wish LE would have just said "sent" or "received". For that matter, I wish they'd have said "cellphone" if that's what was used. :moo: