CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #28

[jjenny]

could it also mean that the device was receiving a text?

Would LE be able to tell if cell phone received a message without having a cell phone itself?

 

[scorekeeper]

Would LE be able to tell if cell phone received a message without having a cell phone itself?

I don't have a clue.....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[The Cheese]

could it also mean that the device was receiving a text?

I can't interpret it as received. It doesn't make sense to me. What I posted is what I'm going with, because that's what does make sense to me. That's all we can do, right? Study things in these cases, and go with what makes sense to us as individuals.

 

[jjenny]

This is such a frustrating case. And LE sure doesn't help by releasing these messages which are like a riddle. I don't think keeping quiet got them far.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

But Dylan didn't have an ipad, and from my understanding, his ipod wasn't an ipod touch. So what would he be using to send the text?

If you have a link showing what kind of ipod or ipad Dylan owns that would be appreciated.

 

[scorekeeper]

I think that you may be right. We'll see how the protest goes tomorrow.

If things go bad at the protest, I have a feeling that any mediated discussions will be postponed.

BBM

Something/someone else MR can blame for not doing something.

I don't really see him arranging for the mediation. I'm sure his attorney will advise against.

But strange things abound in Dylan's disappearance....

 

[jjenny]

If you have a link showing what kind of ipod or ipad Dylan owns that would be appreciated.

I don't. But it is my understanding that ipod touch is very expensive. And mother was going to by him a smart phone. And nobody described Dylan as texting using his ipod. Mother described him as using his flip phone to text until the flip phone was smoking. Why wouldn't he use his ipod touch if he had one?

 

[scorekeeper]

gonna try to spend some time tomorrow morning on the scanner thread

nite all!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I don't. But it is my understanding that ipod touch is very expensive. And mother was going to by him a smart phone. And nobody described Dylan as texting using his ipod.

So if you give a kid a ipod touch they don't need a smartphone because it does all of the same things. Is that how it works?

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I don't. But it is my understanding that ipod touch is very expensive. And mother was going to by him a smart phone. And nobody described Dylan as texting using his ipod. Mother described him as using his flip phone to text until the flip phone was smoking. Why wouldn't he use his ipod touch if he had one?

over here many kids have ipod touch's long before they get a smart phone and even when they get a smartphone they still use the ipod touch, as using a smartphone for games and music etc drains the battery quickly.

 

[jjenny]

So if you give a kid a ipod touch they don't need a smartphone because it does all of the same things. Is that how it works?

OK. Let's say he had an ipod touch in addition to his cell phone. So why wasn't he communicating in the morning with his friends? If he had an ipod touch, then even if his cell phone broke, he could have used his ipod touch to communicate.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

BBM

Something/someone else MR can blame for not doing something.

I don't really see him arranging for the mediation. I'm sure his attorney will advise against.

But strange things abound in Dylan's disappearance....

It appears to me that he agreed in public to mediation as a possible solution to a communication problem with his ex wife.

I think that the ball is in her court now.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

worth thinking about?

what if MR had taken Dylans phone off him and then sent a text pretending it was from Dylan, but he didn't want LE to find that text on his phone or his computer so used an ipod as he didn't think LE would search through that?

the message could have been to Dylans friend R or what if it was to someone that MR had passed Dylan to?

 

[jjenny]

If message was to Dylan's friend R then we would know it, since R showed us the messages he got from Dylan. So it wasn't.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

OK. Let's say he had an ipod touch in addition to his cell phone. So why wasn't he communicating in the morning with his friends? If he had an ipod touch, then even if his cell phone broke, he could have used his ipod touch to communicate.

Dylan didn't communicate with any of his friends on the morning of November 19th because something prevented him from doing so. I don't know when this something happened. Did it happen before Mark left the house or after? I don't know and I haven't seen any evidence to help me understand when or how Dylan was taken.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

If message was to Dylan's friend R then we would know it, since R showed us the messages he got from Dylan. So it wasn't.

I think it's possible that we wouldn't know, we saw a few messages only, not the full conversation that began before Dylan left Colorado Springs, so IMO its not impossible that we haven't been shown the last message for a reason.

 

[catswhiskers]

over here many kids have ipod touch's long before they get a smart phone and even when they get a smartphone they still use the ipod touch, as using a smartphone for games and music etc drains the battery quickly.

I agree - my kids have both each had an ipod touch for years, and they have smartphones as well. They tend to only use the phones as phones - and still prefer their ipods for music, games etc. I have an ipad, and none of us have ever even considered using any of our i-gadgets for texting. And yes to the draining batteries too - the ipod just stays charged longer and I believe has more available memory. They are primarily a cool storage device for music, clips, games etc.

FWIW... ipods don't have 3g connection - yet. To use the internet on an ipod you have to have access to an existing home or hotspot wireless connection.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I don't understand why people are so sure it wasn't his cell phone. jmo

We may actually kinda agree for once on this case, mck!..but probably for different reasons..lol.

As I too have seen nothing indicating that this 9:37pm text was of any other device but that of his cell phone..

Because his mother, who owns the phone, has stated several times that the last communication from his phone was 8pm. She has access to the provider records. If there was a text sent at 9:37pm from his phone she would obviously know this.

Above BBM in RED for emphasis on key words..
I see it slightly different, tho, understand others are looking at it from a view that this info is actually new, additional, and different content than what we knew prior to this media release..

Regarding mom's statements about her seeing Dylan's cell records.. her words IMO have the exact same meaning and context as they did the day she originally said them. Nothing that's newly released in any way alters or changes or gives new meaning to Elaine's statements about her son's cell records..

She has been open with her having seen the records herself.. she has been open about, and has not changed or altered that her son ceased all outgoing communication a little after 8pm, Sunday, 11/18.. this has not changed.. nor imo does this now have different meaning or context implying that Elaine had zero knowledge of the incoming texts occurring well after DYLAN'S LAST OUTGOING COMMUNICATION.

RN released his cell phone screen with the times and texts of he and Dylan's last exchanged text messages.. from RN cell screen we have all known that RN sent Dylan a text at 9:27pm according to when the text officially left and was sent from his iPhone..

That info has been known.. never did that in any way whatsoever make Elaine's statements about Dylan's cell records any different at all.. no new meaning whatsoever as Elaine said the records show her son last communicating FROM his cell(outgoing) was a little after eight.. THAT REMAINED THE SAME AND CORRELATES WITH RN'S HAVING SENT A TEXT TO DYLAN AT 9:27PM..

now here we are today, present tense and IMO NOTHING HAS CHANGED. ER's stating her sons last communicating was a lil after 8pm, that remained the same regardless of the info that RN sent a text at 9:27pm, Dylan still last communicated a lil after 8pm..

Now a 9:37pm text has been reported that has in no way whatsoever discredited, nor contradicted in any way what ER's statement was all along her son last communicated a lil after 8pm. That does NOT change when adding Ryan's text sent at 9:27.. nor does it change one iota when adding in this latest reported text at 9:37..IMO THE FACT REMAINS THE SAME AND HAS NOT BEEN CONTRADICTED, NOR IN ANY WAY CHANGED MEANING FROM WHAT ER SAID ORIGINALLY...

HER SON HAS NOT COMMUNICATED FROM HIS CELL PHONE SINCE A LIL AFTER 8PM 11/18..

I realize that others are putting additional meaning to this info and to each their own..but in sticking to what's been said and reported THERE IS NOTHING WHATSOEVER INDICATING THAT DYLAN REDWINE AT ANY POINT WELL AFTER THE ORIGINAL TIME OF A LIL AFTER 8PM, THAT HE WAS COMMUNICATING, MORE SPECIFIC HE HAD OUTGOING COMMUNICATION FROM HIS CELL PHONE.

ER'S words are the same, have the same meaning, and are in no way contradicted, nor is there new information indicating that ER didn't see these incoming text messages to her sons phone in the 9 o'clock hour on the cell records that she saw, herself early on..

To each their own, but in looking at these NON fluid pieces of information nothing has changed or contradicted mom's stating that her son's cell records show that her son's last outgoing communication was a lil after 8pm 11/18.

**my apologies for the redundance too tired to go in and edit out my repetitive nature:crazy: **

 

[jjenny]

I think it's possible that we wouldn't know, we saw a few messages only, not the full conversation that began before Dylan left Colorado Springs, so IMO its not impossible that we haven't been shown the last message for a reason.

We saw his messages of the conversation after Dylan arrived. There was no message at 9:37 pm.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

We saw his messages of the conversation after Dylan arrived. There was no message at 9:37 pm.

I think that the 9:37 PM text message was to someone other than R. MOO.