CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #28

[Confusion]

We saw his messages of the conversation after Dylan arrived. There was no message at 9:37 pm.

Not to RN anyway.

 

[yupikgirl]

I'm sure I've said this in past threads so sorry if its a repeat and others have said it to. I think what's normal to one person isn't to another. I know we all know this, but it seems like we forget sometimes. This is totally random and not aimed at any post, but our family texts with our iPods and iPads all the time. iMessage was intended for this. My kids had their iPod touches long before they had smartphones. Some of their friends still only have the iPod touch so iMessage is used often. Anyway definitely not posted to be argumentative to anyone else posting the opposite...just saying when it comes to texting, smartphones, iPhones, iPods, iPads everyone is different. We use ours all the time.

Eta if you have an iPhone and you text someone else who has an iPhone it goes through either as an iMessage or a regular text. If you are using wifi it will send as an iMessage and as a text if you are using your 3G. The phone switches itself to conserve data. At least mine does (Verizon). So that would explain what shows up as a text on a bill.

 

[Salem]

OK. Let's say he had an ipod touch in addition to his cell phone. So why wasn't he communicating in the morning with his friends? If he had an ipod touch, then even if his cell phone broke, he could have used his ipod touch to communicate.

I think this is a very good question. Why wasn't he? If you go with the theory that his phone died and he didn't charge for some reason, then this last message indicates he had other sources for texting. So... it raises my hinky meter even more - why wasn't he texting in the morning, if he had acces to something that would allow him too?

I thought it was plausible that his phone died and either he forgot to charge it, or it wouldn't hold a charge for some reason, because he apparently was using it alot. But it becomes a different scenario if he could text with other devices.

Man.... this case gets curiouser and curiouser......

Salem

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I'm sure I've said this in past threads so sorry if its a repeat and others have said it to. I think what's normal to one person isn't to another. I know we all know this, but it seems like we forget sometimes. This is totally random and not aimed at any post, but our family texts with our iPods and iPads all the time. iMessage was intended for this. My kids had their iPod touches long before they had smartphones. Some of their friends still only have the iPod touch so iMessage is used often. Anyway definitely not posted to be argumentative to anyone else posting the opposite...just saying when it comes to texting, smartphones, iPhones, iPods, iPads everyone is different. We use ours all the time.

Ok. Whats your point?

 

[Wild@Heart]

Signs are made and my car has a full tank of gas. Heading off to the Rally!!! GO TEAM DYLAN

 

[yupikgirl]

I think this is a very good question. Why wasn't he? If you go with the theory that his phone died and he didn't charge for some reason, then this last message indicates he had other sources for texting. So... it raises my hinky meter even more - why wasn't he texting in the morning, if he had acces to something that would allow him too?

I thought it was plausible that his phone died and either he forgot to charge it, or it wouldn't hold a charge for some reason, because he apparently was using it alot. But it becomes a different scenario if he could text with other devices.

Man.... this case gets curiouser and curiouser......

Salem

I agree. I guess we should try to find out if it was an iPod touch....otherwise all this discussion about texting with the touch doesn't matter.

 

[catswhiskers]

I've often wondered about Dylan's texts to others on Sunday. Even if only because we have heard how much he was looking forward to catching up with all his friends in Bayfield, it does seem a bit odd to me that he would have only had conversations with one friend during the course of the day.
:moo:

 

[yupikgirl]

Ok. Whats your point?

My point was that someone on WS posting they never ever use their iPads to text and would use their phone doesn't mean everyone else does the same. iPads, iPhones, iPod touches have iMessage which is free texting and something a lot of people would use. In my house its especially used with the kids.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I agree. I guess we should try to find out if it was an iPod touch....otherwise all this discussion about texting with the touch doesn't matter.

If we know for a fact that Dylan had an IPod touch would that mean that the "last text" was from the iPod?

 

[Confusion]

Signs are made and my car has a full tank of gas. Heading off to the Rally!!! GO TEAM DYLAN

Stay warm.

 

[SmoothOperator]

strictly moo of course, but I believe the 9:37pm info that's been recently stated as the LAST ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION IS THE VERY LAST TIME THIS YOUNG MAN'S PHONE EVER "ELECTRONICALLY COMMUNICATED"..ITS VERY LAST PING AND LAST TRACE OR BLIP OF THIS ELECTRONIC DEVICE(his cell phone)

moo it remains that the last outgoing communication via text was a little after 8pm..

and that the info regarding their pinpointing 9:37pm of Sunday, November 18, 2012 is the last trace via ping that Dylan Redwine's phone has ever made, period.. permanently to no longer exist after 9:37pm, Sunday, November 18, 2012..

and completes the timeline of the cell phones existence.

 

[MissSunshine]

I have a question. When I get my cell bill, it doesn't show me times for text messages, it only tells me the amount of texts sent. Is that just my cell provider or do other providers show the time? Can you get a more in depth statement from the provider showing time and what the text that were sent are?

Even if this doesn't apply to Dylan, it will be good to know so I can check up on the my kids if I want to know who and what they are texting. TIA

 

[Wild@Heart]

Stay warm.

Colorado Girls always stay warm!:Banane49:

 

[Confusion]

I think this is a very good question. Why wasn't he? If you go with the theory that his phone died and he didn't charge for some reason, then this last message indicates he had other sources for texting. So... it raises my hinky meter even more - why wasn't he texting in the morning, if he had acces to something that would allow him too?

I thought it was plausible that his phone died and either he forgot to charge it, or it wouldn't hold a charge for some reason, because he apparently was using it alot. But it becomes a different scenario if he could text with other devices.

Man.... this case gets curiouser and curiouser......

Salem

One of my 1001 different theories is that he was texting someone making arrangements to meet near the house the next morning - not at the house so they didn't have to worry about someone driving by and seeing the car there. If he told the person what time MR was leaving, and when he expected to be back, it would be easy enough to set up a time to meet somewhere between the two times. If told not to talk to anyone else until after they met, it could explain why he never contacted anyone. MOO

 

[catswhiskers]

I'm sure I've said this in past threads so sorry if its a repeat and others have said it to. I think what's normal to one person isn't to another. I know we all know this, but it seems like we forget sometimes. This is totally random and not aimed at any post, but our family texts with our iPods and iPads all the time. iMessage was intended for this. My kids had their iPod touches long before they had smartphones. Some of their friends still only have the iPod touch so iMessage is used often. Anyway definitely not posted to be argumentative to anyone else posting the opposite...just saying when it comes to texting, smartphones, iPhones, iPods, iPads everyone is different. We use ours all the time.

Eta if you have an iPhone and you text someone else who has an iPhone it goes through either as an iMessage or a regular text. If you are using wifi it will send as an iMessage and as a text if you are using your 3G. The phone switches itself to conserve data. At least mine does (Verizon). So that would explain what shows up as a text on a bill.

No problems yupikgirl I feel the same way often when people post about what boys Dylan's age are supposed to do or not. I have two boys around the same age myself and am often thinking that mine must just be rather irregular, as their behaviour usually doesn't fit with what others say here.

The texting facility surprises me as I don't know that I had even heard of it until this case, and I do consider everyone my household to be pretty tech savvy. I guess that unless I really needed it, it's possibly an app (is it an app?) I wouldn't go looking for.
:moo:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

One of my 1001 different theories is that he was texting someone making arrangements to meet near the house the next morning - not at the house so they didn't have to worry about someone driving by and seeing the car there. If he told the person what time MR was leaving, and when he expected to be back, it would be easy enough to set up a time to meet somewhere between the two times. If told not to talk to anyone else until after they met, it could explain why he never contacted anyone. MOO

A very good theory Confusion. It fits with what we know as far as I can tell.

 

[cluciano63]

No one is right or wrong here. Everyone is just saying things that occur to them, as either odd or not odd. I appreciate WS for its generally civil tone.

 

[Money Girl]

One of my 1001 different theories is that he was texting someone making arrangements to meet near the house the next morning - not at the house so they didn't have to worry about someone driving by and seeing the car there. If he told the person what time MR was leaving, and when he expected to be back, it would be easy enough to set up a time to meet somewhere between the two times. If told not to talk to anyone else until after they met, it could explain why he never contacted anyone. MOO

Excellent theory.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

We saw his messages of the conversation after Dylan arrived. There was no message at 9:37 pm.

were there pics of the text messages, I only remember seeing the chronology written in articles

 

[aust amateur slueth]

One of my 1001 different theories is that he was texting someone making arrangements to meet near the house the next morning - not at the house so they didn't have to worry about someone driving by and seeing the car there. If he told the person what time MR was leaving, and when he expected to be back, it would be easy enough to set up a time to meet somewhere between the two times. If told not to talk to anyone else until after they met, it could explain why he never contacted anyone. MOO

Dylan was supposed to be getting dropped off in bayfield at 6.30am monday morning and MR didn't leave until 7.30am so wouldn't that have thrown a spanner into any plan?