CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

[Cardinal47]

And why's this ???
'Part of your post got snipped..kindle problems..sorry'

Most communities come together when a child is missing but Mark has very little support and I have to conclude there must be a reason for this .

As do I! Three grown sons don't even like him.

Something is very wrong with this man and my heart goes out to Elaine and Cory in trying to get answers from this father who may have spent the last few hours of Dylan's life with him.

With the way he treats his ex families perhaps this is why he has no village!

 

[Cardinal47]

would the reason for that be because he has hidden himself away?

If he hadn't behaved the way he has he would have the village just as much behind him, his behaviour is the reason the village is not behind him.

His behavior in all things for many, many years! My point exactly!

 

[asyousay]

I don't want to believe a father is capable of hurting there child but his story does not add up .

How can he be so obsessed about himself when his 13 year old son is missing ?!

He seems to have a temper when pushed and if sleeping with a friend/neighbour on a lawn in front of your wife and child is not about revenge then I don't know what else it comes under .

So his questionable past does raise a red flag in my eyes .


ETA - none of us know Mark or want him to be involved and there is no hidden agenda but we have questions and justifiably so :cow:

 

[azgrandma]

I don't want to believe a father is capable of hurting there child but his story does not add up .

How can he be so obsessed about himself when his 13 year old son is missing ?!

He seems to have a temper when pushed and if sleeping with a friend/neighbour on a lawn in front of your wife and child is not about revenge then I don't know what else it comes under .

So his questionable past does raise a red flag in my eyes .


ETA - none of us know Mark or want him to be involved and there is no hidden agenda but we have questions and justifiably so :cow:

BBM - I agree with you, I would hate to believe that any parent could harm their child, sadly that is something we have all come to know all too well. Sucks, I could not imagine ever harming my children, emotionally or physically and if I should hurt their feelings on accident it just destroys me. I believe that most parents are like this.

MR has an opinion of himself that only he can match. It bothers me that HE is HIS only concern.

When I look at any one action/non-action of MR, in and of itself it can be explained away.

• A drunken mis-guided moment caused him to have a lapse in judgment and have intimate relations with a neighbor/friend on the front lawn.
• Fear of being yelled at by his ex caused him to not communicate.
• Busy speaking with LE caused him to have no communication.
• Emotional state of mind caused him to stay away from the public.
• ER caused CR to dislike MR.

It's the totality of the actions/non-actions that cause concern. It's that totality of actions/non-actions that make people look in his direction. Excuses are like a**holes, everybody has one, some just stink worse than others.

 

[cfreyja23]

The senior Redwine said there is a “history” with Cory, but he said he thinks his son’s anger toward him is reflective of his mother’s hatred toward Mark.


Despite that latter remark, Redwine said, “I don’t fault her for finding someone to blame.”


Redwine also said that all the online speculation wasn’t helping the situation.


“There are too many people sitting at the computer trying to play Nancy Drew and Nancy Grace,” he said. “It’s not bringing us closer to finding Dylan.”


http://durangoherald.com/article/20130126/NEWS01/130129704/Demonstrators-call-out-Mark-Redwine--

Hmm, well, what would be have us do? Does he want all of us to just forget? Is he asking us to come search with him? What has he done other than put up flyers. You know, if my child was missing, Id be grateful for any attention brought to the case.

 

[cluciano63]

I think CR, etc. just need to be able to get past MR in their minds, and he won't help them do that. LE will carry on investigating who and whatever, regardless.

Of course MR does not have to do anything to please his son or his ex, if indeed he is still working with LE, which to me, is unknown at this time. He can suit himself, as he appears to be doing. But he shouldn't surprised that they are upset and vocal at what they see his uncaring behavior.

 

[SCHMAE]

If ER were constantly belittling and complaining to her kids about MR and what a lowlife etc he was and the kids can see , with their own eyes, who he really is and he was none of the things ER said he was but instead was a kind hearted easy going, even tempered saint of a father, wouldn't the kids just discount ER"s words of him and shrug it off and still enjoy a relationship with their dad? My point is MR says basically the only reason CRs upset with him is ER has turned him against his dad. But if you're a great dad , no one can turn your kids against you with language , especially if it contradicts what you can see with your own eyes. Right?

 

[Money Girl]

LOTS of people searched. Go back to page #1 on this thread. I was posting as to what was being done and when during that whole time. Mark was there too, but that JMO and I was there too. Keys were given to open "seasonal" houses, etc. Doors were knocked on, etc. Barns were searched, etc. The few private lands were searched. We did all that. MR was there too.

JMO <modsnip>

Thank you, Ransom.

 

[Money Girl]

imhoo the adversarial family relationship has nothing to do with the topic at hand and only clouds it.

It, from the start, has caused a divide.

Mark Redwine still seems to be communicating with LE and they are the ones investigating this case and the ones that need to be communicated with. Nothing has ever been said from them that he is not communicating.

The man has a flier on his door.

So what does that mean? He has a flier on his door. That is it.

By "helping" if that means contributing to the sites that are pointing fingers at him.. my gosh what would he gain by going there? I have personally read the vitriol there. If I were his lawyer or even his friend I would tell him to stay away from it and just work with LE. I hope he is doing just that.

I have no opinion as to who could be involved or what happened.. all that matters is Dylan being found at this point. The people that need to talk to this man are law enforcement and investigators. If he continues to do that and work with them.. he is doing something to help this investigation. He may not be out waving signs or going on tv but he is talking to the people he needs to talk to. (law enforecement)

They have never said that he has stopped or refused to cooperate.

Well Said!

 

[cluciano63]

I also think that for their part, ER and CR need to believe that MR has some knowledge he has not shared, or else it becomes much worse for Dylan.

 

[azgrandma]

If ER were constantly belittling and complaining to her kids about MR and what a lowlife etc he was and the kids can see , with their own eyes, who he really is and he was none of the things ER said he was but instead was a kind hearted easy going, even tempered saint of a father, wouldn't the kids just discount ER"s words of him and shrug it off and still enjoy a relationship with their dad? My point is MR says basically the only reason CRs upset with him is ER has turned him against his dad. But if you're a great dad , no one can turn your kids against you with language , especially if it contradicts what you can see with your own eyes. Right?

Correct, MR once said that he didn't want the kids to call anyone else dad, I told him had to be one and they wouldn't.
I have never worried about my children calling anyone else mom.

IMO if you bad mouth the other parent, it hurts you more than anyone because your children will discover the truth on their own in their own time. If you've spent years bad mouthing them, and it isn't so, they will disrespect you for it.

 

[Eileen730]

If I sent my son on a court appointed visit to see his father and My son went missing Id expect answers and would park myself at the end of his driveway every day and every night till I got the answers I needed from him. And If My ex wouldnt give me any answers then Id have to suspect the worst and imagine he harmed our son.I would not rest till he said what hes done...Id become his worst nightmare because he became mine.

 

[rebeccaeee]

Woke up this morning with two new thoughts, as if anything can be considered new here...

Wonder where MR spent the weekend and if LE was interested in that info as well? He has no village and apparently needs to leave town for sanctuary. Where might that sanctuary be?

If MR was NOT Dylan's father, i.e. a sitter or some such, would this figure be under more or less scrutiny? Seems that those on the fence about MR feel the family dynamics are getting in the way of the case and those who would convict MR are blaming him for being a lousy father/husband. So say MR was not in any way related to the fam except as an employee and look at the behavior. What would we be saying about him then?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

:floorlaugh:
Her nanny loves her too much to not want to babysit! LOL I will catch up trust me! :rocker:

Your little precious one is blessed to have a loving momma and nanny!

:baby:

:grouphug:

 

[MissJ]

CR and ER are the only ones getting attention to this case. If they sat back and waited to be invited there would be no attention paid.

 

[MissJ]

Woke up this morning with two new thoughts, as if anything can be considered new here...

Wonder where MR spent the weekend and if LE was interested in that info as well? He has no village and apparently needs to leave town for sanctuary. Where might that sanctuary be?

If MR was NOT Dylan's father, i.e. a sitter or some such, would this figure be under more or less scrutiny? Seems that those on the fence about MR feel the family dynamics are getting in the way of the case and those who would convict MR are blaming him for being a lousy father/husband. So say MR was not in any way related to the fam except as an employee and look at the behavior. What would we be saying about him then?

Good point.:what:

 

[Eileen730]

would the reason for that be because he has hidden himself away?

his behaviour is the reason the village is not behind him and he can't blame his behaviour on anyone but himself.

Or is it this village is well aware of what kind of man Mark Redwine is?

 

[ThePhantom]

Bearing in mind that none of us has a personal investment in being right or wrong about Mark Redwine, I think doing any kind of character assination on him isn't going to move our sleuthing forward. We have established that some of us can't stand the guy for what he may have done. But that and a cup of coffee isn't going to do anything (in my opinion) except foment discord here, and definitely not going to get to the bottom of this. The guy could be (or might not be) guilty as hell, but we're going to have to move past the (in my opinion only) constant denigration in order to (hopefully) find answers.

 

[mijamawi]

On the FMDR in posts by others, there's a post by a LS mentioning MR's truck driving job, and a reply by a CW. It clears up a little about MR's job.

 

[mijamawi]

Bearing in mind that none of us has a personal investment in being right or wrong about Mark Redwine, I think doing any kind of character assination on him isn't going to move our sleuthing forward. We have established that some of us can't stand the guy for what he may have done. But that and a cup of coffee isn't going to do anything (in my opinion) except foment discord here, and definitely not going to get to the bottom of this. The guy could be (or might not be) guilty as hell, but we're going to have to move past the (in my opinion only) constant denigration in order to (hopefully) find answers.

Agreed.