CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

[TxLady2]

I don't agree. MR NEEDS to talk to LE and LE has said he has and IS cooperating. Only thing that matters is finding Dylan Redwine.

What he ate or if he brushed his teeth, took a shower is not important, IMO. FINDING Dylan is important. Dylan IS the only thing important.
JMO . LE NEED to find Dylan and they will. IMO. Good people in La Plata County are on this case along with the FBI and the CBI and others. I have faith. I continue to have faith.

I may stand alone, but I stand with LPLE and the FBI/CBI.

I agree with you 100%!
I am not bashing anyone here, but AFAIK, there is no rule on WS that says I have to believe every word one person says and discount every word that the other one says.
She says he won't communicate with her and answer her questions. He says he has answered every text she sends, but she refuses to pick up the phone and talk to him. Who is telling the truth?
Maybe he is just not able to give her the answers she wants, because he doesn't know. When she demands to know where Dylan is, he can't tell her because he has no more idea than she does.
Someone upthread said it's a he said/she said thing, and that seems to be pretty accurate.

 

[PaulR]

I came back to see if any developments happened, but it seems like this thread is still no longer about Dylan but about MR.

Rather sad IMHO.

 

[Eileen730]

I came back to see if any developments happened, but it seems like this thread is still no longer about Dylan but about MR.

Rather sad IMHO.

I think MR is the key to finding Dylan!
so yes its about MR because we know where MR is but we dont know where Dylan is.

All we can say about Dylan is HE IS MISSING!

 

[Eileen730]

I think MR should be talking to his ex wife !
JMO

I dont understand why hes not!

 

[Ronald99]

Why couldn't the Father be their yesterday and allow the people that showed up also see he's involved and wants Dylan located and back home safe. So if he had stayed home and walked outside to display support, and a few people decided to use angry words towards him, The Father could've walked back inside, and allowed the actions of others to be the Reason,

Yet he didn't even allow that to happen, he had advance notice of this planned rally of support and answers, and the Father decided to cause even more Doulbt, his lack of making an appearance, ( and this is my view of him ) a person that doesn't care or wants to be fully involved in locating or helping to locate Dylan.

The Father has in my opioin displayed the minimum amount of helping, or offering to fully open up with his Family and Law Enforcement, To have your 21 y/o son organize a support Rally at your Properity and decide to hide so you're not involved in a positive way displays volumes, the type of person this Father actually is.

<modsnip> He had plenty of time the night before to place Dylan and all his personal items he brought with him, in a location, or locations only known to him.
That last text message of Dylan's was not compleate and Dylan's one word answers to his friend at best displayed something was wrong, The cell towers in the area of Walmart and the Fathers house will display accurate times their cell phone location was pinged, and what time they most likely arrived at the Fathers house,or area near house.

I'm praying more Public Support and Pressure will get answers, or at least further display the Fathers true actions or lack of, in finding closure in locating Dylan, if there was any part of me that was undecided concerning the Father, after his Disappearing act yesterday, that fully convinced me he's responsible, and only Law Enforcement can apply the needed pressure in locating the answers he's controlling concerning Dylan's Disappearance.

 

[Tennlyn]

I cannot sleep. I have gotten back up out of bed to post this. While I do not believe Mark Redwine had anything to do with the disappearance of his son I only feel sadness for Elaine. I cannot imagine the losss and total helplessnes she must feel. I hope that something comes to light in the following days. I hope that she and MR can come to some kind of a place where they can put thieir animosity aside and agree that this is not about them but is about their son. Please wok together work together and for the love of Dylan resolve this. jmo

I often lay awake at night thinking about this case. Wondering what if...what if MR just can't clear himself with LE, and yet he is innocent. What if someone did actually snatch Dylan.

By day, I can't get past Sunday night. I'm still waiting for LE to confirm Dylan made it to Dad's. But at night when I can't sleep, the other possibilities haunt me.

Where are you, Dylan? lease:

 

[rebeccaeee]

So let's talk about Dylan today. I'm a big fan of Gavin DeBecker's "Protecting the Gift" book which has a great chapter about teaching children how to defend themselves from predators, particularly stranger danger types and all too friendly coaches.

Anyone think, from what we know of Dylan, that he would be the type to go along with someone easily or not? I'm bugged a bit by a comment from the early days about how Dylan is pretty good at getting what he wants.

And has anyone thought at all about teachers/coaches those known to Dylan who would have known he moved away but was visiting over the holiday week?

Just throwing it out there. Tired of arguing about MR. I think we could all make a list of who stands where here and it isn't productive. I don't want to tune out so today's mental exercise is to force myself in another direction.

 

[Eileen730]

Obviously hes only talking to LE.
I think if they believed him they would have ruled him out.

Is there any parent here on this board that would be ok with not getting info from your childs dad that went missing while in his care? Wouldnt you want to know things like did he get a shower what was he doing was he on the phone who was he talking to where did the 2 of you go that night?

I saw in this tv show where someone was being investigated for something and this FBI
guy was questioning him and he asked him to tell him where he was and what he did that day but he had to it in reverse order. Last thing first. the guy couldnt make up a story going backwards which I thought was brilliant.

 

[asyousay]

I think kids are more aware of stranger danger than ever before and I do not see Dylan willingly going off with a stranger . At the end of the day he knew his dad would be back to pick him up at 11:30am and if I am to believe Mark's story then Dylan was in absoluty no rush to see R that morning or he would of woken up .So with a lift promised I think he naturally would of waited for his ride :cow:

 

[Tennlyn]

I think kids are more aware of stranger danger than ever before and I do not see Dylan willingly going off with a stranger . At the end of the day he knew his dad would be back to pick him up at 11:30am and if I am to believe Mark's story then Dylan was in absoluty no rush to see R that morning or he would of woken up .So with a lift promised I think he naturally would of waited for his ride :cow:

Still...an acquaintance is possible. What if the neighbor of one of his friends drove past and offered him a ride? Sad to say, but even as much as I warned my own son against such things, he'd still probably be stupid and go.

I remember one day when my son was 15 or so, 2 high school girls came to my door after dropping him off. They wanted to introduce themselves to me. It was extremely thoughtful of them, and extremely infuriating that my son hadn't introduced me BEFORE he started getting rides with them.

 

[asyousay]

Still...an acquaintance is possible. What if the neighbor of one of his friends drove past and offered him a ride? Sad to say, but even as much as I warned my own son against such things, he'd still probably be stupid and go.

I remember one day when my son was 15 or so, 2 high school girls came to my door after dropping him off. They wanted to introduce themselves to me. It was extremely thoughtful of them, and extremely infuriating that my son hadn't introduced me BEFORE he started getting rides with them.

That's a good point but I do wonder how many real friends Mark has and how many would go to the house without prior warning to Mark .


It sounds like that house is at the end of nowhere so its not somewhere you would randomly just pop to on the off chance that Dylan may be .


Also a question for people who think it may be somebody who knew Mark , why now?

Dylan lived there for years and anybody close to Mark would of had a lot more access back then when he was a child and easier to snatch.

 

[SCHMAE]

So let's talk about Dylan today. I'm a big fan of Gavin DeBecker's "Protecting the Gift" book which has a great chapter about teaching children how to defend themselves from predators, particularly stranger danger types and all too friendly coaches.

Anyone think, from what we know of Dylan, that he would be the type to go along with someone easily or not? I'm bugged a bit by a comment from the early days about how Dylan is pretty good at getting what he wants.

And has anyone thought at all about teachers/coaches those known to Dylan who would have known he moved away but was visiting over the holiday week?

Just throwing it out there. Tired of arguing about MR. I think we could all make a list of who stands where here and it isn't productive. I don't want to tune out so today's mental exercise is to force myself in another direction.

That is a great book ! I refer to it often when talking to friends. I would think Dylan would be smart enough to not accept a ride from a stranger, but a local that he knew , who knows? There are lurking, hidden predators everywhere in today's society. I thought about the mailman, the barber, the guy at the ice cream shop, anyone who the kids in town KNEW of but maybe didn't know intimately like they would a teacher or a friends' family member. You just never do know. Predators I guess get the name because they prey on certain groups, children, women, the weak, etc. But I also think their name indicates sneaky, hidden and great skill. If you watch the wild animal shows and see the predators lurking behind a rock and tall grass and the little gazelle just munching on his grass, completely unaware that his time is almost up, that to me says predator even in the human sense.
How many times have we heard of a case where a child was riding their bike back home through a short cut from a friend's house or school?How would a predator possibly know they were on that path? They did not! The predator just knows if he's patient and remains out of view, a victim will come along sooner or later. It might take hours and it might take days or weeks, but they are patient and also seem to be lucky as spit most of the time.

 

[SCHMAE]

Still...an acquaintance is possible. What if the neighbor of one of his friends drove past and offered him a ride? Sad to say, but even as much as I warned my own son against such things, he'd still probably be stupid and go.

I remember one day when my son was 15 or so, 2 high school girls came to my door after dropping him off. They wanted to introduce themselves to me. It was extremely thoughtful of them, and extremely infuriating that my son hadn't introduced me BEFORE he started getting rides with them.

You're right and especially at that age and male, Dylan probably didn't consider any danger if there was a ride and even if he did consider any danger, his ego and hormones would tell him ( as any teen boy ) " I can fight off anyone " . Sadly the youngsters far over exaggerate their own ability to fight off danger.

 

[jjenny]

While he could have accepted a ride from someone, what evidence is there that he was actually in a position to be able to do so?
Communications stopped the previous day.
He was eager to see his friend yet didn't respond to any of the texts, and didn't try to contact him in the morning. If he overslept, presumably the first thing he would have done is to contact his friend and let him know that. He would have tried to make new plans on where/when to meet his friend. Why would he just decide to go get a ride, when he didn't even try to contact his friend to figure out where his friend would be. Previous day he seemed concern with details on how he and his friend were going to meet, whether grandma would be o'key with it, where he would be able to get in. Now the next day he is just going to go get a ride, not even knowing where his friend was going to be?

 

[asyousay]

While he could have accepted a ride from someone, what evidence is there that he was actually in a position to be able to do so?
Communications stopped the previous day.
He was eager to see his friend yet didn't respond to any of the texts, and didn't try to contact him in the morning. If he overslept, presumably the first thing he would have done is to contact his friend and let him know that. He would have tried to make new plans on where/when to meet his friend. Why would he just decide to go get a ride, when he didn't even try to contact his friend to figure out where his friend would be.

True and we know Ryan did change his location .

 

[SCHMAE]

That's a good point but I do wonder how many real friends Mark has and how many would go to the house without prior warning to Mark .


It sounds like that house is at the end of nowhere so its not somewhere you would randomly just pop to on the off chance that Dylan may be .


Also a question for people who think it may be somebody who knew Mark , why now?

Dylan lived there for years and anybody close to Mark would of had a lot more access back then when he was a child and easier to snatch.

I've thought about that and have come up with this : If someone MR knew was a closet predator , or unknown SO , then perhaps that person had been watching DR . Then when he realized DR moved away with mom that person thought he missed his chance. Then he sees DR on monday morning and thinks WOW he's back, I won't let this chance slip away. Maybe in the interim, he's spoken to MR and found out DR would be here that week.

So sickening to say that , but you know those freak shows could be thinking like that.

 

[jjenny]

True and we know Ryan did change his location .

Yep. He sure appeared to have moved around.
So all of the sudden Dylan just decides to get a ride without contacting his friend first, to figure out where he is going to be?

 

[asyousay]

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I've thought about that and have come up with this : If someone MR knew was a closet predator , or unknown SO , then perhaps that person had been watching DR . Then when he realized DR moved away with mom that person thought he missed his chance. Then he sees DR on monday morning and thinks WOW he's back, I won't let this chance slip away. Maybe in the interim, he's spoken to MR and found out DR would be here that week.

So sickening to say that , but you know those freak shows could be thinking like that.

But if he had plans to meet Mark then i am sure these people would be checked out. Anybody that stopped by that house on Monday morning would be questioned ( or due to stop by ) .

Also Dylan by all accounts should not of been there that morning and he was visiting town so i just can not see a random perp getting lucky with Dylan.

He is not the only kid in town and the odds would be astronomical that a random person snatched him that morning when you take into account everything else like lack of phone contact , sleeping in that morning , taking 99% of his belongings with him when he set out .

I would believe a stranger abduction a lot more if Dylan had not cut off contact with the world the night before and had not randomly slept in when all his texts point to him being a eager beaver to see R that morning . It was important to Dylan to see R and i believe he would of got up and something stopped him.

:cow:

 

[TxJan1971]

AZGrandma, you may not know the answer to this, but do you know, or could you find out if DR had a friend or friends in Vallecito? It was mentioned that when MR realized DR was missing, he went first to DR's friend's house in Vallecito, and then drove to Bayfield friends looking for DR. My intent is NOT to sleuth any minors! If we are going to think outside the box, I'd like to see how far from MR's house that friend lived (not exact location due to "minor child" issues) - but the general area - what is around that area - could DR have walked there - how far was it - are there any businesses around there?

If this has already been asked and answered, my apologies, and if someone could then direct me to that discussion, I would appreciate it. TIA

 

[mck16]

I hope they plan to apologise on the page if that guy is totally innocent as seems a bit off just to publicly flog him . :cow:

That is what I hate about FB. jmo