CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #30

[scorekeeper]

I'm looking for answers to a few questions:

Why didn't the dogs pick up Dylan's scent in/around Dad's house?
Did Dylan make it Dad's house?
Where did Dylan's phone last ping (near Durango or near Vallecito)?
What is on the Walmart tape - what is the interaction between Dylan and Dad - what did they buy - a fishing pole?
Why didn't Dylan answer R's text Sunday and/or Monday morning?

Until LE clears Mark, I have questions about Sunday night and right now Dad is the last known person to see Dylan. So until then, Dad is very high on my radar.

It's okay for some posters to feel all their questions have been answered and for them to move onto other possibilities about Dylan's disappearance but for me, I need a little bit more information.

If Dylan was abducted by a stranger or someone he may know, then LE is leading everyone down a different path for some reason....JMO/MOO

 

[NC Analyzer]

Phone books and Internet don't have cell numbers.

So you don't believe Dylan knew anyone's phone number? Not his mom, dad, brother, at least one of his friends, (to get other friend's numbers from)? You honestly don't think anyone could be reached via another landline? Nope. I don't believe this. JMO

 

[katydid23]

I got cell service up there, along with many others.

There were several posts saying there was no service there. One of our members went on one of the official searches and said her cell got zero bars there right in MR's front yard.

 

[fedfan4life]

That's the thing, it's not clear to everyone that MR did this. Period.

I apologize, and I really do not want to be argumentative. But, the chances that this 13-year old child set off on his own, on foot, to parts unknown without communicating with ANYONE @ ANYTIME as to his intentions, even though he was at home w/access to phones and internet and the like, and who had the free time to eat cereal and watch TV, is minimal-to-nil.

It makes no rational sense...

I could wrap my head around an intruder snatching little Dylan before buying the speculation above. But, that makes no rational sense either because why would an intruder take all (or most) of thle child's belongings? Not to mention that, if there were signs of a struggle, I would hope that dad would have alerted the authorities immediately.

 

[cluciano63]

I'm sorry, I guess I don't remember anything about a bike?

i guess there was a bike in some photos of the house. I never heard it belonged to Dylan or even if it was in working order.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Just a question for all the parents of today's tech savvy teens.

If your child was ever in a situation where his phone "died", no battery, no charger/charger broken, whatever, and that child had access to a LAND LINE PHONE, A COMPUTER and possibly an Ipod, how many of you think your child is too stupid to know how to reach someone? How many of you believe your child would just go walking off somewhere...not exactly sure where he was going, but walk off somewhere? Especially, if that "somewhere" was at least 8 miles away? Are our children incompetent? NO. I don't buy that for one minute. JMO

Jumping off my own post, I cannot speak for anyone else, but IMO, most parents have taught their children how to act in an emergency situation, and this wasn't even an emergency but the same procedures would be applicable. I'm sure Dylan was probably pretty competent about phones, computers, ipods and cell phones. I certainly made sure (years ago) that my child could handle a simple situation such as this. I can't see ANY child in similar circumstances who wouldn't know how to contact someone.
JMO

 

[cat28]

you guys better knock it off in here now... this is not the "let us snark at each other until the cows come home" thread.

This is about Dylan.

You can:

1) respectfully address a post if you disagree
2) scroll past a post if you feel you cannot provide a respectful response
3) use the ignore feature if you feel you cannot even read an opinion that is not the same as your own


And ALERT a post you have a concern with vs responding.

Where is the ignore feature?

 

[Dixie811]

i guess there was a bike in some photos of the house. I never heard it belonged to Dylan or even if it was in working order.

Thanks, Clu!

 

[Confusion]

Okay. I've already given my theory on what happened on Sunday night, and I'm going to TRY to give one for Monday that doesn't violate TOS.

Whoever caused Dylan's disappearance very likely knew one, or both, of his parents (MOO) or at least in this theory they did. Because X knew that the parents had issues, and Dylan would be there, it may have seemed like a good way to prove to be a good friend to P! (parent 1). There may not have been any solid plan in place, but an idea to do it at some point during the visit. Mark may have told X about having the appointments he had that morning, and X dropped by the house about 9 or so to check on Dylan. Because he'd had more sleep by then, Dylan was already up, watching tv and eating breakfast when he heard X knock on the door.

X sees that Dylan is there alone and tells him that P1 had asked X to make sure everything was okay there because XXXXXX (not saying what or it might point a finger somewhere). Dylan tells X that he was supposed to go to Bayfield that morning, but had to wait now because he slept too late. X offers a ride, and tells him to just grab his stuff in case he spends the night. Dylan is going to call MR or leave a note, but X says, "Don't worry about it, I'll be talking to both of your parents in a while. I'll talk to them about letting you spend the night since you got such a late start."

Dylan puts the phone away because he's expecting to see his friends shortly. They get into X's vehicle and X puts his things in the back/trunk. Dylan is still a bit groggy since he hasn't been up long, and doesn't realize for a while that they're going the wrong way. When he does ask about it, X just says they have to stop somewhere quick and then they'll be on their way.

I haven't quite decided on the rest - was there someone else there that helped? Was it X's home or somewhere else they stopped? Was Dylan given some excuse that he believed at first so he stayed willingly in the beginning? Should the Lone Ranger sell his horse and join the cavalry? Tune in next week, and we most likely still won't know. :banghead:

 

[scorekeeper]

I agree. And for crying out loud, he had 5 FACEBOOK PAGES! You can send messages via facebook if nothing else is used! Unbelievable how some folks cannot see that Dylan was able to contact people without having their "phone number". JMO

and we know R has a smartphone, so he would have been able to check his facebook for a message from Dylan.

 

[cluciano63]

Thanks, Clu!

I only mentioned it because someone said MR would have gotten rid of the bike in order to make it look like Dylan left on it, if he had done something to him. I do not think it is relevant either way. I can't see Dylan taking off a bike to go 20 miles without calling anyone anymore so than on foot. And if the scene was staged, no one thinks of everything. So, either way, not a factor for me.

 

[WesternMD]

Let's not let our candles for Dylan burn out. He is -- and should be -- our focus.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

That's the thing, it's not clear to everyone that MR did this. Period.

I agree. In my opinion there's not enough information available to say for sure that Mark is responsible for Dylan's disappearance. That's why it's one of the rules of this thread that we can't outright accuse him of that.

 

[Flutterflies]

Where is the ignore feature?

go to the top of page, under Dylan's name - title of forum, you will see

user CP
go to Edit ignore list
you can then cut and paste the annoyance or just start typing in the name and it pops up.

Ignore is your friend and works wonders! Try it , you'll like it. Makes keeping up with Dylan's thread much more tolerable. This is the only thread out of many that I have to use it for. MOO

 

[katydid23]

Okay. I've already given my theory on what happened on Sunday night, and I'm going to TRY to give one for Monday that doesn't violate TOS.

Whoever caused Dylan's disappearance very likely knew one, or both, of his parents (MOO) or at least in this theory they did. Because X knew that the parents had issues, and Dylan would be there, it may have seemed like a good way to prove to be a good friend to P! (parent 1). There may not have been any solid plan in place, but an idea to do it at some point during the visit. Mark may have told X about having the appointments he had that morning, and X dropped by the house about 9 or so to check on Dylan. Because he'd had more sleep by then, Dylan was already up, watching tv and eating breakfast when he heard X knock on the door.

X sees that Dylan is there alone and tells him that P1 had asked X to make sure everything was okay there because XXXXXX (not saying what or it might point a finger somewhere). Dylan tells X that he was supposed to go to Bayfield that morning, but had to wait now because he slept too late. X offers a ride, and tells him to just grab his stuff in case he spends the night. Dylan is going to call MR or leave a note, but X says, "Don't worry about it, I'll be talking to both of your parents in a while. I'll talk to them about letting you spend the night since you got such a late start."

Dylan puts the phone away because he's expecting to see his friends shortly. They get into X's vehicle and X puts his things in the back/trunk. Dylan is still a bit groggy since he hasn't been up long, and doesn't realize for a while that they're going the wrong way. When he does ask about it, X just says they have to stop somewhere quick and then they'll be on their way.

I haven't quite decided on the rest - was there someone else there that helped? Was it X's home or somewhere else they stopped? Was Dylan given some excuse that he believed at first so he stayed willingly in the beginning? Should the Lone Ranger sell his horse and join the cavalry? Tune in next week, and we most likely still won't know. :banghead:

But how the heck do you convince a friend to kidnap and hold your child hostage, just to make your ex look bad? Who would do that for you?

I don't know anyone who would do that. It's had enough finding someone to pick you up from the airport or help you move, let alone someone who would illegally hide your kid for 2 months.

 

[cat28]

go to the top of page, under Dylan's name - title of forum, you will see

user CP
go to Edit ignore list
you can then cut and paste the annoyance or just start typing in the name and it pops up.

Ignore is your friend and works wonders! Try it , you'll like it. Makes keeping up with Dylan's thread much more tolerable. This is the only thread out of many that I have to use it for. MOO

Thank you!!!!!!

 

[NC Analyzer]

Okay. I've already given my theory on what happened on Sunday night, and I'm going to TRY to give one for Monday that doesn't violate TOS.

Whoever caused Dylan's disappearance very likely knew one, or both, of his parents (MOO) or at least in this theory they did. Because X knew that the parents had issues, and Dylan would be there, it may have seemed like a good way to prove to be a good friend to P! (parent 1). There may not have been any solid plan in place, but an idea to do it at some point during the visit. Mark may have told X about having the appointments he had that morning, and X dropped by the house about 9 or so to check on Dylan. Because he'd had more sleep by then, Dylan was already up, watching tv and eating breakfast when he heard X knock on the door.

X sees that Dylan is there alone and tells him that P1 had asked X to make sure everything was okay there because XXXXXX (not saying what or it might point a finger somewhere). Dylan tells X that he was supposed to go to Bayfield that morning, but had to wait now because he slept too late. X offers a ride, and tells him to just grab his stuff in case he spends the night. Dylan is going to call MR or leave a note, but X says, "Don't worry about it, I'll be talking to both of your parents in a while. I'll talk to them about letting you spend the night since you got such a late start."

Dylan puts the phone away because he's expecting to see his friends shortly. They get into X's vehicle and X puts his things in the back/trunk. Dylan is still a bit groggy since he hasn't been up long, and doesn't realize for a while that they're going the wrong way. When he does ask about it, X just says they have to stop somewhere quick and then they'll be on their way.

I haven't quite decided on the rest - was there someone else there that helped? Was it X's home or somewhere else they stopped? Was Dylan given some excuse that he believed at first so he stayed willingly in the beginning? Should the Lone Ranger sell his horse and join the cavalry? Tune in next week, and we most likely still won't know. :banghead:

I sincerely doubt either parent hasn't provided the FBI/CBI the names of every person they, or Dylan, ever remotely knows or knew...now or in the past. Friends, relatives, acquaintances, co-workers, employers, neighbors, service people, etc. In other words, anyone and everyone they have ever crossed paths with. In the event someone was missed or forgotten, I have confidence the FBI/CBI has tracked that person down as well. And this all leaves the question, "what would be the point....and what would be the outcome?" Obviously, this situation could not go on indefinitely.

Further, it also would indicate a problem with the intelligence and due diligence of the investigators/task force assigned to this case and if that's even somewhat true, there is no hope for any resolution. JMO

 

[cat28]

But how the heck do you convince a friend to kidnap and hold your child hostage, just to make your ex look bad? Who would do that for you?

I don't know anyone who would do that. It's had enough finding someone to pick you up from the airport or help you move, let alone someone who would illegally hide your kid for 2 months.

I believe she said the person did it thinking it would be helpful. They weren't asked.

 

[Dee10]

I only mentioned it because someone said MR would have gotten rid of the bike in order to make it look like Dylan left on it, if he had done something to him. I do not think it is relevant either way. I can't see Dylan taking off a bike to go 20 miles without calling anyone anymore so than on foot. And if the scene was staged, no one thinks of everything. So, either way, not a factor for me.

I think if the bike was in ride able condition it is relevant in regards to if Dylan went to the store or fishing for instance, why wouldn't he have taken the bike? At 13 that is your mode of transportation so to speak. The bike is there; Dylan isn't.

 

[jjenny]

I believe she said the person did it thinking it would be helpful. They weren't asked.

Where is this imaginary person keeping a teenager and is this imaginary person preventing this teenager from communicating with the rest of the world?