CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #30

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  • #241
Not if they still need more to corroborate it...they are not going to show all of their cards until they are sure no one else has an ACE up their sleeve. They want charges to stick. JMO

According to Jim Kouri, National Association of Chiefs of Police:
"Police sometimes "try to maintain that the person really isn't a suspect" in order to get him to agree to questioning without Miranda warnings, Kouri says. "You don't want the guy to lawyer up." Kouri says across the country, "it's the legal counsel telling police chiefs that they should instruct their officers and train them to use that term."


Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Craig Stebic--"Person of Interest" or "Suspect"? | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/craig_stebic_person_interest_or_suspect#ixzz2JbXmqvoT


As for the media, even if they know a suspect has been named, they will keep it quiet until they are authorized to release the information and/or they are positive there will not be liability issues for false information.
 
  • #242
I believe she said the person did it thinking it would be helpful. They weren't asked.

But even then, who does that?

And if there was someone that weird and obsessive in either ER or MR's lives, then LE knows about them already, imo.
 
  • #243
I think if the bike was in ride able condition it is relevant in regards to if Dylan went to the store or fishing for instance, why wouldn't he have taken the bike? At 13 that is your mode of transportation so to speak. The bike is there; Dylan isn't.

True, but then would he have taken all of his belongings too? If he went out for a ride to pass some time?
 
  • #244
Where is this imaginary person keeping a teenager and is this imaginary person preventing this teenager from communicating with the rest of the world?

I didn't post the theory so I can't answer that. Although, for awhile, I thought something similar.
 
  • #245
So MR wouldn't allow his 13 yr old who sitting home alone to use the computer?

You don't think he would have given him a guest password to use?

Mine is password protected too. But if my kids need to use it for some reason they can.

I can't say that thought would cross my mind, and I'm a mom. My kids can use the computer for homework when I'm around.

His friend was at his grandmothers. I bet she had a landline.

That's assuming Dylan knew her first and last name. Most kids know their friends grandparents as the same thing their friend calls them, Nana, Grammy, Grandma, etc...

Wasn't he going to R's Grandmothers? If he wasn't there she would know his cell.

See above.

So you don't believe Dylan knew anyone's phone number? Not his mom, dad, brother, at least one of his friends, (to get other friend's numbers from)? You honestly don't think anyone could be reached via another landline? Nope. I don't believe this. JMO

TBH, my son doesn't even know what a landline is.

I apologize, and I really do not want to be argumentative. But, the chances that this 13-year old child set off on his own, on foot, to parts unknown without communicating with ANYONE @ ANYTIME as to his intentions, even though he was at home w/access to phones and internet and the like, and who had the free time to eat cereal and watch TV, is minimal-to-nil.

It makes no rational sense...

I could wrap my head around an intruder snatching little Dylan before buying the speculation above. But, that makes no rational sense either because why would an intruder take all (or most) of thle child's belongings? Not to mention that, if there were signs of a struggle, I would hope that dad would have alerted the authorities immediately.

Call me irrational then.

Jumping off my own post, I cannot speak for anyone else, but IMO, most parents have taught their children how to act in an emergency situation, and this wasn't even an emergency but the same procedures would be applicable. I'm sure Dylan was probably pretty competent about phones, computers, ipods and cell phones. I certainly made sure (years ago) that my child could handle a simple situation such as this. I can't see ANY child in similar circumstances who wouldn't know how to contact someone.
JMO

If they felt it was an emergency situation. It may not have been that big of a deal to Dylan, especially if he found another ride with someone he vaguely knew. JMO
 
  • #246
go to the top of page, under Dylan's name - title of forum, you will see

user CP
go to Edit ignore list
you can then cut and paste the annoyance or just start typing in the name and it pops up.

Ignore is your friend and works wonders! Try it , you'll like it. Makes keeping up with Dylan's thread much more tolerable. This is the only thread out of many that I have to use it for. MOO

Does the person you put on Ignore know that you are ignoring them? ty
 
  • #247
But even then, who does that?

And if there was someone that weird and obsessive in either ER or MR's lives, then LE knows about them already, imo.


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If we knew who, then we would not be here now trying to come up with theories. I agree, it sounds crazy. Crazy does not make it impossible. MOO
 
  • #248
But even then, who does that?

And if there was someone that weird and obsessive in either ER or MR's lives, then LE knows about them already, imo.

I agree. Not to mention, it would have to be someone who had spoken to M very recently to know that Dylan was home alone, Imo. He wasn't meant to be, probably, as his plans had all changed for the weekend.

It is very difficult for me to buy that someone so in touch with either parent could not be unearthed by LE over the space of almost twelve weeks. Or so devoted to them, or to Dylan's welfare. Even if LE was totally inexperienced, the FBI is not. The only way I can see this being the case if if M belongs to some underground father's rights group or something, which seems unlikely. Do they steal children? If so, then what? How could that help their cause?

Are we supposed to picture some loony old grandma-type keeping Dylan locked in a room 24 hours a day? What? i just do not get it.
 
  • #249
True, but then would he have taken all of his belongings too? If he went out for a ride to pass some time?

Oh I agree, it really rules out he went to the store, to see his local friend or fishing, even if someone were to 'assume' the abductor brought back the bike.
 
  • #250
Does the person you put on Ignore know that you are ignoring them? ty

No, there is no way for them to know that. Ignore customizes the posts you see based on who you select to ignore - you will not see their posts. You will see the user's name and that they are on your ignore list. You can still see the post if you choose to there is a click on area if you want to see the post/s. When you refresh the page, it will go back to ignore status.
 
  • #251
I apologize, and I really do not want to be argumentative. But, the chances that this 13-year old child set off on his own, on foot, to parts unknown without communicating with ANYONE @ ANYTIME as to his intentions, even though he was at home w/access to phones and internet and the like, and who had the free time to eat cereal and watch TV, is minimal-to-nil.

It makes no rational sense...

I could wrap my head around an intruder snatching little Dylan before buying the speculation above. But, that makes no rational sense either because why would an intruder take all (or most) of thle child's belongings? Not to mention that, if there were signs of a struggle, I would hope that dad would have alerted the authorities immediately.
In your opinion! To some people it makes perfect sence. MOO

But how the heck do you convince a friend to kidnap and hold your child hostage, just to make your ex look bad? Who would do that for you?

I don't know anyone who would do that. It's had enough finding someone to pick you up from the airport or help you move, let alone someone who would illegally hide your kid for 2 months.

I don't think anyone was asked to do it. I'm also not saying it had to be done to make the ex look bad, and I don't really think that was the reason. I'll keep trying to figure out a way to continue with the theory without even indirectly accusing anyone, but I'm not sure how much more I could say about it other than that I do believe a person like that exists in one of their lives. MOO
 
  • #252
If it is someone both parents know fairly well and we've become aware of during the course of the past two months, to me its pretty obvious who you are referring to.
 
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If it is someone both parents know fairly well and we've become aware of during the course of the past two months, to me its pretty obvious who you are referring to.

I didn't post it to try to help people figure out who I believe could be involved, it was just to throw out a potential scenario that's not just rehashing the same things (and doesn't depend on phone use, or lack thereof, to prove it's validity/invalidity.)
 
  • #256
folks, you don't discuss who you are ignoring..

You can use it as a tool.

If anyone has a question on the ignore feature please pm a moderator for help.
 
  • #257
I agree. Not to mention, it would have to be someone who had spoken to M very recently to know that Dylan was home alone, Imo. He wasn't meant to be, probably, as his plans had all changed for the weekend.

It is very difficult for me to buy that someone so in touch with either parent could not be unearthed by LE over the space of almost twelve weeks. Or so devoted to them, or to Dylan's welfare. Even if LE was totally inexperienced, the FBI is not. The only way I can see this being the case if if M belongs to some underground father's rights group or something, which seems unlikely. Do they steal children? If so, then what? How could that help their cause?

Are we supposed to picture some loony old grandma-type keeping Dylan locked in a room 24 hours a day? What? i just do not get it.

There is a looney grandpa type here in Alabama with a 5 year old he took from the school bus. Guess where he is holed up with the 5 year old he abducted? An underground bunker! The child is watching TV, meds have been passed for the child through a pipe.

Looney things can and do happen everyday.
 
  • #258
Just some thoughts as a professional who works with children every day. Please teach your children how to use a land line if they haven't been exposed to such "technology". There are many situations that could arise where no cell phones could be used. It may save their life at some point and at the very least, it isn't outmoded yet. It's very simple and something that most 3 yr olds are capable of handling. JMO
 
  • #259
folks, you don't discuss who you are ignoring..

You can use it as a tool.

If anyone has a question on the ignore feature please pm a moderator for help.

Did you say something? :waitasec:



(Before anybody jumps on my for that, I don't believe you can ignore a mod or admin!) :seeya:
 
  • #260
There is a looney grandpa type here in Alabama with a 5 year old he took from the school bus. Guess where he is holed up with the 5 year old he abducted? An underground bunker! The child is watching TV, meds have been passed for the child through a pipe.

Looney things can and do happen everyday.

Obviously this isn't a situation that went undetected for over 2 months. Most "loonies" are well known. JMO
 
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