CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #30

[Deleted member 39678]

Makes sense. I don't know if this father is complicit, and it is POSSIBLE that he is not. But, it is not probable with the facts as being presented currently.

Betraying rules of physics = not possible.

If this child had contacted someone - ANYONE - in the am before/after/during eating cereal and watching TV, then my concerns would be elsewhere.

I don't blame anyone for being suspicious of Mark.

I still don't get your "betraying rules of physics = not possible."

I think that there are possible explanations why Dylan did not contact anyone Monday morning that doesn't involve Mark. MOO.

 

[Eileen730]

Just catching up some. I only saw a worried, frustrated, emotionally raw mother when looking at ER's interview. I think Smooth Operator is on to something in that ER is parsing her words and trying to hold back revealing her fears of what may have happened to Dylan. I believe those fears could be based solely on her own conclusions or based on information provided by LE.

I believe LE will not name MR as a POI. They want to keep communication open. We all know what happens when parents stop talking- Sky, Kyron, Baby Lisa, Hailey D. Ayla, etc.

I'm still of the opinion that the 9:37 communication could be R's incoming text. If something has been revealed to eliminate that possibility, I've overlooked it. I am still playing catch up. I saw something about MR saying that Dylan's cell phone was working fine? Could someone please point me to that?

I'm not convinced about MR's willingness to take another poly (if he's been asked or is asked). Some of the other things he's said he's willing to do- attend fund raisers, meet with a mediator- don't seem to get done through no fault of his own from what he says. All MOO

It's possible that someone could have strangled Dylan to death in Mark's home, then removed and disposed of his body somewhere else without leaving any forensic evidence of his death in the house.

Does that mean that Mark is the only one that could have done something like that? In my opinion, the answer is no.

I dont think anyone else was at that house!
Just MR
MOO

 

[Dixie811]

-- I believe it would greatly compromise the investigation for LE to impart confidential information critical to the case on ER or CR. (But no, I don't think she is responsible for whatever happened to Dylan).

-- We can be critical of MR for his stuttering, stammering, and hesitating in previous interviews. & then go on to be critical of him for being too "smooth" in this interview. But what does it really mean, if it is lose-lose?

JMO

 

[TxLady2]

Right On!

But, to be fair, it doesn't necessarily need to have been about her ex-husband specifically. But, yes, it would make perfect sense that she is being deceptive now - and not before - due to having knowledge that has recently been divulged to her in confidence. It would also make sense that, if she were coached by LE, it would interrupt her normal form of expression.

LE doesn't 'coach' anyone prior to them doing interviews with the media. In fact, they like to watch peoples' reactions to questions, even if they are not a suspect.

The question was about her own involvement, it had nothing whatsoever to do with anything LE may or may not have told her in confidence. Considering her statements previously to the media about Mark, I doubt seriously that they would tell her anything that was confidential anyway, but that's JMO.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I'm not saying anything about believing or not believing her, I am talking about her reaction was off. It didn't set right with me, because her answers to other questions seemed normal and not contrived, especially when asked anything about Mark. She's just never displayed that kind of reaction before and that is what had me shocked.

Sending her son on the trip would not mean she was involved in his disappearance.The reporter was not asking her if she felt guilty because she let him go, she was asking her if she had anything at all to do with his missing, which I take to mean purposely. It should have been simple enough to answer without getting flustered and having to think for a moment before she answered. Mark did not hesitate, or stammer or stutter or take time to frame answers in his mind... he answered simply and directly. But if he had been the one to have that reaction, I bet that would have a lot of people up in the air, swearing up and down it proves he's guilty.

I don't care how this was worded/asked. She's his mother. Guilt, feeling responsible, are all the same thing. When you lose a child, you feel like EVERYTHING is your fault...even the things that were completely out of your control. Ask me. I know. And this is a club no parent wants to join.

 

[scorekeeper]

pair of Dylan's sweat pants, his ipod and a nerf football they threw around that night was taken from Mark's home during search. Per reporter - said told to her by Mark.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfADjrfpFo&feature=player_embedded"]Dylan's dad talks - YouTube[/ame]

around 2:00

 

[TxLady2]

Nobody is saying Elaine did anything to Dylan. We do have the right to express opinions about her odd reaction to the question, though. It was strange, it was not what we had seen from her before, and just took some of us by surprise. She has already expressed feeling guilty for sending him, with no hesitation whatsoever, so why that reaction now? Maybe because this is the first time the media has asked her outright if she had anything to do with it? IDK.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Nobody is saying Elaine did anything to Dylan. We do have the right to express opinions about her odd reaction to the question, though. It was strange, it was not what we had seen from her before, and just took some of us by surprise. She has already expressed feeling guilty for sending him, with no hesitation whatsoever, so why that reaction now? Maybe because this is the first time the media has asked her outright if she had anything to do with it? IDK.

Adrenaline. You run on adrenaline until you can't function anymore. I think ER realizes she got the invitation to join the club lease:

 

[fedfan4life]

LE doesn't 'coach' anyone prior to them doing interviews with the media. In fact, they like to watch peoples' reactions to questions, even if they are not a suspect.

The question was about her own involvement, it had nothing whatsoever to do with anything LE may or may not have told her in confidence. Considering her statements previously to the media about Mark, I doubt seriously that they would tell her anything that was confidential anyway, but that's JMO.

Of course they coach. I've seen plenty of episodes on Investigation Discovery where LE elicit the assistance of someone involved in the case and prepare him/her beforehand.

No idea whatsoever if it happened here. But, it is a possible explanation as to how she handled the question posed to her during the interview.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Just catching up some. I only saw a worried, frustrated, emotionally raw mother when looking at ER's interview. I think Smooth Operator is on to something in that ER is parsing her words and trying to hold back revealing her fears of what may have happened to Dylan. I believe those fears could be based solely on her own conclusions or based on information provided by LE.

I believe LE will not name MR as a POI. They want to keep communication open. We all know what happens when parents stop talking- Sky, Kyron, Baby Lisa, Hailey D. Ayla, etc.

I'm still of the opinion that the 9:37 communication could be R's incoming text. If something has been revealed to eliminate that possibility, I've overlooked it. I am still playing catch up. I saw something about MR saying that Dylan's cell phone was working fine? Could someone please point me to that?

I'm not convinced about MR's willingness to take another poly (if he's been asked or is asked). Some of the other things he's said he's willing to do- attend fund raisers, meet with a mediator- don't seem to get done through no fault of his own from what he says. All MOO

BBM
I'm pretty sure that LE is saying that the 9:37 PM text was a out going text by Dylan.

Dylan sent text messages throughout the evening. Investigators say the last text went out at 9:37 p.m

I haven't seen anything about Mark saying that Dylan's cell phone was working fine. Could be a rumor.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/314078/339/What-happened-to-Dylan-Redwine

 

[The Cheese]

Tonight's 9 news video and article -

http://www.9news.com/news/article/3...gators-search-for-Redwine-other-missing-kids-

 

[WesternMD]

Focus on DYLAN -- remember to access the link to LIGHT A CANDLE for his safe journey.

 

[rebeccaeee]

I don't care how this was worded/asked. She's his mother. Guilt, feeling responsible, are all the same thing. When you lose a child, you feel like EVERYTHING is your fault...even the things that were completely out of your control. Ask me. I know. And this is a club no parent wants to join.

Absolutely agree with you. In the early days, she posted on FMDR (back when she was still posting notes to Dylan) something like "I am so sorry I made you go this time" --I went back to find the post but it is lost in the FB ethers or perhaps deleted since then. There are thousands upon thousands of posts and I don't recall if hers was a reply to an admin post or her own at the time. Anyhow- I read it as guilt that she followed what the court ordered her to do and forced her son to go on a visit he would rather have skipped. IMO. That must eat her up right now, no matter who did what to Dylan. Dylan is missing and she put him on the plane. Heck, i feel guilty if I don't catch my son before he falls and skins his knee. NCAnalyzer is right- ER is a mother and must be bearing enormous responsibility and regret for all of it. Something I don't particularly note with dad. IMOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

[mijamawi]

That's great news! I wonder if Ransom knows anyone in the group? Haven't see Ransom around lately.

I miss Ransom.

This looks like their facebook and looks like Mark called them 5 minutes after the story aired -

https://www.facebook.com/NewMexicoW...?comment_id=6899236&offset=0&total_comments=3

I think that is awesome!!!

Rules of physics? I'm not too worried about the odds of something being right or wrong, I like to base my opinion of someones guilt with facts. So far the facts leave me on the fence.

I'm so agreeing with you on this. I think MR is probably not someone I'd like. Regardless of that, I need facts to say he's guilty.

Yep. No way she did anything to this child relating to the disappearance. This is a speculation where there really is no evidence nor is it probable given the known facts.

Diversions, Diversions, Diversions

Well I would have said the same thing, but I'm honestly curious of her response. There's no evidence against MR either. There's speculation and that's about it.

-- I believe it would greatly compromise the investigation for LE to impart confidential information critical to the case on ER or CR. (But no, I don't think she is responsible for whatever happened to Dylan).

-- We can be critical of MR for his stuttering, stammering, and hesitating in previous interviews. & then go on to be critical of him for being too "smooth" in this interview. But what does it really mean, if it is lose-lose?

JMO

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I don't care how this was worded/asked. She's his mother. Guilt, feeling responsible, are all the same thing. When you lose a child, you feel like EVERYTHING is your fault...even the things that were completely out of your control. Ask me. I know. And this is a club no parent wants to join.

I'm honestly sorry if you've had personal experience, but I have to say dads love their children too, and they feel guilty and grief too. I know my husband would be destroyed if anything happened to our children.

Nobody is saying Elaine did anything to Dylan. We do have the right to express opinions about her odd reaction to the question, though. It was strange, it was not what we had seen from her before, and just took some of us by surprise. She has already expressed feeling guilty for sending him, with no hesitation whatsoever, so why that reaction now? Maybe because this is the first time the media has asked her outright if she had anything to do with it? IDK.

True dat. I was shocked when I watched that. Shirley she's been asked that question. It was very awkward and tension filled watching it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Of course they coach. I've seen plenty of episodes on Investigation Discovery where LE elicit the assistance of someone involved in the case and prepare him/her beforehand.

No idea whatsoever if it happened here. But, it is a possible explanation as to how she handled the question posed to her during the interview.

I've never watched Investigation Discovery. They actually show LE coaching people on what to say to the media to assist in their investigations? Do they tell them to lie? Or only embellish certain things?

 

[asyousay]

She also I imagine feels guilty over not getting him the smart phone with Gps as well . So it's easy to imagine that she is playing the what if game at this stage . There is just no way she can be involved as it makes no sense .

 

[cluciano63]

ER would end up in jail and not able to be with Dylan at all, if she was involved. She is not a stupid woman, although she may be doubting herself for ever marrying MR, IMO. She had everything to lose, nothing to gain. MR might think he had something to gain by tucking Dylan away somewhere. Or else a random perp becomes more and more likely to go free by the hour.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Well I'm glad to see MR making an attempt to do something.

 

[mijamawi]

ER would end up in jail and not able to be with Dylan at all, if she was involved. She is not a stupid woman, although she may be doubting herself for ever marrying MR, IMO. She had everything to lose, nothing to gain. MR might think he had something to gain by tucking Dylan away somewhere. Or else a random perp becomes more and more likely to go free by the hour.

Agreed, but perhaps she found out something after the fact.... JMO

 

[Seajay]

I've never watched Investigation Discovery. They actually show LE coaching people on what to say to the media to assist in their investigations? Do they tell them to lie? Or only embellish certain things?

I have Investigation Discovery hooked up by an IV pump.:floorlaugh: And I have never seen LE coach a person on what to tell the media. What I've seen was LE coaching an informant on how to wear a wire and ask questions to get a confession on tape. Big difference. Not once on Investigation Discovery have I seen anybody "coached" by LE to give certain statments to the public. If they want something done right, they have to do it themselves. IMO