CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #32

[Tennlyn]

In MR's words:
I believe in letting the investigation run its natural course.

Was that in this uncut interview? I need to relisten to it because that almost sounds like a challenge.

 

[katydid23]

"You know, I spent 45 minutes… an hour… trying to get Dylan to wake up and, you know, and helping him… saying, you know, “Dylan, I’m going down,” ‘cos he had talked to me about going to see his friend, Ryan …that morning, but he wasn’t having no part of it…
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This still sounds to me like he NEVER actually succeeded in waking Dylan up.


What happened to the last description of gently nudging him awake, and him 'understanding' completely that he had to leave but would be back at 11 ??????

By saying that he 'tried' to wake D up for 45 minutes to an hour, it sounds like he failed.

 

[azgrandma]

There are two books that I had been told to read at one time
The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker
Your Perfect Right by Robert Alberti

The Gift of Fear is an amazing book, it talks about how people (women in particular) ignore those hairs on the back of their neck, the red flags, the signs. Women tend to give excuses, reasoning and rational to why people do what they do because that is what they would do. Rather than listening to the inner voice that tells you to turn and run, they don't.
Your Perfect Right is about how to be assertive without being agressive. For example, a woman may tell a man, no I don't want to go out tonight I'm busy. Rather than say, no. No BTW is a complete sentence. A man hears, oh she wants to go out but she's busy tonight.

If you ever get a chance, read these.
My point is, we as women (it seems like there are a lot here) tend to not believe that someone could harm their child because we would never do that. We excuse behavior that we know is desceptive because we aren't.

Just food for thought.

 

[Lordeebee]

Was that in this uncut interview? I need to relisten to it because that almost sounds like a challenge.

Yes, I pasted from the transcript.

 

[NC Analyzer]

There are two books that I had been told to read at one time
The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker
Your Perfect Right by Robert Alberti

The Gift of Fear is an amazing book, it talks about how people (women in particular) ignore those hairs on the back of their neck, the red flags, the signs. Women tend to give excuses, reasoning and rational to why people do what they do because that is what they would do. Rather than listening to the inner voice that tells you to turn and run, they don't.
Your Perfect Right is about how to be assertive without being agressive. For example, a woman may tell a man, no I don't want to go out tonight I'm busy. Rather than say, no. No BTW is a complete sentence. A man hears, oh she wants to go out but she's busy tonight.

If you ever get a chance, read these.
My point is, we as women (it seems like there are a lot here) tend to not believe that someone could harm their child because we would never do that. We excuse behavior that we know is desceptive because we aren't.

Just food for thought.

I recommend The Gift of Fear (DeBecker), often. It's an excellent book. I gave my own daughter a copy. It's a book I believe every woman over the age of 12 should read. JMO

 

[Dee10]

There are two books that I had been told to read at one time
The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker
Your Perfect Right by Robert Alberti

The Gift of Fear is an amazing book, it talks about how people (women in particular) ignore those hairs on the back of their neck, the red flags, the signs. Women tend to give excuses, reasoning and rational to why people do what they do because that is what they would do. Rather than listening to the inner voice that tells you to turn and run, they don't.
Your Perfect Right is about how to be assertive without being agressive. For example, a woman may tell a man, no I don't want to go out tonight I'm busy. Rather than say, no. No BTW is a complete sentence. A man hears, oh she wants to go out but she's busy tonight.

If you ever get a chance, read these.
My point is, we as women (it seems like there are a lot here) tend to not believe that someone could harm their child because we would never do that. We excuse behavior that we know is desceptive because we aren't.

Just food for thought.

Thank you I heard of the lst one, but haven't had the chance to read it. I marked both down. Another book well recommended is The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. That's on my list too.

 

[i8mypaint]

There are two books that I had been told to read at one time
The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker
Your Perfect Right by Robert Alberti

The Gift of Fear is an amazing book, it talks about how people (women in particular) ignore those hairs on the back of their neck, the red flags, the signs. Women tend to give excuses, reasoning and rational to why people do what they do because that is what they would do. Rather than listening to the inner voice that tells you to turn and run, they don't.
Your Perfect Right is about how to be assertive without being agressive. For example, a woman may tell a man, no I don't want to go out tonight I'm busy. Rather than say, no. No BTW is a complete sentence. A man hears, oh she wants to go out but she's busy tonight.

If you ever get a chance, read these.
My point is, we as women (it seems like there are a lot here) tend to not believe that someone could harm their child because we would never do that. We excuse behavior that we know is desceptive because we aren't.

Just food for thought.

Thank you

 

[Lordeebee]

MR:
.. I always try at least once a week to contact him. You know I’m not going to nag him to death.

Another unfortunate choice of words?

 

[Dee10]

Maybe after hearing these change of stories & omissions of others (like Nerf football), maybe they will challenge MR to come in for another sit-down interview & poly.

 

[azgrandma]

Your DH gets to touch your computer ? :what:

Not anymore :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[katydid23]

...snipped for space...
The one thing that both of his parents, and pretty much everybody else seems to agree on is that Dylan wasn't likely to have been sarcastic or argumentative. MOO

Wasn't there a clip with a couple of his friends saying that D was argumentative, and liked to be just for the heck of it?

And didn't Elaine once say that she worried about what D might have said to MR that could make him angry?

 

[Lordeebee]

Maybe after hearing these change of stories & omissions of others (like Nerf football), maybe they will challenge MR to come in for another sit-down interview & poly.

THIS I will pray for..

 

[Dee10]

MR:
.. I always try at least once a week to contact him. You know I’m not going to nag him to death.

Another unfortunate choice of words?

WoW, I missed that one, good grief!

 

[azgrandma]

2 p.m.: A postal worker may have seen Dylan walking on County Road 501 near Vallecito with another boy. Both reportedly were wearing hooded sweatshirts and had black backpacks.

Did we ever hear anything else on this siting? Could this have been Dylan and his kidnapper or the RSO that Salem mentioned?

IIRC there were sightings of someone that was wearing a hooded jacket and a postal worker and some other men (like cable or phone something like that) saw, but the person ran away. I really for the life of me can't remember when but I believe it was in the Durango Herald. The person was determined to be a jogger.

 

[azgrandma]

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...PAGE/Timeline-of-events-in-Dylan-Redwine-case
7:30 a.m.: Mark Redwine says he left his house to run errands in Durango. This is the last time he saw Dylan.
11:30 a.m.: Mark Redwine says he returns home and finds that Dylan is gone.
2 p.m.: A postal worker may have seen Dylan walking on County Road 501 near Vallecito with another boy. Both reportedly were wearing hooded sweatshirts and had black backpacks.
6 p.m.: Mark Redwine calls police to report Dylan missing. Shortly after, La Plata County Search and Rescue begins searching for Dylan in areas near County Road 500, where his father lives, north of Vallecito Reservoir.

Day 3: Tuesday, Nov. 20
Afternoon: Two rescue workers think they may have seen Dylan on two separate occasions but say he fled into the forest. One of the sightings turned out to be a jogger; the other sighting may have been the same jogger or Dylan.

 

[KateNY]

So,

wonder would LE issue any to BOLOs to Walmarts

since MR asked for Dylan to be dropped off at one?


:waitasec:

 

[SuperMom1995]

"You know, I spent 45 minutes… an hour… trying to get Dylan to wake up and, you know, and helping him… saying, you know, “Dylan, I’m going down,” ‘cos he had talked to me about going to see his friend, Ryan …that morning, but he wasn’t having no part of it…
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This still sounds to me like he NEVER actually succeeded in waking Dylan up.


What happened to the last description of gently nudging him awake, and him 'understanding' completely that he had to leave but would be back at 11 ??????

By saying that he 'tried' to wake D up for 45 minutes to an hour, it sounds like he failed.

I hate to say it but I am afraid that may be a real account of Dylan never waking up. It sounds like he was totally unresponsive.

 

[katydid23]

Here is another scenario that I recently have pondered. Let's say that NOBODY wakes Dylan up that morning. Instead they slip out quietly to go about their business.

So when that person does return, they find a a very angry teen who has just awoken and is upset at being left behind and now being so late.

Maybe it went sideways from there. D grabs his stuff and says he is leaving and he cusses someone out for leaving without him earlier. And they jump in the truck and continue to argue, and they never make it to Bayfield?

 

[cluciano63]

If MR is innocent, he sure gives off a lot of dubious signals when speaking and reconstructing his timelines, etc...

With ER, I felt everything she is going through, while with him, I just feel a disconnect somehow, that I cannot explain. I mean his CHILD IS GONE. I just don't get the sense of the seriousness of that fact when I see or listen to him and JMO only.

 

[Dee10]

In the last press release from LE, it stated MR was the last identified person to be seen with Dylan, so they have ruled out all sitings up-to that release last week I think it came out.