CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #32

[TxLady2]

Oh you mean they don't have ONE officer personally knock on the door of each RSO, question him/her, then personally drive to wherever he/she was suppose to be, question people and then move to the next? j/k
Checking out that many in 24/48 hrs is nothing, I do believe that LE employs more than one person at a time.

That's assuming the person is where they are supposed to be when they go to question them. Not all of them are required to wear monitoring devices if they aren't considered dangerous, say their conviction was years ago and they've been clean ever since.

It can be a little more complicated than just asking them a couple questions and moving on. They then have to verify that information, and sometimes that means tracking other people down, trying to jog their memories, which takes time.

My thoughts are that Mark felt they needed to do more than verify an alibi, he wanted them to do a more thorough investigation of where they had been and what they had been up to in the days leading up to Dylan's disappearance. I don't see anything strange about that at all.

 

[DylansMom34]

I just want to make sure I understand... the 7:30-11:30 errands consisted of:

MR meeting with his divorce lawyer.
I saw something about dealing with a payroll issue but have seen conflicting info on this, did he actually go to his payroll office or did he do this over the phone?
Was there any other errand?

 

[TxLady2]

O/T For those that were following the Candice Shield's case in Graham, TX her ex bf Jeremy Thornberg has been arrested for her murder.

Oh, my goodness! Thanks Psychic Sleuth! I've kind of followed that case, I lived in Graham many years ago for a couple years. Glad to hear there's a break in the case.

 

[jjenny]

I just want to make sure I understand... the 7:30-11:30 errands consisted of:

MR meeting with his divorce lawyer.
I saw something about dealing with a payroll issue but have seen conflicting info on this, did he actually go to his payroll office or did he do this over the phone?
Was there any other errand?

He went to the office to deal with the payroll issue. He said he wanted to be there as soon as the office opened.

 

[Dixie811]

I just want to make sure I understand... the 7:30-11:30 errands consisted of:

MR meeting with his divorce lawyer.
I saw something about dealing with a payroll issue but have seen conflicting info on this, did he actually go to his payroll office or did he do this over the phone?
Was there any other errand?

He talked about going to the store to do a more thorough shopping trip for the week (esp. if Dylan had decided he did not want to go to Castle Rock for Thanksgiving). But since Dylan did not respond to his texts, it was not made clear whether or not Mark still went to the store.

 

[NC Analyzer]

That's assuming the person is where they are supposed to be when they go to question them. Not all of them are required to wear monitoring devices if they aren't considered dangerous, say their conviction was years ago and they've been clean ever since.

It can be a little more complicated than just asking them a couple questions and moving on. They then have to verify that information, and sometimes that means tracking other people down, trying to jog their memories, which takes time.

My thoughts are that Mark felt they needed to do more than verify an alibi, he wanted them to do a more thorough investigation of where they had been and what they had been up to in the days leading up to Dylan's disappearance. I don't see anything strange about that at all.

I sincerely doubt LE simply "verified an alibi". They usually dig around a bit and they don't always take one person's word for it. Sometimes and alibi is easy. Sometimes not. But checking that number of people out isn't something that would take very long.

I'd just like to add this as food for thought. I worked as an investigator in a small, rural county for a long time. We KNEW who the convicted S/O's were and where to find them. We also KNEW a lot of un-convicted S/O's. There are guys who do get away with it for a while due to lack of evidence, witnesses who refuse to testify, whatever. It doesn't mean anything. I had one guy who molested a young boy. The child was unable to provide any testimony due to his tender age. We had forensic evidence and the child did indicate who touched him, but the mom was not one of our most upstanding citizens so she refused to cooperate with the prosecution and up and moved out of state. Not much we could do. Child and mom were considered victims and we couldn't force the issue. The guy was often seen at the local elementary school when the bell rang. The guy was also offering babysitting services to many of our drug addicted mom's...who took him up on the offer. I was fed up with knowing what I knew, but there wasn't anything we could DO about him until he got caught in the act. Sad but true. The point I'm making is don't think LE doesn't know where to go or who to look at...especially in the area Dylan disappeared. They know. JMO

 

[Dee10]

Missing from MR"s morning time line this go round is that DR woke up enough to say
'yes i understand' about MR leaving and thus missing his ride to his friends until later.
js

Good catch, I don't remember hearing that either. You are going to forget details and things that you never planned to do. It seems he forgot after going on and on about texting Dylan to see if he wanted anything and extra trips and all.

 

[scorekeeper]

I kinda felt like MR was reminiscing

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I wonder what Elaine meant when she made the comment that Mark may have underestimated Dylan?

 

[DylansMom34]

I kinda felt like MR was reminiscing

I agree... IMO he seemed to get fairly emotional and choked up when he was talking about their vacation to Boston over the summer.

 

[mijamawi]

This is from my timeline a few pages back that I wrote while listening,,, in other words, no link

'''MR can't concentrate on one thing for 2 hrs. Likes sit coms better, 30 min.
MR was ' pacing the floor" at some point , taking care of things at the ' kitchen table ' :O
MR was tired, DR was tired, spent most of the day travelling.
10:30 ish movie is done. MR Runs up and goes to bed. ''''

This is a huge contradiction. Unable to sit still and watch a whole movie, up PACING the floor at some point,,,,,, indicates nervous energy or anxiety or excitement or too much coffee or too much on your mind OR something else MOOIMHOATJ!!!!!!!! Followed immediately by we we're both so tired, i went up to bed.

WHAT THE HECK !?!?!?!?!?!

Jumping off my own post and sorry to mods this thread seems to have taken on more of a ' scanner' thread quality because of the ' breaking' sort of news with the vids just being uploaded but my brain is spinning and smoking !

If you've been out of town for days on the road and drive clear to the airport , then go shopping for food, then stop at mcdonalds, then tell your son its too late to go to his friends house, then drive another 45 minutes home, one would think you might be exhausted . In fact MR said he's exhausted at this point. What would cause you to be up pacing about instead of sitting comfortably , even chilling OUT with your son on the couch, in anticipation of winding down for bed. THINK! What would give you that type of nervous, excessive adrenaline at such a time ?!?!?!?!?!

Just because he's up moving around doesn't mean he's not exhausted. My husband is one of those people who can't sit still (well before he discovered Minecraft anyway) but he could not sit for a movie. He would get up and mess around in the kitchen or whatever just because he couldn't sit still.

Also ER said she's never had a problem reaching DR when he's at that house with cell phone reception. MR just says there are only 2 very small spots within the house where he could get a signal. fwiw

I have to wonder why then she wasn't concerned after texting Dylan Sunday night and not having heard from him all day the next day???

From what I understand this interview was done before the "rally". Is that right?

He went to the office to deal with the payroll issue. He said he wanted to be there as soon as the office opened.

Yes, I believe he said the phone call was to the property management company.

 

[Lordeebee]

He talked about going to the store to do a more thorough shopping trip for the week (esp. if Dylan had decided he did not want to go to Castle Rock for Thanksgiving). But since Dylan did not respond to his texts, it was not made clear whether or not Mark still went to the store.

It didn't sound like he went to the store because he was waiting to talk to Dylan to see what he wanted to do for Thanksgiving. But I don't understand why he stresses how important it was to get the shopping done right then, since he was supposedly picking Dylan up and then heading back to drop him off at R's gramma's house. Does she live far away from any shopping areas?

 

[Dixie811]

I wonder what Elaine meant when she made the comment that Mark may have underestimated Dylan?

I wondered the same thing. Could she have meant that he underestimated what a little adult Dylan had become? Still thought of him as a little boy?

Or did she mean that MR was under the impression that Dylan could be manipulated?

Or that Dylan had expressed hostility for MR to ER, but that MR was unaware of it because Dylan always said what MR wanted to hear while in his presence?

 

[mck16]

I can only speak from personal experience with LE in my area. They all should know 101 Investigations. It would have been checked out. Everyone. Anyone. And probably a few extras that don't even have connections to the family of DR or any SO.
I didn't think I was being "snarky" about MR. I stated my opinion. I have seen him point the finger at LE more than one time now in his few interviews. He appears to point that finger at anyone whenever he is in the spotlight, but yet, he is the first one dismiss anyone who points the finger at him. He couldn't even admit that he feels somewhat responsible for Dylan's disappearance...and yet we see that ER blames herself...5 hours away. ANY parent in his shoes would feel guilty and responsible if their child disappeared. Except in this case, MR doesn't think that would be "productive". Nice. JMO and only my opinion.

I am sorry, but I said sarcasm not snarky. And in the video I watched he did not say he did not feel guilty. He said of course he did. And another thing, he has never said anything negative toward ER. And in the interview his comments were alway 'WE'. All the negative press or informtation about MR has come from ER. Let's be clear, I in no way feel that ER had anything to do with this, but I think if there are any negative feeling toward her it is because the perception has been presented that it is either her or MR. This has become a verbal battle between mom and dad. This isn't right and will accomplish nothing in the long run.

In this video I saw love for Dylan and Cory and total understanding for Elaine. I actually saw more intelligent statements about the situation than I have seen from anyone else. I see from him that he feels in this matter, that they are still a family and in this together. jmo

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Originally Posted by SCHMAE
Also ER said she's never had a problem reaching DR when he's at that house with cell phone reception. MR just says there are only 2 very small spots within the house where he could get a signal. fwiw

I have to wonder why then she wasn't concerned after texting Dylan Sunday night and not having heard from him all day the next day???

She said she just figured he was busy with his friends. Elaine had no way of knowing that Dylan didn't get to go to his friends Sunday night.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I am sorry, but I said sarcasm not snarky. And in the video I watched he did not say he did not feel guilty. He said of course he did. And another thing, he has never said anything negative toward ER. And in the interview his comments were alway 'WE'. All the negative press or informtation about MR has come from ER. Let's be clear, I in no way feel that ER had anything to do with this, but I think if there are any negative feeling toward her it is because the perception has been presented that it is either her or MR. This has become a verbal battle between mom and dad. This isn't right and will accomplish nothing in the long run.

In this video I saw love for Dylan and Cory and total understanding for Elaine. I actually saw more intelligent statements about the situation than I have seen from anyone else. I see from him that he feels in this matter, that they are still a family and in this together. jmo

There are those who commit unspeakable acts against someone they "love". As far as everything else...we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[azgrandma]

In regards to MR's comments about it taking 24 hrs to clear the RSO's and he felt that it was pretty quick. According to the information I could find, over 50 LE officers from 4 agencies were searching RSO's for about a week at minimum. NOT 24 hours and they were all cleared.

11/18 or 11/19 Dylan went missing either
11/19 DR was reported missing, LE spent days believing DR walked or run away - they could only go by this because this was the only information they had available.
They spent the next few days treating him as a run away, search lakes and the area.

11/27 The door-to-door canvassing by the task force came after days of searching with dogs and a dive team
11/29 Search of MR's home
12/8/2012 Durango Herald - Phippen said all of the local registered sex offenders had been checked out and had alibis for the 48-hour period from when Dylan arrived at the airport to the time he was reported missing
There are 144 registered sex offenders in La Plata County, according to the Sheriff’s Office website; 56 of those are not named on the website. Two are shown with Bayfield addresses.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121129/NEWS01/121129570

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121208/NEWS01/121209618

 

[mck16]

She said she just figured he was busy with his friends. Elaine had no way of knowing that Dylan didn't get to go to his friends Sunday night.

I really doubt that she even knew about the plans. jmo

 

[jjenny]

I really doubt that she even knew about the plans. jmo

Then presumably she believed DR was spending time with his father.

 

[mck16]

Then presumably she believed DR was spending time with his father.

I guess. I would presume so since the last time she heard from him he was with his father. I think from the texts we can surmise the plans were made on the way home. No?? jmo