CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #33

[nursebeeme]

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thread about the manhunt (I see several discussing it)

This guy is crazy and on the loose. I hope all of you in these areas are safe and on alert.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I believe the proof of Mark's innocence or guilt is in the phone pings on both Sunday night and Monday morning. If he's pinging everywhere Dylan is, then that's good. But if his phone stops pinging when Dylan's does, that's bad. If he is pinging the that night or the next day at the lake for a period of time, that's not good. If he's pinging everywhere he says he was, then that's good.

The pings will give MR's movements in those questionable days. It's not just about Dylan's pings, Mark's are equally as important.

I agree! Finally we agree!!

But MR did go to Dylan's friends house at the lake the next day so he would have been pinging there. And whose to say it HAS to be the lake?

 

[mijamawi]

I know nobody in the U.S. personally that has any clue who Dylan Redwine is. If I were to ask everyone I know if they heard about the boy in Colorado who is missing named Dylan I guarantee you nobody would have a clue who I was talking about.

I agree, but I don't think Dr. Phil is the answer. I really don't. As someone stated up thread, I think it would just muddy the waters and confuse the situation. There are better platforms to get his name/face out there; one that would deal with facts and not drama of the family dynamics and focus solely on Dylan rather than his trainwreck of a family.

 

[ColdHands]

I believe the proof of Mark's innocence or guilt is in the phone pings on both Sunday night and Monday morning. If he's pinging everywhere Dylan is, then that's good. But if his phone stops pinging when Dylan's does, that's bad. If he is pinging the that night or the next day at the lake for a period of time, that's not good. If he's pinging everywhere he says he was, then that's good.

The pings will give MR's movements in those questionable days. It's not just about Dylan's pings, Mark's are equally as important.

Jumping off your thread because you reminded me of a thought I had earlier.

Assuming MR's story is true, would knowing what time he first texted Dylan on Monday help narrow down the 7:30-11:30 window? For instance, if he texted Dylan at 10, that could indicate Dylan disappeared between 7:30 and 10. Example only, of course I don't know what time MR texted Dylan that day. And I don't know how much it helps, just trying to think of a new approach.

Perhaps MR would be willing to show his texts to the reporter, MB, for this purpose.

 

[SuperMom1995]

Okay. Yes, the fact that he won't do the show unless both parents show up speaks volumes. The producers are probably praying they they
agree, and then get into a yelling match on stage.

And who cares about what the shows motive is as long as it furthers the mission of finding dylan? This is not the time to be self riteous..

 

[SCHMAE]

I was only responding with what he said in the interview and not my interpretation of what he could have done, should have done, or would have done.



I am here: :fence:

my post was not an opinion: it was my recollection of what I watched on the interview.

Isn't your A$$ sore yet from that fence ? :floorlaugh:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Do you happen to know off chance, the number of viewers in Colorado that watch the Dr. Phil show?

IIRC from the Lisa Irwin case it was 750,000 nationally, but this was some time ago.

I would be more interested in the stats from Colorado specifically and maybe New Mexico.

I don't know the numbers.

Just because we know everything about Dylan I think we tend to think everyone else must too. Nationwide the amount of people that have heard of Dylan Redwine must be minuscule. I'll bet the numbers overall in Colorado are tiny.

 

[Seajay]

Dr. Phil is like a double-edged sword for me. I have no respect for him. He is a drama-monger who exploits for ratings and cash. However, it would also mean a LOT of eyes and attention for Dylan. So, worth it even if my skin is crawling a bit. I am a bit concerned he will manipulate the situation just for drama's sake and end up distorting the case even further which will be sad.

I'm concerned about him doing that and it backfiring big time. What if he manipulates and causes drama to where it looks like Mark did have something to do with it, that Mark did hide him. Then no one is going to look for Dylan, no one is going to see him as missing for reals. And if Mark is innocent, that really hurts the search for Dylan and the people out there looking for him. IMO, JMO, MOO

 

[mijamawi]

And who cares about what the shows motive is as long as it furthers the mission of finding dylan? This is not the time to be self riteous..

I disagree. I think it would not focus on Dylan but rather focus on Mark. Anyone who didn't know anything before the show wouldn't be keeping an eye out because they would think it's a family issue. I know if I just came upon this case and only read what's on the FB pages and in the news, I'd totally tune out just because of all the fighting and pointing fingers, and heck, I'd probably think MR did it. MOO

 

[cluciano63]

IMO, if they do Dr. Phil, it will only reinforce the idea to many that this is nothing more than an extremely vicious custody battle, not an abduction or a "real" criminal case.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Well I'll just go on record and take my hits but, after watching MRs 40 minute interview, I am not AS convinced of his involvement as I was prior. Can I ' clear him'? Obviously not . Not even LE can clear him so I could not. I still think he could be involved but last week I was pretty darn SURE he was involved . This week not so much. I think he represented himself fairly well. I also think all the little new details are not new to LE. I think when LE interviews someone in a case like this they probably say " what movie, what time, what food, drive thru or carry out, where was the pillow, etc etc" . It's interesting to us because it's new but we have no idea if he changed anything. Does he seem like a hard to get along with , rough fellow? You bet. Has he caused loads of distress for all his former and current family members, probably so. Would I be shocked to find out he is involved? Not in the least. But for some reason I feel better about him now than I did. Seems to be the opposite reaction for most of the posters. I will still point out any oddball thing I notice or think or read about him because he may be guilty of something. I will still do the same in any direction I see something amiss. It could be that he's a hermit type of guy almost and this sudden constant interest in him has ' changed' his demeanor to the point that he's constantly feeling ' deer in the headlights' and that is why his speaking style, voice, eyes, mouth twitches , etc. are present. I'd be twitching and shaking if I had to be on tv all the time for any reason , especially if I knew I might be looking at serious trouble for something I did do or did not do . He's probably accepted the fact that even if 100% innocent, he's in real trouble here.
I cannot discount the words of people who know / knew him, however. No one here should be so arrogant as to think any of us know more or feel more or can sleuth out better , more accurate information about a person than actual family members who have lived with him for years. Gran, and ER and CR know much , much more than us.
Where the heck is Dylan?

I don't know that I'm willing to say my mind changed, but I will admit he at least gained a teensy weensy bit of my respect just for doing the darn interview! I want to see him out there attempting to do something to help find his son! I want to see an effort! And then maybe just maybe my opinion might change.

 

[mijamawi]

I'm concerned about him doing that and it backfiring big time. What if he manipulates and causes drama to where it looks like Mark did have something to do with it, that Mark did hide him. Then no one is going to look for Dylan, no one is going to see him as missing for reals. And if Mark is innocent, that really hurts the search for Dylan and the people out there looking for him. IMO, JMO, MOO

Lol, we said the same thing, only you always word things much better than I do.

 

[SuperMom1995]

Well if she believes her ex holds the key to that info, then getting Dylan's picture out nationwide is likely of little value. Therefore, it only confirms my opinion that her intent is to angrily confront him, and he would be a fool to open himself up to her like that on a sensationalistic talk show. JMO.

So if he knows he is innocent he should help her get the word out...

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

It should be all about getting his name and face out there. Who gives a rip about how that needs to happen and what makes viewers stop and take notice. Just make it happen!

A year from now there will be no National TV show offers. There will be no local reporters interested in the case and there will be nobody talking about Dylan.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

So if he knows he is innocent he should help her get the word out...

Why wouldn't he???? That's my question. If he loves his son and he's innocent he should be screaming from the rooftops!

 

[Allusonz]

Thanks. Is MH offering to pay MR's wages for those days in that MSM article as well???

Man I have to seriously wonder if we are dealing with adults in this case.

I feel like I am in a circus but Dylan is not in the center ring.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

My guess is MR is coming up with excuses (as they have claimed he has done with the 2nd poly and other things) as to why he can't do the Dr Phil show. I think the only reason that was put on the table was so he didn't have any excuses. Simple.

 

[SCHMAE]

I don't know that I'm willing to say my mind changed, but I will admit he at least gained a teensy weensy bit of my respect just for doing the darn interview! I want to see him out there attempting to do something to help find his son! I want to see an effort! And then maybe just maybe my opinion might change.

Please understand I'm in no way convinced he is innocent and equally not convinced he is guilty. Ouch,,,,, I think that means I've got picket up my bum now. I hate that !

 

[dlc]

He didn't lose Dylan unless he actually did something to lose him. If his story is true, he is no more culpable than anyone else not involved.

Well, he kind of did lose him, IMO. He left him alone in an isolated setting, the day after he arrived. He says he called him several times, and received no answer, but didn't cut his errands short to go home and see what the heck was up. When he did arrive home, and Dylan wasn't there, and all his stuff was gone, and there was no note, Mark took a nap for a couple of hours. Hours that would have been valuable indeed if Dylan was the victim of a wandering predator. When he did decide to look, some of his decision making was questionable and erratic, again losing more time.

Dylan was alive and watched over and well when he boarded the plane to visit his father. It cannot be said that he is in that same condition now. His father was the adult in charge of him, and thus the "loser" of the child.

IMO

Thank you.

 

[mijamawi]

My guess is MR is coming up with excuses (as they have claimed he has done with the 2nd poly and other things) as to why he can't do the Dr Phil show. I think the only reason that was put on the table was so he didn't have any excuses. Simple.

Even if it was about money, why on God's green earth would he (MH) make that offer and do it on a FB page. It's tacky and quite disgusting.