CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #33

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More of the cases I have become attached to remain unsolved, than solved. It is very depressing and hard to be optimistic. I have never seen a good ending in a case when a missing was missing for months, unless an adult by choice, or a child who vanished with a parent, in the past few years.

I know, I know...been there, but I am not giving up on LE or anyone else bringing Dylan home at this point.:pillowfight2:
 
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I'm not sure if HRD dogs pick up a person's scent; I thought they only picked up the scent of decompensation.

She has said some things I don't recall hearing....also from article

We also think maybe someone took him to another country, like Mexico, where he can’t use a phone.”

O/T the DRN is back up......

Why can't he use a phone in Mexico? They work the exact same way.
 
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His aunt also said that these scenarios are being created in their minds to prevent thinking the worst. I do not believe they have any real reason to think he is in Mexico.
 
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“It was court ordered. It was at the end of a long custody battle and (Elaine) won, but the visitation schedule said Dylan’s father got him for Thanksgiving and that’s when he disappeared.”

Strange. Elaine posted on FMDR that there was no custody battle, didn't she? Maybe a month or so ago?
 
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Perhaps they only have landlines?

No, we have a home in Mexico - - it is just like in the US, we have both cell phones and land lines.
 
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posted by SuperMom1995 in the previous thread:
I do not have a specific quote or reference but I have a background in psychology (undergrad) and Law, and I have read that words which are repeated over and over, during an investigation, are sensitive in some way.

I majored in sociology/psych, and have spent the past several years studying speech patterns, body language, etc. My next step is completing Mark McClish's Statement Analysis course - amazing stuff - and it's from reading Mr. McClish's work (I asked him to help out on the Keddie murders case, and his work was of immense help) that I've begun to scrutinise exactly what you're saying - the 'senstive' areas in people's statements, their pronoun use, etc. Not an expert (yet) but still, studying McClish's methods has opened my eyes a lot to the way people speak, and what they are -not- saying.

It will probably take me weeks to comb over the transcripts. But right away, I notice MR's use of pronouns when he's asked to make statements regarding what he's say to Dylan when Dylan comes home, and what he'd like to say to Dylan's abductors.

Primarily, MR uses "I" a great deal in relation to his son - and there's also a LOT of both simmering and blatant hostility toward his ex wife throughout the interview.

Yet when asked the above questions, MR switches to primarily using "we". So.. who is "we", kimosabe? Him and.... who? The ex wife who hates his guts and thinks he took their son? There's no unity in this relationship, and none in the matter of Dylan's disappearance - yet, he speaks in terms of "we", not "I".

To me, this seems like "we" is a bit of shield, where "I" might be an uncomfortable pronoun. It's enough to make me think this is, as you say, a "sensitive" area.

This is probably the big sticker-outer for me, right now (BBM and respectfully snipped from the transcript) :

Melissa Blasius:
*snip* Did you have anything whatsoever to do with Dylan’s disappearance?

Mark Redwine:
Absolutely not. I would never do anything to harm that boy. I know they’re looking at me as being involved in some kind of kidnapping scheme, which is one of the reasons why I want them to look closely at me, because the more that they look at me, the more they’re going to realize that I have nothing to do with this. There’s no possible way I would do anything to cause harm or misery to my son.

Melissa Blasius:
Do you have any idea what did happen to him then?

Mark Redwine:
I can only speculate, and…. It’s hard for me to voice my opinion as far as that goes, because I’ll be honest with you, the only thing that matters and the only thing in my mind that should matter to anybody is finding Dylan.
I’m not interested in pointing fingers. I’m not interested in blaming anybody. My only interest is finding Dylan, and I think that once we find Dylan and bring him home, it will bring all the answers to the questions that we don’t have. I could speculate all day long.


I bolded the phrases of interest I intend to come back to at some point ("I would never do anything to harm that boy"- compare this to statements like "I have never had sexual relations with that woman"..) but I think it's enough to say for now that nowhere does MR make the simple statement, "I didn't hurt my son", or "I am not involved in Dylan's disappearance." Instead, there's a lot of deflection and passive aggressive comebacking to Elaine ("I'm not interested in pointing fingers" - this makes no sense at all in the case of possible stranger abduction, it only makes sense in context of MR deflecting from a direct answer by passive aggressively blaming Elaine, or making a comeback to other people's 'finger pointing').

But the loudest sub-text I am seeing in this interview is anger - at Elaine, and very possibly at some dichotomy between the highly idealised relationship with Dylan MR is describing, and a reality in which that intense bond has been degraded -- or maybe doesn't actually exist as MR would like it to, or would like us to believe.

I can't say if this makes him guilty. But I'm eyeballing him, based on the facts I listed in a former post, and now these initial perceptions of his statements.
 
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Part of my heart forever is right. I knew for the last few weeks I've been spending way too much time on this thread and I've followed plenty of cases in th past but not to this extent , nowhere close. When the ' hoax' of a body found showed up , I just felt almost like ..... well this is stupid but I'll say it, I felt as if something had happened to someone I really physically knew and loved, even in that split second. When ER in her interview said Dylan is everybody's child now , the whole country's child ( paraphrasing) I think that is what she meant. So many people have a vested interest in seeing him smile again. I was glad that she said that and it means even though her heart is breaking she can feel the love of everyone who's praying and hoping along with her. But it's got to end happy......it just has to !

You all know this is my first case at WS and I could not turn away now if I wanted to. At the time, I wondered why the story caught me and why it stuck. I now know that it has changed the way I will read every missing persons story down the road and it has opened my eyes about the power of community and the shared responsibility we all have to keep each other safe. I am sad tonight, uncharacteristically so, for Dylan and his family. Happy birthday, bright boy, wherever you are. Come home soon.
 
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She and the rest of her family do not believe Mark Redwine would hurt Dylan, Paredes-Moyer said. But blaming someone makes it easier than not knowing where Dylan Redwine is.

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“I don’t want to speculate, but my family is at the point where they would rather feel that the father did something because if Mark did something with him, we know he would never intentionally hurt his son. So it is easier to believe. I mean, what would you rather believe, that his dad had him or a stranger? If it was his dad, at least he would care about his son. It’s better than the alternative. And it’s a choice. Mark is doing the same thing. He blames Elaine because it’s easier than thinking a stranger has him.
“If Dylan was dead, that would be awful and we would all grieve and mourn. But for him to be missing, no one wants to think of what the possibilities could be, or what could be happening to him. It’s just horrible what runs through your mind. Blaming someone makes it easier.”
 
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'''I don’t want to speculate, but my family is at the point where they would rather feel that the father did something because if Mark did something with him, we know he would never intentionally hurt his son. So it is easier to believe. I mean, what would you rather believe, that his dad had him or a stranger? If it was his dad, at least he would care about his son. It’s better than the alternative. And it’s a choice'''
http://www.dailyastorian.com/news/l...cle_bdc42cde-708c-11e2-9730-0019bb2963f4.html

Many of us have speculated this point. So now we know or at least according to ER's sister, now we know !
 
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'''I don’t want to speculate, but my family is at the point where they would rather feel that the father did something because if Mark did something with him, we know he would never intentionally hurt his son. So it is easier to believe. I mean, what would you rather believe, that his dad had him or a stranger? If it was his dad, at least he would care about his son. It’s better than the alternative. And it’s a choice'''
http://www.dailyastorian.com/news/l...cle_bdc42cde-708c-11e2-9730-0019bb2963f4.html

Many of us have speculated this point. So now we know or at least according to ER's sister, now we know !

I am not sure as to what is it that we know? The woman admits its a pretty much wishful thinking on family's part. They prefer to think MR hid him somewhere rather than the alternative.
 
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http://www.dailyastorian.com/news/local/local-woman-hopes-for-nephew-s-safe-return/article_bdc42cde-708c-11e2-9730-0019bb2963f4.html

Dylan's aunt comments about Dylan. Interesting thing that is said is that it was Dylan's scent in the lake at the dam.

JMO, MOO and all that JAZZ

Very good find thanks, also the end of the sentence is intriguing....

"The website reports that two cadaver dogs, separately caught Dylan Redwine’s scent from a boat off a dam".
 
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Actually, no. We don't know if MR changed his story. The story about Dylan being tired was originally told by MR's friend, not MR himself. We also don't know what MR told police.

This is just not accurate. In MR's first uncut video, he said:

"....as he indicated to me that he was up til 4:00 the morning before and that he was tired from being in the airport most of the day.."
 
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Very good find thanks, also the end of the sentence is intriguing....

"The website reports that two cadaver dogs, separately caught Dylan Redwine’s scent from a boat off a dam".

Again, cadaver dogs don't catch any person's scent. They hit on a scent of decomposition. They are supposed to hit on human remains. Any human's.
Not specific human's.
"Cadaver dogs are trained to ignore live human scent and animal scent, and only indicate on human remains. These dogs can be used to find human remains related to crime scenes, missing persons cases and forensic evidence related to decomposing human remains."
http://www.illinoissearchdogs.org/capabilities/cadaver_dogs.shtml
 
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This is just not accurate. In MR's first uncut video, he said:

"....as he indicated to me that he was up til 4:00 the morning before and that he was tired from being in the airport most of the day.."

What is not accurate, exactly? Originally that story was told by MR's friend. MR wasn't talking to the press at the beginning.
 
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