CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #33

[Eileen730]

Bingo

This is why they have called him out. He keeps pretending like he is doing his best and he is doing this and that to help when clearly he is not .

So call him out and watch him crawl back under his rock. Mike Hall has even called his bluff and is willing to contact his work and pay his missed wages . He then has no excuses on why he cant do this but he still wont as he has something to hide :cow:


For all Mark knows 3 weeks could be the difference between life and death for Dylan . The fact he wants to do it in 3 weeks is beyond a joke.

Im telling you this guy gives me the heebie geebies!
And im so glad they did call his bluff and id bet my last penny he wont do this TV show! JMO

 

[Eileen730]

In your opinion. I know many 13-14 year-olds who may be well intentioned, but they aren't always conscientious when it comes to things like responding to texts, leaving notes, etc. Maybe Dylan would have sent him a text to let him know, but MR doesn't seem to believe it's unthinkable that he might forget. MOO

I do not agree with this!
Most parents get Phones for their kids to keep in contact.
Just about every parent i know will take or have that phone turned off if they do not ans a text or a call from mom or dad. these are usually the rules to follow when mom or dad gives you a cell phone. JMO

 

[SCHMAE]

I just don't believe that Mark could have pulled off the perfect disappearance of his child. Not and still been in town, and not leaving any kind of physical evidence around.

Do you know how hard and impossible that would have to be? Enron if he planned it in advance, he wouldn't have been able to control Dyan's texting and the electronic pings of his and Dylan's phones. Or take a chance that random people or cameras wouldn't have caught him in the act.

And NO forensic evidence of a crime whatsoever. Professional criminals aren't always that good, that's why they get caught. There would need to be some kind of slip up or indicator left someplace. IMO, JMO, MOO

Agreed ! As much as he seems suspicious I have said for weeks, I just don't know if he's that slick !

 

[Eileen730]

Agreed ! As much as he seems suspicious I have said for weeks, I just don't know if he's that slick !

It dosent take smarts!

and hes slick all righty!

 

[The Cheese]

Well it's actually pretty easy. Think Elizabeth Smart. She was in public all the time, yes with her face covered, but she could have run any time. They control with fear. Once Dylan is under their control for 2 months time, they can easily have him brainwashed into believe things like ' i 'll kill ur family / friends etc if you ever run off ' . I'm hoping that is not the case, but these sickos are pretty crafty at gaining control !

Also Steven Stayner. He was abducted at 7 yrs, and held until he was Dylan's age - 14. During that time, his abductor sent him to school - for years.

He had contact with all those adults at school for *years* - teachers, administration, school nurses, school counselors, parents of other children, other school workers such as maintenance personnel, lunchroom workers, etc. Never once did he ask an adult for help, tell anyone who he was, etc, or attempt to run away - for years!

(Another thing I have to mention, because it's very important to me -

This is why it's so important to get the flyers and pictures of missing children out to as many people as possible. Never once in all those years at school, seeing all those adults who could have helped him, did any adult recognize Steven. Please give out those flyers! Not just of Dylan, but of all 2,500 children who are missing at any given time in the U.S.)

 

[SCHMAE]

Bingo

This is why they have called him out. He keeps pretending like he is doing his best and he is doing this and that to help when clearly he is not .

So call him out and watch him crawl back under his rock. Mike Hall has even called his bluff and is willing to contact his work and pay his missed wages . He then has no excuses on why he cant do this but he still wont as he has something to hide :cow:


For all Mark knows 3 weeks could be the difference between life and death for Dylan . The fact he wants to do it in 3 weeks is beyond a joke.

UGH!~
Yes 3 weeks is a head scratcher. I keep trying for whatever reason to put MR aside in my mind as a player in this and then something like 3 weeks, or a nap , or x y or z come up and then I don't know what I think.
Note to MR ,,,,, DUDE ,,,,,,what the heck is your deal. Your actions do not match your words. Say something different or DO something different or you 'll always be in the hot seat ! Three weeks? There is no urgency if you want to wait 3 weeks. Why no urgency ? What will be different in 3 weeks time? One thing is some of the new awareness might quiet down and you can go on back to whatever you were doing and perhaps folks will forget . Come on man ! I'm trying to look at other options for Dylans' whereabouts but you're making it soooooooo hard !

 

[Eileen730]

It's not the same thing at all, imo. Elaine assumed he was having fun with his friends because she assumed that her ex had made certain he was safely dropped off with them. If she had known that MR left at 7:30 and never heard another peep from him, had no clue where he was or what he was doing, but just took a nap and decided to check on him later----she would have flipped.

:furious: No wonder she is still angry.

Another thing is he never sent her a TEXT or called her to see if she had heard from Dylan. This is not Elaines fault.
He comes home son is gone all his things are gone he decides to take a nap!

 

[The Cheese]

Another thing is he never sent her a TEXT or called her to see if she had heard from Dylan. This is not Elaines fault.
He comes home son is gone all his things are gone he decides to take a nap!

bold is mine -

Elaine has said several times that Mark did send her a text asking her if she had heard from Dylan.

If I texted one of my kids when they were Dylan's age, and I didn't hear back from them, I wouldn't just go to bed as I assume Elaine did. I'd contact my ex-spouse. I just could not sleep until I knew my child was safe.

The next morning, Elaine texted Dylan again. He didn't respond. I wouldn't have just gone to work or stayed at work and done nothing - I'd have contacted my ex-spouse. I can't imagine letting it go until the next day, and I can't imagine not trying to find out where my child was and what he was doing.

There's also that report that even after Mark texted Elaine and asked her if she had heard from Dylan, she completed her workday before going to Durango, so for sure, she wasn't worried about Dylan's status. I can't imagine calling the sheriff because my child was missing, and then finishing out my work day before I went looking for him.

The norm for Dylan from both his parents was not to hold him accountable, not to look for him. Also see Elaine on NG 12/3 where she says Dylan would just text her at night to tell her where he landed for the night. She also says he didn't always text her at night.

Dylan was let to be footloose and fancy free by the parent he spent most of his time with - Elaine - and possibly by his father too. The latter is hard for me to determine though since Elaine and Cory keep saying that Dylan didn't spend much time with Mark in the 3 yrs prior to his disappearance, and there's only the one incident to reference for Mark. That one incident may have been the exception rather than the rule. I don't know yet.

:twocents:

 

[SCHMAE]

Last night or so on the FMDR page a mom whose son has been missing for over 3 yrs commented . It's just heart breaking
I went and read up on her son's case here and I just don't know how she does it.
Hopefully Dylan will not end up the same way .

 

[TxLady2]

Why would an interview with Mark 'make him' look guilty?

Because everything he says already does to a lot of folks and this is what they're counting on.

 

[Eileen730]

bold is mine -

Elaine has said several times that Mark did send her a text asking her if she had heard from Dylan.

If I texted one of my kids when they were Dylan's age, and I didn't hear back from them, I wouldn't just go to bed as I assume Elaine did. I'd contact my ex-spouse. I just could not sleep until I knew my child was safe.

The next morning, Elaine texted Dylan again. He didn't respond. I wouldn't have just gone to work or stayed at work and done nothing - I'd have contacted my ex-spouse. I can't imagine letting it go until the next day, and I can't imagine not trying to find out where my child was and what he was doing.

There's also that report that even after Mark texted Elaine and asked her if she had heard from Dylan, she completed her workday before going to Durango, so for sure, she wasn't worried about Dylan's status. I can't imagine calling the sheriff because my child was missing, and then finishing out my work day before I went looking for him.

The norm for Dylan from both his parents was not to hold him accountable, not to look for him. Also see Elaine on NG 12/3 where she says Dylan would just text her at night to tell her where he landed for the night. She also says he didn't always text her at night.

Dylan was let to be footloose and fancy free by the parent he spent most of his time with - Elaine - and possibly by his father too. The latter is hard for me to determine though since Elaine and Cory keep saying that Dylan didn't spend much time with Mark in the 3 yrs prior to his disappearance, and there's only the one incident to reference for Mark. That one incident may have been the exception rather than the rule. I don't know yet.

:twocents:

He sent her a text asking if she heard from dylan?

And how do you know he was footloose and fancy free by the parent he spent most of his time with?

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I know he sent her a text saying their son was missing!
She sent Dylan a text Sunday and on Monday I have never heard her say MR sent her a text wondering where D was that day prior to the missing text!

 

[TxLady2]

I don't see these as inconsistencies. I think he is just wording the events of the morning differently in each account. He is still saying the same thing. He tried to wake Dylan up and he didn't want to get up.

I think if he worded everything with the exact same phrase, every time someone different ask him about the events of the morning, it would be more suspicious, like it was rehearsed.

Bingo!! You nailed it.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico...que/-/9153728/18459516/-/jmui7qz/-/index.html

^they might have the dogs out searching as early as tomorrow morning!^

Mark met with K9 group yesterday.

Very good news. (3 border collies that are HRD dogs and 1 tracking dog)

 

[The Cheese]

He sent her a text asking if she heard from dylan?

Yes. This has been reported a number of times, and Elaine has talked about it herself multiple times, since the beginning of this case, and Mark has talked about it. I'm not sure how you missed that - it's been in so many articles, the NG transcripts, interview videos, and quotes from them posted here etc.

Anyway, here's one of the earliest ones - NG from 12/3, direct from Elaine -

REDWINE: Well, his dad texted me at around, oh, 4:30. Maybe it was closer to 5:00 on Monday. And I texted him back. You know, it was like, Well, we should call the sheriff. So I went ahead and I actually called the sheriff that day. I don`t know if Mark had called the sheriff that day, either, but I called the sheriff right after I got the text from Mark.

I went to my house, picked up a bag, grabbed my oldest son, Corey (ph), and we came to Durango.

GRACE: What were his words when the dad told you he couldn`t find Dylan?

REDWINE: He asked me if I had heard from Dylan. And I told him it was -- you know, it was discerning (sic) to me that I was, you know, six hours away, and he was asking me that question.

 

[Eileen730]

Because everything he says already does to a lot of folks and this is what they're counting on.

Oh I dont think so Tx!
After his last uncut video alot of ppl climed back on the fence.
He needs to get out there humanize himself a tad.

If hes innnocent he needs someone to help him out and kind of tell him what needs doing. silence isnt always golden!

 

[Eileen730]

Yes. This has been reported a number of times, and Elaine has talked about it herself multiple times, since the beginning of this case, and Mark has talked about it. I'm not sure how you missed that - it's been in so many articles, the NG transcripts, interview videos, and quotes from them posted here etc.

Anyway, here's one of the earliest ones - NG from 12/3, direct from Elaine -

REDWINE: Well, his dad texted me at around, oh, 4:30. Maybe it was closer to 5:00 on Monday. And I texted him back. You know, it was like, Well, we should call the sheriff. So I went ahead and I actually called the sheriff that day. I don`t know if Mark had called the sheriff that day, either, but I called the sheriff right after I got the text from Mark.

I went to my house, picked up a bag, grabbed my oldest son, Corey (ph), and we came to Durango.

GRACE: What were his words when the dad told you he couldn`t find Dylan?

REDWINE: He asked me if I had heard from Dylan. And I told him it was -- you know, it was discerning (sic) to me that I was, you know, six hours away, and he was asking me that question.

Im talking about when he comes home at 11 30 and finds Dylan gone why didnt he send Elaine a text asking if she had heard from him and knew where he was?
He takes a nap instead!

then calls her at 5 and tells her hes missing have you heard from him it was a little late dont you agree?

 

[SuperMom1995]

Whats with the three weeks?
Your sons missing he cant wait 3 weeks

See, he either knows that he is totally safe or departed because I see no urgency on his part to look for him.

 

[nursebeeme]

Oh I dont think so Tx!
After his last uncut video alot of ppl climed back on the fence.
He needs to get out there humanize himself a tad.

If hes innnocent he needs someone to help him out and kind of tell him what needs doing. silence isnt always golden!

I am glad he is doing something to find Dylan and the search starts tomorrow.

(see video link)

It will be great to see "active search" on this thread again:rocker:

 

[Eileen730]

Because everything he says already does to a lot of folks and this is what they're counting on.

Ya know there is always the chance hes not Innocent!

Why cant they rule him out?
thats my big question!

 

[jjenny]

I am a girl so i think girls do generally get treated differently than boys (in my family and my school and so forth) - at 13 i was a lot more restricted in what i was allowed to do then the boys. They seemed to have more freedom .

But even so i am amazed that Mark could go to sleep and not have any concerns about the son he had arranged to meet at home and the son he could not get hold of. For all he knew Dylan could of been hurt somewhere .

Yes, the previous reports led me to believe that he was texting Dylan after he came home and didn't find him. Then, after he didn't hear back, he went looking for him. Now we find out he was napping after coming home. Even though Dylan didn't respond to his texts and was not at home when he showed up. And all of Dylan's belongings were missing.