CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #34

[SCHMAE]

ABC Radio interview at first, I believe about 8-9 days after Dylan went missing. MSM picked up the story after that.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-boys-mother-suspects-husband-sons-disappearance/story?id=17813458

Just found it. Nov. 26th.

TY BEC, you're a rock star ! I wanted to know because so many comments have been saying things like ' ER was accusing him right from the get go'' and I was thinking that was not so. EIGHT DAYS is a very long time for a child to be missing and to be trying to text the person RESPONSIBLE for that child for over a week with no feedback SHOULD infuriate anyone. So it's after this time he fell into victim mode and ER just wont' stop harassing him ?
MOOOOOOOOOO and a very ugly MOOOOOOO at that.

Do we have any idea if there has been any communication between MR and ER after the day DR went missing? He txt her to ask if she knows where he is then they both call or visit a LE office and did they ever speak again ?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I am hoping that the Dr. Phil has agreed to move the taping to three weeks from now. Considering that the family was notified about being on the show, a little more than a week before it was scheduled to tape, it makes me think that the show does not have all their episodes planned out that far in advance.

But I am thinking that it is probably a good thing if both parents appear on the show. If it's just Elaine on the show, I am sure she will speak her opinion about Mark being involved, and Dr. Phil will tell the audience about how Mark didn't agree to be on the show, making him look very bad.

I was reading the original post on the FMDR page and it says: "They (The show) has contacted him (Mark) repeatedly"....Um, how would they know that?

 

[rebeccaeee]

TY BEC, you're a rock star ! I wanted to know because so many comments have been saying things like ' ER was accusing him right from the get go'' and I was thinking that was not so. EIGHT DAYS is a very long time for a child to be missing and to be trying to text the person RESPONSIBLE for that child for over a week with no feedback SHOULD infuriate anyone. So it's after this time he fell into victim mode and ER just wont' stop harassing him ?
MOOOOOOOOOO and a very ugly MOOOOOOO at that.

Do we have any idea if there has been any communication between MR and ER after the day DR went missing? He txt her to ask if she knows where he is then they both call or visit a LE office and did they ever speak again ?

I just went and double checked the FMDR page from November to make sure. The 26th was the day after the big searches of the 24-25 and the lake search and alot of local media. From what i recollect, MR had not been speaking much to ER or CR though he did talk to CR at the first vigil. I think ER was probably tired of waiting and finally spoke about what she''d been thnking from day one. To her enormous credit, it took 8 days to publicly accuse him and, back then, she didn't mean he was hiding Dylan. She clearly believed he was capable of harming him, IMO. I go back to that time and again.

 

[Eileen730]

I am hoping that the Dr. Phil has agreed to move the taping to three weeks from now. Considering that the family was notified about being on the show, a little more than a week before it was scheduled to tape, it makes me think that the show does not have all their episodes planned out that far in advance.

But I am thinking that it is probably a good thing if both parents appear on the show. If it's just Elaine on the show, I am sure she will speak her opinion about Mark being involved, and Dr. Phil will tell the audience about how Mark didn't agree to be on the show, making him look very bad.

I was reading the original post on the FMDR page and it says: "They (The show) has contacted him (Mark) repeatedly"....Um, how would they know that?

I cant see waiting 3 weeks to find your missing child.
If you have to go to work im sure work would give you 2 days off and there is someone out there that will fly him back and forth.
I dont understand the three week wait!

 

[SCHMAE]

I just went and double checked the FMDR page from November to make sure. The 26th was the day after the big searches of the 24-25 and the lake search and alot of local media. From what i recollect, MR had not been speaking much to ER or CR though he did talk to CR at the first vigil. I think ER was probably tired of waiting and finally spoke about what she''d been thnking from day one. To her enormous credit, it took 8 days to publicly accuse him and, back then, she didn't mean he was hiding Dylan. She clearly believed he was capable of harming him, IMO. I go back to that time and again.

Right ! Nowhere near ' from the start, from the get go, or right off the bat ' . If I couldn't reach whatever person within say 12 or 24 hrs who was last seen with MY CHILD, I would be accusing them on the 25th hour , bank on it !

 

[SCHMAE]

But Mark says Dylan was using his phone!

And I believe also he knows Dylans Fate!

Are we allowed to reach out to someone to join WS, say a
body language certified expert ? Man, wouldn't that be great?
Or even maybe we ask one to look at the tape and just
are able to discuss their findings.

 

[Eileen730]

I just went and double checked the FMDR page from November to make sure. The 26th was the day after the big searches of the 24-25 and the lake search and alot of local media. From what i recollect, MR had not been speaking much to ER or CR though he did talk to CR at the first vigil. I think ER was probably tired of waiting and finally spoke about what she''d been thnking from day one. To her enormous credit, it took 8 days to publicly accuse him and, back then, she didn't mean he was hiding Dylan. She clearly believed he was capable of harming him, IMO. I go back to that time and again.

I honestly think she thought MR went and hid him like he had done before but after LE was involved and he didnt produce Dylan I think she felt something horrible happend. The no activity on the cell phone didnt help matters any. There are so many red flags here its sad!

JMO

 

[Confusion]

Can anyone explain what an over the road driver is? I haven't heard that term before so am guessing we call it something different here. TIA

I didn't see anyone answer this, sorry if I'm just repeating something. An over the road driver is one who doesn't go home each night after making deliveries. They do long distance driving, and are normally gone for days, or weeks, at a time. What usually happens is that they'll drive a load to one destination, pick up another load there or as nearby as possible, deliver that one, and get another, etc. They get time off when they get a load that is delivered close to home, or they don't have a new load to pick up (sometimes their time off isn't at home, it can be 1000 miles away so they don't waste miles driving with an empty truck.)

Honestly I'm perplexed by about half the stuff he did mention and equally perplexed by a lot of the stuff he did NOT mention that seems so much more important. I just find wandering aimlessly to be an odd thing to do when you're so tired. More like I dozed off on the couch mid movie seems like what super tired folks would do, but who can say ,eh ?

I'm one of those people, and I know several others, who tend to do things like that when tired. It drives me nuts when someone else does it, but I do it at times because I know I'll fall asleep if I sit still for too long. I'd just feel rude if I had company and fell asleep while they were sitting there. MOO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I cant see waiting 3 weeks to find your missing child.
If you have to go to work im sure work would give you 2 days off and there is someone out there that will fly him back and forth.
I dont understand the three week wait!

I guess MR doesn't see any need for urgency in getting his son's name and face out to millions.

Kind of odd considering he thought Dylan was abducted and taken out of the area.

 

[Eileen730]

I guess MR doesn't see any need for urgency in getting his son's name and face out to millions.

Kind of odd considering he thought Dylan was abducted and taken out of the area.

I have thought that from day one!
But whats with the three weeks?
Are you not really really curious?


Where is MR going for 3 weeks and if he is going somewhere i sure hope hes being followed.

 

[absentia]

Maybe in a fit of panic and confusion MR smashed the phone to keep it from ringing . I'm concerned by MR saying he was up pacing around the house just before being so tired he ran up to go to bed. Pacing around seems like someone 's whose trying to think things through in a confused/ panicky state......... like after something horrible or unexpected happens and you say " ive got to think , think, what to do '' Speculative !

yah, the comment about "pacing" was disturbing. so much was disturbing it's hard to put it all in one post. strange choice of words. could have used "puttering" or something. Pacing suggests tension or pensiveness at the least. If not anguish.

 

[Seajay]

TY BEC, you're a rock star ! I wanted to know because so many comments have been saying things like ' ER was accusing him right from the get go'' and I was thinking that was not so. EIGHT DAYS is a very long time for a child to be missing

<snipped for space> When was her first public interview? When was the first time she spoke in public??? To my knowledge, when she was on GMA on ABC, this was her first public interview. Was there one before this where she DIDN'T accuse Mark of having done something to Dylan???

Because if that's the case, even if her first public interview wasn't until 8 days after Dylan's disappearance, then it doesn't change that her first public appearance about it she "started accusing him right from the get go." KWIM?

 

[absentia]

Im sure he loved him.
I dont think this has anything to do with love.
Hes taken and hid the kids before.
I think this man wanted one of his kids to maybe be with him. That left Dylan the only one he could controll because hes 13.
Dylan wanted his friends not dad.
MR dosent understand sadly kids turn into teenagers and they dont want to be around dad or mom they want their friends.
JMO

I take it to mean that as much as she suspects MR, she can't believe a parent could harm a child and she has said she can't believe she chose so wrong (to parent with MR). It doesn't mean she doesn't think he did anything, it means she can't believe a parent who loves their child could hurt that child, and she doesn't believe her own choice in having kids with MR could be so wrong.

 

[absentia]

<snipped for space> When was her first public interview? When was the first time she spoke in public??? To my knowledge, when she was on GMA on ABC, this was her first public interview. Was there one before this where she DIDN'T accuse Mark of having done something to Dylan???

Because if that's the case, even if her first public interview wasn't until 8 days after Dylan's disappearance, then it doesn't change that her first public appearance about it she "started accusing him right from the get go." KWIM?

well, after 8 days of no response to texts and phone calls (having been the last one to see DR alive), I'd call out someone on live TV if it were my only chance of communicating with them too. I may even bait them with an accusation or something to get them to respond.

 

[Seajay]

Um guys, we are not allowed to discuss what is on FMDR. We are allowed to link.

 

[Eileen730]

I didn't see anyone answer this, sorry if I'm just repeating something. An over the road driver is one who doesn't go home each night after making deliveries. They do long distance driving, and are normally gone for days, or weeks, at a time. What usually happens is that they'll drive a load to one destination, pick up another load there or as nearby as possible, deliver that one, and get another, etc. They get time off when they get a load that is delivered close to home, or they don't have a new load to pick up (sometimes their time off isn't at home, it can be 1000 miles away so they don't waste miles driving with an empty truck.)



I'm one of those people, and I know several others, who tend to do things like that when tired. It drives me nuts when someone else does it, but I do it at times because I know I'll fall asleep if I sit still for too long. I'd just feel rude if I had company and fell asleep while they were sitting there. MOO

To answer the question, the average over the road truck driver can expect to make $875-$1050 gross per week. To make this kind of money, a truck driver can expect to be away from home for most of the month with only 2-4 days spent at home. This leaves a truck driver alone in his truck or at truck stops for the majority of his down time and 34 hour restarts. In a perfect world, the truck driver would be able to make it home for his 34 hour restarts but due to load demand it is not usually possible

 

[Eileen730]

Um guys, we are not allowed to discuss what is on FMDR. We are allowed to link.

I thought you can paraphrase and link! but not copy and paste.

 

[absentia]

Honestly I'm perplexed by about half the stuff he did mention and equally perplexed by a lot of the stuff he did NOT mention that seems so much more important. I just find wandering aimlessly to be an odd thing to do when you're so tired. More like I dozed off on the couch mid movie seems like what super tired folks would do, but who can say ,eh ?

he said "pacing" and then he qualified it by saying - cleaning up dishes etc. I think he realized it sounded bad. and if he did, it's probably b/c it WAS bad. IMO.

 

[mck16]

well, after 8 days of no response to texts and phone calls (having been the last one to see DR alive), I'd call out someone on live TV if it were my only chance of communicating with them too. I may even bait them with an accusation or something to get them to respond.

I am not sure what difference it makes if she did it after one day or 15 days. The bothersome thing to me is that she did it at all. jmo

 

[azgrandma]

I keep going back to that, how could he have pulled off the near-perfect crime?? No video, no witnesses, no forensic evidence. Nothing. He's not a suspect and he's fully cooperating with LE. You would think if he did this, he'd stay as far away from LE as possible and make excuses for not going in and answering their questions. If he did this, you would think he would be shaking in his boots that he was going to slip up to LE. They are professionals. They see right through things. They had FBI interrogators on this case. CBI as well. How could he circumvent all that training and knowledge??

BBM - there is forensic evidence, in MSM LE said that they were waiting for items back from FBI, they later said that after they received information from the evidence, they were re-grouping to determine their next strategy. Just because LE isn't giving the public a detailed list of the forensic evidence (which they would not do in the first place) does not mean that they is nothing.

In regards to "fully cooperating with LE" IIRC LE said he was "cooperating" not fully cooperating. Big difference.

In regards to making excuses, about two weeks ago IIRC MR said that he would take another LDT, has he? If so, I would believe the MSM would be on top of that in a heartbeat.

MR says a lot, MR does very little of what he says.